"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"P.Fritz" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
...
P.Fritz wrote:
Where the hell do people get ideas like that.......a secondary holder
has all the same obligations of the note....they cannot change that.

Where hell do people get ideas like that?

A mortgage buyer has no obligation whatever to the mortagee. His
contract is with the mortgage initiator. How do you think Fannie,
Ginnie, and Freddie stay in business?

In most states, they *do* have the legal obligation to tell you before
they change the terms of your mortgage. But they don't have any
obligation to stick to the original terms. Happens every day.

You're absolutely wrong. Purchasing a contract doesn't absolve the
buyer of the contract from the responsibilties that are spelled out in
the contract. When an assignment of mortgage takes place, the secondary
lender is on the hook for all of the terms of the original mortgage.
Period.

No ****, if that were true, a secondary buyer could change the interest
rate, payment due date, prepayemnt clause etc etc.

The fact is the mortagee has a contract, those terms cannot be altered by
a third party.


The rules apply whenever there's a contract. A mortgage is a contract.
My lease is a contract. When I leased my office space, I knew that there
was the likely scenario of the landlord selling it to another party. I
contacted an attorney to ensure that the new landlord couldn't buy the
building, terminate my lease, and toss me out. They can't. They must
honor the contract/lease, or provide compensation to me if they need to
alter the terms of the lease in any way.

I know of one dentist who had 4 years remaining on a lease in a building
that was sold and scheduled to be torn down. He got nearly $200k from the
building's new owner to move out of his lease space...AND sufficient time
to find a new location, build it out, and move into it.

There was an old building on a prime corner around here, a developer
bought the surrounding parcels and the building, built a nice new strip
center, but couldn't tear down the old building for several years becasue a
pizza place and a long lease.....they had orginally tried to strong arm the
guy, and when that didn't work, tried to buy him out.....at that point he
was so P.O. he basically said **** em and stayed for the remainder of his
lease.

"P.Fritz" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
...
P.Fritz wrote:
Where the hell do people get ideas like that.......a secondary holder
has all the same obligations of the note....they cannot change that.

Where hell do people get ideas like that?

A mortgage buyer has no obligation whatever to the mortagee. His
contract is with the mortgage initiator. How do you think Fannie,
Ginnie, and Freddie stay in business?

In most states, they *do* have the legal obligation to tell you before
they change the terms of your mortgage. But they don't have any
obligation to stick to the original terms. Happens every day.

You're absolutely wrong. Purchasing a contract doesn't absolve the buyer
of the contract from the responsibilties that are spelled out in the
contract. When an assignment of mortgage takes place, the secondary
lender is on the hook for all of the terms of the original mortgage.
Period.

No ****, if that were true, a secondary buyer could change the interest
rate, payment due date, prepayemnt clause etc etc.

The fact is the mortagee has a contract, those terms cannot be altered by
a third party.

When I last refinanced my mortgage it was through a broker who obtained the
money from A. One of the last pieces of paper I signed at closing was that
my mortgage was sold to B. Then two weeks later my mortgage was sold to the
the company I obtained the initial mortgage from when I bought the house.

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"P.Fritz" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
...
P.Fritz wrote:
Where the hell do people get ideas like that.......a secondary
holder
has all the same obligations of the note....they cannot change that.

Where hell do people get ideas like that?

A mortgage buyer has no obligation whatever to the mortagee. His
contract is with the mortgage initiator. How do you think Fannie,
Ginnie, and Freddie stay in business?

In most states, they *do* have the legal obligation to tell you
before
they change the terms of your mortgage. But they don't have any
obligation to stick to the original terms. Happens every day.

You're absolutely wrong. Purchasing a contract doesn't absolve the
buyer
of the contract from the responsibilties that are spelled out in the
contract. When an assignment of mortgage takes place, the secondary
lender is on the hook for all of the terms of the original mortgage.
Period.

No ****, if that were true, a secondary buyer could change the
interest
rate, payment due date, prepayemnt clause etc etc.

The fact is the mortagee has a contract, those terms cannot be altered
by
a third party.

When I last refinanced my mortgage it was through a broker who obtained
the
money from A. One of the last pieces of paper I signed at closing was
that
my mortgage was sold to B. Then two weeks later my mortgage was sold to
the
the company I obtained the initial mortgage from when I bought the
house.



Not surprising in the mortgage market.......but each 'buyer' was still
bound to the terms of the mortgage contract you signed.

NOYB wrote:
The rules apply whenever there's a contract.

That's a nice theory.

... A mortgage is a contract. My
lease is a contract. When I leased my office space, I knew that there was
the likely scenario of the landlord selling it to another party. I
contacted an attorney to ensure that the new landlord couldn't buy the
building, terminate my lease, and toss me out. They can't.

If that's true, then why did you have to go to an attorney?

This exact scenario happens every day

... They must honor
the contract/lease, or provide compensation to me if they need to alter the
terms of the lease in any way.

Sorry, but it doesn't seem so in light of very common events... at
least, out here in reality...


I know of one dentist who had 4 years remaining on a lease in a building
that was sold and scheduled to be torn down. He got nearly $200k from the
building's new owner to move out of his lease space...AND sufficient time to
find a new location, build it out, and move into it.


Good lawyering. It very often happens that people... and businesses...
get tossed out of their rental space when the building is sold.

Same thing with mortgages. When you get done having a circle jerk with
P. Fritz, try reading the realty section of the newspaper.

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
NOYB wrote:
The rules apply whenever there's a contract.

That's a nice theory.

... A mortgage is a contract. My
lease is a contract. When I leased my office space, I knew that there
was
the likely scenario of the landlord selling it to another party. I
contacted an attorney to ensure that the new landlord couldn't buy the
building, terminate my lease, and toss me out. They can't.

If that's true, then why did you have to go to an attorney?

This exact scenario happens every day

... They must honor
the contract/lease, or provide compensation to me if they need to alter
the
terms of the lease in any way.

Sorry, but it doesn't seem so in light of very common events... at
least, out here in reality...


I know of one dentist who had 4 years remaining on a lease in a building
that was sold and scheduled to be torn down. He got nearly $200k from
the
building's new owner to move out of his lease space...AND sufficient
time to
find a new location, build it out, and move into it.


Good lawyering. It very often happens that people... and businesses...
get tossed out of their rental space when the building is sold.

Same thing with mortgages. When you get done having a circle jerk with
P. Fritz, try reading the realty section of the newspaper.

DSK


Try talking to a real estate attorney. Sure, people are tossed out of
rental space when a building is sold. And they most likely are on a month
to month lease. As to changing the terms of a mortgage, NO WAY! The only
changes will be where you send your money. Otherwise, your loan you signed
would be worthless to you. You are stating they can change the rate, the
payment date, the term of the loan. If this was true, every time the loan
was sold, the new owner would figure he needed more income and would raise
the rate. Fixed Rate Mortgage is just that.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
NOYB wrote:
The rules apply whenever there's a contract.

That's a nice theory.

... A mortgage is a contract. My
lease is a contract. When I leased my office space, I knew that there
was
the likely scenario of the landlord selling it to another party. I
contacted an attorney to ensure that the new landlord couldn't buy the
building, terminate my lease, and toss me out. They can't.

If that's true, then why did you have to go to an attorney?

This exact scenario happens every day

... They must honor
the contract/lease, or provide compensation to me if they need to alter
the
terms of the lease in any way.

Sorry, but it doesn't seem so in light of very common events... at
least, out here in reality...


I know of one dentist who had 4 years remaining on a lease in a
building
that was sold and scheduled to be torn down. He got nearly $200k from
the
building's new owner to move out of his lease space...AND sufficient
time to
find a new location, build it out, and move into it.


Good lawyering. It very often happens that people... and businesses...
get tossed out of their rental space when the building is sold.

Same thing with mortgages. When you get done having a circle jerk with
P. Fritz, try reading the realty section of the newspaper.

DSK


Try talking to a real estate attorney. Sure, people are tossed out of
rental space when a building is sold. And they most likely are on a month
to month lease. As to changing the terms of a mortgage, NO WAY! The only
changes will be where you send your money. Otherwise, your loan you
signed
would be worthless to you. You are stating they can change the rate, the
payment date, the term of the loan. If this was true, every time the loan
was sold, the new owner would figure he needed more income and would raise
the rate. Fixed Rate Mortgage is just that.

Exactly...............I have a client that will 'toss tenants out on the
street' at the end of their lease if they have a better deal on the table,
and will buy others out, if the $$$ are right, but there is no way they
can simply violate the lease. It would not surprise me, that many tenants
violate there lease in many simple ways, that would allow them to be booted.

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
NOYB wrote:
The rules apply whenever there's a contract.

That's a nice theory.

... A mortgage is a contract. My lease is a contract. When I leased my
office space, I knew that there was the likely scenario of the landlord
selling it to another party. I contacted an attorney to ensure that the
new landlord couldn't buy the building, terminate my lease, and toss me
out. They can't.

If that's true, then why did you have to go to an attorney?

Because there are nitwits out there who were trying to tell me that the new
landlord could toss me out when he buys the place.


This exact scenario happens every day

No it doesn't.


... They must honor the contract/lease, or provide compensation to me if
they need to alter the terms of the lease in any way.

Sorry, but it doesn't seem so in light of very common events... at least,
out here in reality...

Which "common events"?



I know of one dentist who had 4 years remaining on a lease in a building
that was sold and scheduled to be torn down. He got nearly $200k from
the building's new owner to move out of his lease space...AND sufficient
time to find a new location, build it out, and move into it.


Good lawyering. It very often happens that people... and businesses... get
tossed out of their rental space when the building is sold.

Not if there's time left on the lease...and certainly not without
compensation.


Same thing with mortgages. When you get done having a circle jerk with P.
Fritz, try reading the realty section of the newspaper.

A mortgage company which receives assignment of the mortgage, cannot rewrite
the terms of the mortgage. They're buying a contract.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
NOYB wrote:
The rules apply whenever there's a contract.

That's a nice theory.

... A mortgage is a contract. My
lease is a contract. When I leased my office space, I knew that there
was
the likely scenario of the landlord selling it to another party. I
contacted an attorney to ensure that the new landlord couldn't buy the
building, terminate my lease, and toss me out. They can't.

If that's true, then why did you have to go to an attorney?

This exact scenario happens every day

... They must honor
the contract/lease, or provide compensation to me if they need to alter
the
terms of the lease in any way.

Sorry, but it doesn't seem so in light of very common events... at
least, out here in reality...


I know of one dentist who had 4 years remaining on a lease in a
building
that was sold and scheduled to be torn down. He got nearly $200k from
the
building's new owner to move out of his lease space...AND sufficient
time to
find a new location, build it out, and move into it.


Good lawyering. It very often happens that people... and businesses...
get tossed out of their rental space when the building is sold.

Same thing with mortgages. When you get done having a circle jerk with
P. Fritz, try reading the realty section of the newspaper.

DSK


Try talking to a real estate attorney. Sure, people are tossed out of
rental space when a building is sold. And they most likely are on a month
to month lease. As to changing the terms of a mortgage, NO WAY! The only
changes will be where you send your money. Otherwise, your loan you
signed
would be worthless to you. You are stating they can change the rate, the
payment date, the term of the loan. If this was true, every time the loan
was sold, the new owner would figure he needed more income and would raise
the rate. Fixed Rate Mortgage is just that.


Exactly!

"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
NOYB wrote:
The rules apply whenever there's a contract.

That's a nice theory.

... A mortgage is a contract. My lease is a contract. When I leased
my office space, I knew that there was the likely scenario of the
landlord selling it to another party. I contacted an attorney to ensure
that the new landlord couldn't buy the building, terminate my lease, and
toss me out. They can't.

If that's true, then why did you have to go to an attorney?

Because there are nitwits out there who were trying to tell me that the
new landlord could toss me out when he buys the place.


This exact scenario happens every day

No it doesn't.


... They must honor the contract/lease, or provide compensation to me
if they need to alter the terms of the lease in any way.

Sorry, but it doesn't seem so in light of very common events... at least,
out here in reality...

Which "common events"?



I know of one dentist who had 4 years remaining on a lease in a building
that was sold and scheduled to be torn down. He got nearly $200k from
the building's new owner to move out of his lease space...AND sufficient
time to find a new location, build it out, and move into it.


Good lawyering. It very often happens that people... and businesses...
get tossed out of their rental space when the building is sold.

Not if there's time left on the lease...and certainly not without
compensation.


Same thing with mortgages. When you get done having a circle jerk with P.
Fritz, try reading the realty section of the newspaper.

A mortgage company which receives assignment of the mortgage, cannot
rewrite the terms of the mortgage. They're buying a contract.

Looks like harry is not the only one wishing to contend for asslicker's
title.

"P.Fritz" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
NOYB wrote:
The rules apply whenever there's a contract.

That's a nice theory.

... A mortgage is a contract. My lease is a contract. When I leased
my office space, I knew that there was the likely scenario of the
landlord selling it to another party. I contacted an attorney to
ensure that the new landlord couldn't buy the building, terminate my
lease, and toss me out. They can't.

If that's true, then why did you have to go to an attorney?

Because there are nitwits out there who were trying to tell me that the
new landlord could toss me out when he buys the place.


This exact scenario happens every day

No it doesn't.


... They must honor the contract/lease, or provide compensation to me
if they need to alter the terms of the lease in any way.

Sorry, but it doesn't seem so in light of very common events... at
least, out here in reality...

Which "common events"?



I know of one dentist who had 4 years remaining on a lease in a
building that was sold and scheduled to be torn down. He got nearly
$200k from the building's new owner to move out of his lease
space...AND sufficient time to find a new location, build it out, and
move into it.


Good lawyering. It very often happens that people... and businesses...
get tossed out of their rental space when the building is sold.

Not if there's time left on the lease...and certainly not without
compensation.


Same thing with mortgages. When you get done having a circle jerk with
P. Fritz, try reading the realty section of the newspaper.

A mortgage company which receives assignment of the mortgage, cannot
rewrite the terms of the mortgage. They're buying a contract.

Looks like harry is not the only one wishing to contend for asslicker's
title.

DSK and Harry aren't stupid like basskisser. DSK is just misinformed...and
Harry knows better, but sometimes enjoys playing Devil's advocate.

"P.Fritz" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
NOYB wrote:
The rules apply whenever there's a contract.

That's a nice theory.

... A mortgage is a contract. My lease is a contract. When I leased
my office space, I knew that there was the likely scenario of the
landlord selling it to another party. I contacted an attorney to
ensure that the new landlord couldn't buy the building, terminate my
lease, and toss me out. They can't.

If that's true, then why did you have to go to an attorney?

Because there are nitwits out there who were trying to tell me that the
new landlord could toss me out when he buys the place.


This exact scenario happens every day

No it doesn't.


... They must honor the contract/lease, or provide compensation to me
if they need to alter the terms of the lease in any way.

Sorry, but it doesn't seem so in light of very common events... at
least, out here in reality...

Which "common events"?



I know of one dentist who had 4 years remaining on a lease in a
building that was sold and scheduled to be torn down. He got nearly
$200k from the building's new owner to move out of his lease
space...AND sufficient time to find a new location, build it out, and
move into it.


Good lawyering. It very often happens that people... and businesses...
get tossed out of their rental space when the building is sold.

Not if there's time left on the lease...and certainly not without
compensation.


Same thing with mortgages. When you get done having a circle jerk with
P. Fritz, try reading the realty section of the newspaper.

A mortgage company which receives assignment of the mortgage, cannot
rewrite the terms of the mortgage. They're buying a contract.

Looks like harry is not the only one wishing to contend for asslicker's
title.







We built our house about 13 years ago. Since then we have refinanced to a
better rate (perhaps 5 or 6 years ago). That mortgage has been sold to 4
different companies to date yet the terms of my mortgage have remained
unchanged. Paul and NOYB are correct. DSK is wrong.

BTW: Why the need for the "circle jerk" insult DSK? Can't you admit when
you are wrong and move on like a man?

JimH wrote:
BTW: Why the need for the "circle jerk" insult DSK?

Because it is a circle jerk. Is the truth an insult?

Notice how the people chiming in to claim I'm wrong are the same
politically motivated losers who are always obsessing about Harry
Krause? No? I wonder why...


... Can't you admit when
you are wrong

Because I'm not wrong.

... and move on like a man?


When you admit that Clinton did a better job running the country than
Bush has done, and move on like whatever it is that you are.

DSK

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I recall some years ago in Providence, RI, a landlord was trying to evict
a clinic of some sort, and ended up having the principal tenant shot.

Yes, that's one way to break a lease. Another way is through just
compensation. One way you *can't* break a lease, is by purchasing a
building and then telling the folks with multi-year leases to vacate the
building ASAP.

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

You think there is NO place else to live in the civilized world except
Naples, FL.

Pretty much.

You think anyone who doesn't exactly tow the line for BushCo is evil.

Yes again.

You think anyone who isn't a republican condones terrorism.

Not every non-Republican condones terrorism. The non-Republicans who don't
condone terrorism, are probably committing terrorism.


You think anyone living outside of you subdivision doesn't deserve a
Naples, FL address.

If you live in Golden Gate Estates, then you don't live in Naples. If
you're from Everglades City or Chokoloskee, then you don't live in Naples.
If when you dial 911 a police car from the Golden Gate Estates Sheriff
sub-station shows up at your door, then you don't live in Naples.


You think that, because you could only afford an interest only loan,
that they are grand, and the best thing ever.

If you live in a rapidly appreciating area, then they *are* the best thing
ever.



So you finally made a post in which you got most of the things that wrote
correct.

You sure are a perceptive little kung fu master.

NOYB wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

You think there is NO place else to live in the civilized world
except
Naples, FL.

Pretty much.

You think anyone who doesn't exactly tow the line for BushCo is
evil.

Yes again.

You think anyone who isn't a republican condones terrorism.

Not every non-Republican condones terrorism. The non-Republicans who
don't
condone terrorism, are probably committing terrorism.


You think anyone living outside of you subdivision doesn't deserve
a
Naples, FL address.

If you live in Golden Gate Estates, then you don't live in Naples.
If
you're from Everglades City or Chokoloskee, then you don't live in
Naples.
If when you dial 911 a a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=police%20car"
onmouseover="window.status='police car'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"police car/a from the
Golden Gate Estates Sheriff
sub-station shows up at your door, then you don't live in Naples.


You think that, because you could only afford an interest only
loan,
that they are grand, and the best thing ever.

If you live in a rapidly appreciating area, then they *are* the best
thing
ever.



So you finally made a post in which you got most of the things that
wrote
correct.

You sure are a perceptive little kung fu master.

Yes, I love it, when you admit ignorance, and then are PROUD of it!
What on earth would make you think that I know anything about Kung Fu?
Or are you again just blinding replying out of ignorance?

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...


Or are you again just blinding replying out of ignorance?

Are you high today? I knew it slurred the speech. But I had no idea that it
also slurred what you type on your keyboard.

NOYB wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...


Or are you again just blinding replying out of ignorance?

Are you high today? I knew it slurred the speech. But I had no idea
that it
also slurred what you type on your keyboard.

Perhaps it's you, NOYB. Are you REALLY so dense that you don't
understand the question?

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...


Or are you again just blinding replying out of ignorance?

Are you high today? I knew it slurred the speech. But I had no idea that
it also slurred what you type on your keyboard.



LMAO.......that is another keeper.

P.Fritz wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...


Or are you again just blinding replying out of ignorance?

Are you high today? I knew it slurred the speech. But I had no
idea that
it also slurred what you type on your keyboard.



LMAO.......that is another keeper.

Are you too dumb to understand the question I asked NOYB? Really?

"NOYB" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


NOYB wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...



NOYB wrote:



"basskisser" wrote in message
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JohnH wrote:




On 4 Jan 2005 13:14:21 -0800, "basskisser"


wrote:




NOYB wrote:




"basskisser" wrote in message

news:1104866287.844718.29410@c13g200 0cwb.googlegroups.com...




NOYB wrote:




"Harry Krause" wrote in
message
...





The road is old and overutilized.

Kind of like the vaginal orifice on an old whore, eh?

Kind of like all of Florida, eh?

Everything in Naples is new...but it is overutilized.

That's odd. You sure try hard to push Naples as the best
place in

the




world. Well, you are wrong, as usual:
On the way to Naples' historic Pier is Palm Cottage, built
in
1895

and




reputedly Naples' oldest house, where guided tours are
offered in
season. Other historic buildings include the Naples
Commissary

Building




in Olde Naples, dating back to 1903, and the renovated
Naples
Depot
(1927), once the Naples Train Station and now displaying a

caboose

and




other railroad memorabilia. History buffs will also find
much of
interest at the Collier County Museum, which houses a
permanent
collection from Prehistoric times through to the present
day. You

will




learn about the early Indian settlements here and may wish
to go
on

to




visit an Indian Village in the area, where genuine Indian,

hand-crafted




artifacts are sold.

Why not just post the web site from which you plagiarized
your
information?

http://www.naples-florida.com/quicktour/history.htm

Good day, and Happy New Year!

John H

Why do so? NOYB won't believe it anyway! He only believes
what he
wants
to believe. I've been to Naples. Many times. I know people
who's
families have lived in Naples for generations. It's just
like the
time
that NOYB was trying to tell everyone here that Naples
doesn't have
swampbillies.



Naples doesn't have swampbillies. Perhaps you're referring
to
Golden Gate Estates? Yes, it has a Naples mailing
address...but
it's not the same Naples that a couple hundred thousand
snowbirds
come down to visit every year.

The median home price in Naples is just a hair under
$400,000.
Swampbillies don't buy $400,000 homes.

You obviously haven't been to Naples in a long
time...probably not
since you worked parking lot security when the Wal-Mart was
being
built.




I thought a swampbilly was a homeless person who lived in your
part
of the country...


If being homeless is the definition of a "swampbilly", then
Naples has
no "swampbillies". I have never seen a homeless person in
Naples.

Then you are a blind man.


There are no homeless people in the sense that there are folks
sleeping
on the street. There are homeless people in shelters down here,
no
doubt.



Coming back from a cruise to the Bahamas


last week, I was astounded at the number of homeless folks in
the
neighborhood around Capt. Harry's tackle in Miami...which is
just a
couple of blocks from the American Airlines (or whatever they
call it
now) Arena and the waterfront.

It's also on the cusp of an area that has undergone a lot of
change,
and there is a homeless mission not far from the store...or
there was.


It's still there. Right across the street from Capt. Harry's.



Methinks you're just one of those good Christian Americans who
have no
idea about the poverty in their communities. The poverty rate in
Naples
city rose 50% between 1990 and 1996, and is now about the same
as the
rest of Florida, excluding Miami, which has a higher rate
because of
factors unique to it. Your poverty rate is about 10%.


Where are you getting your data? When you say "now", are you
referring
to 2000 census data? Things have changed quite a bit in 5 years.
Is
the data specific to Naples? Or is it for all of Collier County,
which
includes several poor communities like Immokalee, Everglades
City, and
Chokoloskee?

Regardless, living blow the level of poverty isn't the the same
thing as
being homeless. All homeless folks are below the poverty level,
but not
everyone who is below the poverty level is homeless.



Sheesh.

You live there and you're in the healing arts and you don't know
there
are homeless in your town?

I had no problem getting hits on "Naples" "Homeless," and these
were both
in the city and in the county.

Both are your area.


You posted very specific statistics for Naples. Where'd you get
that
data?


From my search. I got about 990 hits. I looked at a couple of them.

Why don't you just post a link to the stats? It should be in your
History
list.

Here, NOYB, call for yourself:

Petra Jones
Collier County Hunger and Homeless Coalition
c/o St Matthew's House
2001 Airport Rd S
Naples, FL 34112
P: (941) 774-0500
F: (941) 774-7146


Thanks. They said that there are roughly 700 homeless people in Collier
County, but added that most of them were from Immokalee and other
surrounding communities. They couldn't say for sure how many were from
Naples.

There are 287,000 people in Collier County...700 of whom are homeless.
I'd like to know where Harry got his 10% statistic. And he specifically
said 10% homeless *in Naples*.


The number of homeless has now fallen to 530:

http://www.collierhomelesscoalition....summary=tru e

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

The number of homeless has now fallen to 530:

http://www.collierhomelesscoalition....summary=tru e


Sorry, bub, but that page you reference has no indication that all, most,
half, or what percentage of the homeless in your area were reached. It
give a total number reached, that's all.

Last year it said 700.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

The number of homeless has now fallen to 530:

http://www.collierhomelesscoalition....summary=tru e


Sorry, bub, but that page you reference has no indication that all, most,
half, or what percentage of the homeless in your area were reached. It
give a total number reached, that's all.

Isn't this they same line used by Democrats when the census is taken? The
Democrats claim you only counted 10% of the Demcrats.