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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message

roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to trash it. it
is a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a long time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in the Bay Area)

Can anyone point me to a a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='junk yard'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a or
who or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old boat that I
had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't donate it. What
to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For Sale" sign
on it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I "accepted"
an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans out his yard
of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or boats just
left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore. He sells the
ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when this happens -
he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and
dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach
and let
the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know that's not
true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place that would
prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that the boats
don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat out of your
yard
and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in some states
if the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight.

That doesn't mean they can destroy it, or allow others to destroy
it.

And the harbor district
has a perfectly legal right to do this.

Proof?

You do not pay your slip rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat.

Are you trying to say that having a lien on someone's property
means
"they own" it??????

And after the salvagers get
through, there is very little to tow off to the landfill. Works
well.

So, let me get this straight. You claim that the marina now owns
the
boat, right? But, instead of selling it and making money from it,
they
decide to let salvagers make the money????? How stupid are you,
Bill?


Look at the post from the guy trying to get rid of a Coronado 27
from his
slip. People do not want to buy these boats, and if you tie up the
slip
for
6 months trying to sell the boat for $1000 and the slip rental is
worth
$500
a month, How much money has the Harbor District made?

Asslicker once again proves he is the King of the NG idiots. Hell,
even
summer storage around here runs 300-400 a month on land for an
average size
boat.....asslicker would probably think it is worthwile venure to pay
a
marine mechanic $40 hour for 3 days to salvage $60.00 worth of parts.
What
a mar00n


Jesus you are stupid!!!!!! So, do tell, if the marina runs the boat
aground, how do the salvagers get paid their $40 an hour THEN???? You
dumb ****, the salvagers make their money from the parts, hence
*salvage*. Now, let's say that the overdue slip fees are $1000 dollars.
Let's say that a salvager can make $500 off of the parts. Let's say the
salvager will pay, say $100 for the boat. He nets $400, the marina
incurs a loss of $900 as opposed to $1000. Which do you think the
marina will do?
Now, what really shoots Calif. Bills diatribe full of holes, is the
fact that the agencies in charge wouldn't ever let a marina just dump
boats on the beach. That is pure bull****. If you can provide some
proof that that is happening, do so. If not, quit being an annoying
little **** ant.

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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message

roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to trash it. it
is a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a long time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in the Bay Area)

Can anyone point me to a a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='junk yard'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a or
who or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old boat that I
had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't donate it. What
to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For Sale" sign
on it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I "accepted"
an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans out his yard
of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or boats just
left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore. He sells the
ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when this happens -
he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and
dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach
and let
the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know that's not
true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place that would
prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that the boats
don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat out of your
yard
and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in some states
if the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight.

That doesn't mean they can destroy it, or allow others to destroy
it.

And the harbor district
has a perfectly legal right to do this.

Proof?

You do not pay your slip rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat.

Are you trying to say that having a lien on someone's property
means
"they own" it??????

And after the salvagers get
through, there is very little to tow off to the landfill. Works
well.

So, let me get this straight. You claim that the marina now owns
the
boat, right? But, instead of selling it and making money from it,
they
decide to let salvagers make the money????? How stupid are you,
Bill?


Look at the post from the guy trying to get rid of a Coronado 27
from his
slip. People do not want to buy these boats, and if you tie up the
slip
for
6 months trying to sell the boat for $1000 and the slip rental is
worth
$500
a month, How much money has the Harbor District made?

Asslicker once again proves he is the King of the NG idiots. Hell,
even
summer storage around here runs 300-400 a month on land for an
average size
boat.....asslicker would probably think it is worthwile venure to pay
a
marine mechanic $40 hour for 3 days to salvage $60.00 worth of parts.
What
a mar00n


Jesus you are stupid!!!!!! So, do tell, if the marina runs the boat
aground, how do the salvagers get paid their $40 an hour THEN???? You
dumb ****, the salvagers make their money from the parts, hence
*salvage*. Now, let's say that the overdue slip fees are $1000 dollars.
Let's say that a salvager can make $500 off of the parts. Let's say the
salvager will pay, say $100 for the boat. He nets $400, the marina
incurs a loss of $900 as opposed to $1000. Which do you think the
marina will do?
Now, what really shoots Calif. Bills diatribe full of holes, is the
fact that the agencies in charge wouldn't ever let a marina just dump
boats on the beach. That is pure bull****. If you can provide some
proof that that is happening, do so. If not, quit being an annoying
little **** ant.


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach inside the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not get into the water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up in paper work a
couple of times over.

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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote
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...
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message

roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to trash it. it
is a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a long time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in the Bay Area)

Can anyone point me to a a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='junk yard'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a or
who or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old boat that I
had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't donate it. What
to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For Sale" sign
on it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I "accepted"
an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans out his yard
of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or boats just
left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore. He sells the
ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when this happens -
he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and
dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach
and let
the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know that's not
true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place that would
prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that the boats
don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat out of your
yard
and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in some states
if the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight.

That doesn't mean they can destroy it, or allow others to destroy
it.

And the harbor district
has a perfectly legal right to do this.

Proof?

You do not pay your slip rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat.

Are you trying to say that having a lien on someone's property
means
"they own" it??????

And after the salvagers get
through, there is very little to tow off to the landfill. Works
well.

So, let me get this straight. You claim that the marina now owns
the
boat, right? But, instead of selling it and making money from it,
they
decide to let salvagers make the money????? How stupid are you,
Bill?


Look at the post from the guy trying to get rid of a Coronado 27
from his
slip. People do not want to buy these boats, and if you tie up the
slip
for
6 months trying to sell the boat for $1000 and the slip rental is
worth
$500
a month, How much money has the Harbor District made?

Asslicker once again proves he is the King of the NG idiots. Hell,
even
summer storage around here runs 300-400 a month on land for an
average size
boat.....asslicker would probably think it is worthwile venure to pay
a
marine mechanic $40 hour for 3 days to salvage $60.00 worth of parts.
What
a mar00n


Jesus you are stupid!!!!!! So, do tell, if the marina runs the boat
aground, how do the salvagers get paid their $40 an hour THEN???? You
dumb ****, the salvagers make their money from the parts, hence
*salvage*. Now, let's say that the overdue slip fees are $1000 dollars.
Let's say that a salvager can make $500 off of the parts. Let's say the
salvager will pay, say $100 for the boat. He nets $400, the marina
incurs a loss of $900 as opposed to $1000. Which do you think the
marina will do?
Now, what really shoots Calif. Bills diatribe full of holes, is the
fact that the agencies in charge wouldn't ever let a marina just dump
boats on the beach. That is pure bull****. If you can provide some
proof that that is happening, do so. If not, quit being an annoying
little **** ant.


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach inside the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not get into the water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up in paper work a
couple of times over.

It is pretty funny to watch asslicker stomp his feet and bellow when he
thinks he knows what he is talking about, when in reality he doesn't have a
clue.

Calif Bill wrote:


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach inside the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not get into the
water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up in paper work
a
couple of times over.

Perhaps you should take a look at the laws of your own state regarding
such issues. Start with AB 1014

Task Force- Prevention of Abandoned Boats - RBOC is following-up on the
provisions of AB 1014 [Canciamilla, Chapter 357, Statutes of 2003],
legislation the organization sponsored in an effort to develop
strategies to prevent recreational vessels from being abandoned and to
facilitate the ability of owners to turn in their recreational vessels
to public agencies for disposal in lieu of abandonment.



Under AB 1014, the Department of Boating and Waterways is convening,
an "abandoned vessel advisory committee" to assist in this effort.
RBOC is participating on the committee.

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Calif Bill wrote:


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach inside the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not get into the
water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up in paper work
a
couple of times over.

Perhaps you should take a look at the laws of your own state regarding
such issues. Start with AB 1014

Task Force- Prevention of Abandoned Boats - RBOC is following-up on the
provisions of AB 1014 [Canciamilla, Chapter 357, Statutes of 2003],
legislation the organization sponsored in an effort to develop
strategies to prevent recreational vessels from being abandoned and to
facilitate the ability of owners to turn in their recreational vessels
to public agencies for disposal in lieu of abandonment.



Under AB 1014, the Department of Boating and Waterways is convening,
an "abandoned vessel advisory committee" to assist in this effort.
RBOC is participating on the committee.


What about this Assembly Bill contravenes The getting rid of an abandoned
boat by the harbor? They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach inside
the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not get into
the
water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up in paper
work
a
couple of times over.

Perhaps you should take a look at the laws of your own state
regarding
such issues. Start with AB 1014

Task Force- Prevention of Abandoned Boats - RBOC is following-up on
the
provisions of AB 1014 [Canciamilla, Chapter 357, Statutes of 2003],
legislation the organization sponsored in an effort to develop
strategies to prevent recreational vessels from being abandoned and
to
facilitate the ability of owners to turn in their recreational
vessels
to public agencies for disposal in lieu of abandonment.



Under AB 1014, the Department of Boating and Waterways is
convening,
an "abandoned vessel advisory committee" to assist in this effort.
RBOC is participating on the committee.


What about this Assembly Bill contravenes The getting rid of an
abandoned
boat by the harbor? They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers
strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.

IT'S ****ING ILLEGAL TO DISPOSE OF BOATS IN THIS MANNER.......
Read you own damned state laws, for God's sake. IF you were to take a
look, you'd find, by doing a simple search like I did, no less than 100
laws pertaining DIRECTLY to the abandonment of recreational vessels.

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach inside
the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not get into
the
water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up in paper
work
a
couple of times over.

Perhaps you should take a look at the laws of your own state
regarding
such issues. Start with AB 1014

Task Force- Prevention of Abandoned Boats - RBOC is following-up on
the
provisions of AB 1014 [Canciamilla, Chapter 357, Statutes of 2003],
legislation the organization sponsored in an effort to develop
strategies to prevent recreational vessels from being abandoned and
to
facilitate the ability of owners to turn in their recreational
vessels
to public agencies for disposal in lieu of abandonment.



Under AB 1014, the Department of Boating and Waterways is
convening,
an "abandoned vessel advisory committee" to assist in this effort.
RBOC is participating on the committee.


What about this Assembly Bill contravenes The getting rid of an
abandoned
boat by the harbor? They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers
strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.

IT'S ****ING ILLEGAL TO DISPOSE OF BOATS IN THIS MANNER.......
Read you own damned state laws, for God's sake. IF you were to take a
look, you'd find, by doing a simple search like I did, no less than 100
laws pertaining DIRECTLY to the abandonment of recreational vessels.


Where is the boat abandoned by the harbor district? Better get hold of
yourself, you may explode.

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach
inside
the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not get
into
the
water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up in
paper
work
a
couple of times over.

Perhaps you should take a look at the laws of your own state
regarding
such issues. Start with AB 1014

Task Force- Prevention of Abandoned Boats - RBOC is
following-up on
the
provisions of AB 1014 [Canciamilla, Chapter 357, Statutes of
2003],
legislation the organization sponsored in an effort to develop
strategies to prevent recreational vessels from being abandoned
and
to
facilitate the ability of owners to turn in their recreational
vessels
to public agencies for disposal in lieu of abandonment.



Under AB 1014, the Department of Boating and Waterways is
convening,
an "abandoned vessel advisory committee" to assist in this
effort.
RBOC is participating on the committee.


What about this Assembly Bill contravenes The getting rid of an
abandoned
boat by the harbor? They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers
strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.

IT'S ****ING ILLEGAL TO DISPOSE OF BOATS IN THIS MANNER.......
Read you own damned state laws, for God's sake. IF you were to take
a
look, you'd find, by doing a simple search like I did, no less than
100
laws pertaining DIRECTLY to the abandonment of recreational
vessels.


Where is the boat abandoned by the harbor district? Better get hold
of
yourself, you may explode.

Oh, holy ****, Bill!!!! You need to learn to read. Again, it is illegal
to abandon recreational boats anywhere in CA. jeez. If I do the simple
****ing google search FOR you, will you then realize, and admit that
you are wrong as can be?