On 8 Feb 2005 09:41:30 -0800, wrote:

My friend Karen wrote:

Yep I agree; sod off Chuckster:-) You've even spun this anti OT
thread
to politics you sad sack of rotting barnacles.

You only make OT posts or deceptive marketing spam anyway so do

yourself & us a favour hey???


I notice you couldn't choose between admitting you're a total
boating
incompetent or just bent; so hey you chose both!!!:-)


K


*********

Oh heck.

Here I was thinking about taking another sabbatical, but you and your
fellow poison pen, (Hurtwit the Hypocrite) have now made that
impossible.

As you are both ordering me out of the group, I guess I better stick
around rather than appear to comply with your demands. I'll see if I
can increase my product reviews, etc, just especially for you. :-)

You criticize my contributions. I'll proudly compare them to yours or
Hurtwit the Hypocrite's any day. When was the last time you posted
anything that was not a long personal attack, on somebody, disguised as
a disagreement about a technical point?

Hurtwit the Hypocrite at least has the integrity to avoid any pretense
that he is capable of discussing boats or boating, or that he is here
to do anything except behave in a destructive manner,,,,(and has
admitted the same).

You're a joke, Smith. A very sick joke. You can't make a post about
anyting without turning 2/3 of it into a harangue on Harry Krause- and
then you have the balls
(you probably do) to complain that people post OT. When was the last
time you contributed anything to the group except spite, insult, and
bile? How many years, and years, and years has it been?

Chuck, how would you rate the 260 Defiance against a 26' Osprey or a 27' Sea
Sport? (Or the 24' Sea Sport, for that matter.)

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

John,
Boating articles might pretend to compare boats, but they really are just a
vehicle to sell advertising. You will never find a reviewer who will give
you a real comparison between boats.


"John H" wrote in message
...
On 8 Feb 2005 09:41:30 -0800, wrote:

My friend Karen wrote:

Yep I agree; sod off Chuckster:-) You've even spun this anti OT
thread
to politics you sad sack of rotting barnacles.

You only make OT posts or deceptive marketing spam anyway so do

yourself & us a favour hey???


I notice you couldn't choose between admitting you're a total
boating
incompetent or just bent; so hey you chose both!!!:-)


K


*********

Oh heck.

Here I was thinking about taking another sabbatical, but you and your
fellow poison pen, (Hurtwit the Hypocrite) have now made that
impossible.

As you are both ordering me out of the group, I guess I better stick
around rather than appear to comply with your demands. I'll see if I
can increase my product reviews, etc, just especially for you. :-)

You criticize my contributions. I'll proudly compare them to yours or
Hurtwit the Hypocrite's any day. When was the last time you posted
anything that was not a long personal attack, on somebody, disguised as
a disagreement about a technical point?

Hurtwit the Hypocrite at least has the integrity to avoid any pretense
that he is capable of discussing boats or boating, or that he is here
to do anything except behave in a destructive manner,,,,(and has
admitted the same).

You're a joke, Smith. A very sick joke. You can't make a post about
anyting without turning 2/3 of it into a harangue on Harry Krause- and
then you have the balls
(you probably do) to complain that people post OT. When was the last
time you contributed anything to the group except spite, insult, and
bile? How many years, and years, and years has it been?

Chuck, how would you rate the 260 Defiance against a 26' Osprey or a 27'
Sea
Sport? (Or the 24' Sea Sport, for that matter.)

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes

"Dr. Karen Grear MD, PHD" wrote in message
...
John,
Boating articles might pretend to compare boats, but they really are just
a vehicle to sell advertising. You will never find a reviewer who will
give you a real comparison between boats.


Nor an honest appraisal of the boat being reviewed.

They will give you an honest appraisal of everything they liked, they just
will never say anything negative about a boat, even when there are many
negatives.




"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Dr. Karen Grear MD, PHD" wrote in message
...
John,
Boating articles might pretend to compare boats, but they really are just
a vehicle to sell advertising. You will never find a reviewer who will
give you a real comparison between boats.


Nor an honest appraisal of the boat being reviewed.

Doc,
Try Powerboat Reports. No advertisement. www.powerboat-reports.com
Paul


Dr. Karen Grear MD, PHD wrote:
John,
Boating articles might pretend to compare boats, but they really are just a
vehicle to sell advertising. You will never find a reviewer who will give
you a real comparison between boats.


"John H" wrote in message
...

On 8 Feb 2005 09:41:30 -0800, wrote:


My friend Karen wrote:

Yep I agree; sod off Chuckster:-) You've even spun this anti OT
thread
to politics you sad sack of rotting barnacles.

You only make OT posts or deceptive marketing spam anyway so do

yourself & us a favour hey???


I notice you couldn't choose between admitting you're a total
boating
incompetent or just bent; so hey you chose both!!!:-)


K


*********

Oh heck.

Here I was thinking about taking another sabbatical, but you and your
fellow poison pen, (Hurtwit the Hypocrite) have now made that
impossible.

As you are both ordering me out of the group, I guess I better stick
around rather than appear to comply with your demands. I'll see if I
can increase my product reviews, etc, just especially for you. :-)

You criticize my contributions. I'll proudly compare them to yours or
Hurtwit the Hypocrite's any day. When was the last time you posted
anything that was not a long personal attack, on somebody, disguised as
a disagreement about a technical point?

Hurtwit the Hypocrite at least has the integrity to avoid any pretense
that he is capable of discussing boats or boating, or that he is here
to do anything except behave in a destructive manner,,,,(and has
admitted the same).

You're a joke, Smith. A very sick joke. You can't make a post about
anyting without turning 2/3 of it into a harangue on Harry Krause- and
then you have the balls
(you probably do) to complain that people post OT. When was the last
time you contributed anything to the group except spite, insult, and
bile? How many years, and years, and years has it been?

Chuck, how would you rate the 260 Defiance against a 26' Osprey or a 27'
Sea
Sport? (Or the 24' Sea Sport, for that matter.)

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Chuck, how would you rate the 260 Defiance against a 26' Osprey or a
27' Sea
Sport? (Or the 24' Sea Sport, for that matter.)

****************************

I wouldn't.

To make an accurate comparison you'd need to do a side-by side test on
the same day, under the same conditions, and rigged with similar or
identical engines. The most significant portion of a comparison that is
extremely subjective, (therefore subject to a variety of personal
opinions), is the degree of satisfaction with performance and handling
and the "feel" of the boat underway. Other subjective things are
ergonomics, overall appearance, etc....and reasonable people will come
to different conclusions, (explaining why so many different brands of
boats sell well).

Most of the objective differences will be outlined in the factory
specs.

As far as the subjective impressions and opinions go, consider me like
Faux News, John. I report- you decide. :-)

That is a great answer. That way you will never **** out any advertisers.


wrote in message
ups.com...
Chuck, how would you rate the 260 Defiance against a 26' Osprey or a
27' Sea
Sport? (Or the 24' Sea Sport, for that matter.)

****************************

I wouldn't.

To make an accurate comparison you'd need to do a side-by side test on
the same day, under the same conditions, and rigged with similar or
identical engines. The most significant portion of a comparison that is
extremely subjective, (therefore subject to a variety of personal
opinions), is the degree of satisfaction with performance and handling
and the "feel" of the boat underway. Other subjective things are
ergonomics, overall appearance, etc....and reasonable people will come
to different conclusions, (explaining why so many different brands of
boats sell well).

Most of the objective differences will be outlined in the factory
specs.

As far as the subjective impressions and opinions go, consider me like
Faux News, John. I report- you decide. :-)

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 19:32:05 -0500, "Dr. Karen Grear MD, PHD"
wrote:

That is a great answer. That way you will never **** out any advertisers.




**** out???

"Dr. Karen Grear MD, PHD" wrote in message
...
That is a great answer. That way you will never **** out any advertisers.




Indeed.

Powerboat Report has no problem outlining weaknesses as well as
positives....no need for advertising money with them.

The rest of the reviews in so called boating magazines are nothing more than
fluff...such as the one Chuck posted here in an attempt to spam a boat line
and boat dealer.

I wonder how he used the money he received from both for that review?

A new car perhaps? Or maybe a brand new electronics setup for his tug.

Only the shadow knows.

Most people who write those fluff pieces will readily admit they are fluff.
The articles are designed to sell ad space, not inform the boat buying
public or provide a viable review of any boat.




"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Dr. Karen Grear MD, PHD" wrote in message
...
That is a great answer. That way you will never **** out any
advertisers.




Indeed.

Powerboat Report has no problem outlining weaknesses as well as
positives....no need for advertising money with them.

The rest of the reviews in so called boating magazines are nothing more
than fluff...such as the one Chuck posted here in an attempt to spam a
boat line and boat dealer.

I wonder how he used the money he received from both for that review?

A new car perhaps? Or maybe a brand new electronics setup for his tug.

Only the shadow knows.