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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message

roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to trash it. it
is a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a long time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in the Bay Area)

Can anyone point me to a a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='junk yard'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a or
who
or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old boat that I
had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't donate it.
What to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For Sale" sign
on
it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I "accepted"
an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans out his
yard of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or boats just
left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore. He sells
the
ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when this happens -
he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and
dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach
and
let the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know that's not
true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place that would
prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that the boats
don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat out of
your
yard and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in some states
if
the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight. And the
harbor
district
has a perfectly legal right to do this. You do not pay your
slip
rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat. And after the
salvagers
get
through, there is very little to tow off to the landfill.
Works
well.

Asslicker is once again showing why he retains his title of King
of
the NG
idiots. Anybody with an IQ in double digits knows that a marina
can
slap a
lien on your boat if you don't pay your bills, and can end up
with
ownership
shortly thereafter.....depending on the particular state's law.

A lien can take YEARS to clear up for you to gain ownership. Okay,
now,
let's say that happens. Do you HONESTLY think that a marina, that
OWNS
that boat, will now let salvagers make money off of it, instead of
THEM
selling it to recoup their loses?????? That is just plain idiotic.


If you have a mechanics lien, it will be as little as 30 days. And
for
the
harbor district to make money from a junker boat? How much labor
are they
going to have to invest? Much easier and very little money loss to
the
harbor district to have the salvagers dismantle the boat. And the
salvagers
normally as a courtesy take the remains to the landfill. Keeps
good
relations with the harbor.

Cripes, that boy is dumber than a tree stump. 30 - 45 days after
giving
notice is not uncommon whatsoever.......poor asslicker.......still
maintiaing that deathgrip on title of "King of the NG idiots"

Okay, time to redeem yourself. Show some proof of your above statement.

Do YOU honestly think that a marina would just give boats away, rather
than try to recoup some of their loses?????

Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message

roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to trash it. it is
a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a long time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in the Bay Area)

Can anyone point me to a a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='junk yard'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a or
who or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old boat that I had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't donate it. What
to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For Sale" sign
on it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I "accepted" an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans out his yard
of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or boats just
left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore. He sells the
ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when this happens -
he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and
dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach and
let
the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know that's not
true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place that would
prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that the boats
don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat out of your
yard
and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in some states if
the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight.

That doesn't mean they can destroy it, or allow others to destroy
it.

And the harbor district
has a perfectly legal right to do this.

Proof?

You do not pay your slip rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat.

Are you trying to say that having a lien on someone's property
means
"they own" it??????

And after the salvagers get
through, there is very little to tow off to the landfill. Works
well.

So, let me get this straight. You claim that the marina now owns
the
boat, right? But, instead of selling it and making money from it,
they
decide to let salvagers make the money????? How stupid are you,
Bill?


Look at the post from the guy trying to get rid of a Coronado 27 from
his
slip. People do not want to buy these boats, and if you tie up the
slip for
6 months trying to sell the boat for $1000 and the slip rental is
worth $500
a month, How much money has the Harbor District made?

Here's an idea. SELL it to the salvagers. You then, at the very least,
make up some of the lose you've incurred. Do you think that the marina
actually WANTS to lose money? Do you think that the C.F.O. of that
marina would say, hey, we can either lose $1000 dollars, or we can lose
$500, I think that we should lose the entire $1000????

P.Fritz wrote:
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oups.com...

P.Fritz wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote
in
message
...
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message

roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to trash it. it
is a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a long time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in the Bay Area)

Can anyone point me to a a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='junk yard'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a or
who
or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old boat that I
had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't donate it.
What to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For Sale" sign
on
it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I "accepted"
an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans out his
yard of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or boats just
left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore. He sells
the
ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when this happens -
he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and
dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach
and
let the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know that's not
true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place that would
prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that the boats
don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat out of
your
yard and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in some states
if
the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight. And the
harbor
district
has a perfectly legal right to do this. You do not pay your
slip
rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat. And after the
salvagers
get
through, there is very little to tow off to the landfill.
Works
well.

Asslicker is once again showing why he retains his title of King
of
the NG
idiots. Anybody with an IQ in double digits knows that a marina
can
slap a
lien on your boat if you don't pay your bills, and can end up
with
ownership
shortly thereafter.....depending on the particular state's law.

A lien can take YEARS to clear up for you to gain ownership. Okay,
now,
let's say that happens. Do you HONESTLY think that a marina, that
OWNS
that boat, will now let salvagers make money off of it, instead of
THEM
selling it to recoup their loses?????? That is just plain idiotic.


If you have a mechanics lien, it will be as little as 30 days. And
for
the
harbor district to make money from a junker boat? How much labor
are they
going to have to invest? Much easier and very little money loss to
the
harbor district to have the salvagers dismantle the boat. And the
salvagers
normally as a courtesy take the remains to the landfill. Keeps
good
relations with the harbor.

Cripes, that boy is dumber than a tree stump. 30 - 45 days after
giving
notice is not uncommon whatsoever.......poor asslicker.......still
maintiaing that deathgrip on title of "King of the NG idiots" I
just love
the way he keeps spouting off about things he knows absolutely
nothing
about. '"Idiotic" that sums up asslicker

You are an annoying little **** ant.

bb wrote:

The alley behind my business is like a freeway for people living on
the fringe of society. I didn't realize this until I bought a
commercial property, with an alley, in my area. For years I rented
commercial space in the downtown area and had to deal with all of it's
idiocentriciticies, before I bought my own piece of commercial heaven
in the city.

Over the last couple of years I have learned, if there's something I
want to keep, don't leave it outside, for even a few hours. If
there's something I want to get rid of, which is very often, leave it
outside for a night, and like magic, it will be gone.

I had an old fuel oil drum from an old heating system, that was left
as a gift from the previous owner of the property. I pumped the 30 or
so gallons of heating oil into jerry cans and took them to to the
county recycling center. They said the would take the old 55 gallon
drum, but after I loaded it and hauled it down to the dump, they
declined, as it was an old fuel oil drum. I was instructed to drill
holes into the drum and then they would accept it, but they didn't.

I left it out back one night, and like majic, it was gone the next
morning. I could probably make a lot of money getting rid of spent
fuel rods from neuclear plants, but I just don't have it in me.



Could basskisser come and spend a night in your alley?

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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote
in
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...
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message

roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to trash it. it
is a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a long time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in the Bay Area)

Can anyone point me to a a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='junk yard'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a or
who or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old boat that I
had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't donate it. What
to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For Sale" sign
on it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I "accepted"
an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans out his yard
of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or boats just
left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore. He sells the
ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when this happens -
he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and
dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach
and let
the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know that's not
true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place that would
prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that the boats
don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat out of your
yard
and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in some states
if the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight.

That doesn't mean they can destroy it, or allow others to destroy
it.

And the harbor district
has a perfectly legal right to do this.

Proof?

You do not pay your slip rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat.

Are you trying to say that having a lien on someone's property
means
"they own" it??????

And after the salvagers get
through, there is very little to tow off to the landfill. Works
well.

So, let me get this straight. You claim that the marina now owns
the
boat, right? But, instead of selling it and making money from it,
they
decide to let salvagers make the money????? How stupid are you,
Bill?


Look at the post from the guy trying to get rid of a Coronado 27
from his
slip. People do not want to buy these boats, and if you tie up the
slip
for
6 months trying to sell the boat for $1000 and the slip rental is
worth
$500
a month, How much money has the Harbor District made?

Asslicker once again proves he is the King of the NG idiots. Hell,
even
summer storage around here runs 300-400 a month on land for an
average size
boat.....asslicker would probably think it is worthwile venure to pay
a
marine mechanic $40 hour for 3 days to salvage $60.00 worth of parts.
What
a mar00n


Jesus you are stupid!!!!!! So, do tell, if the marina runs the boat
aground, how do the salvagers get paid their $40 an hour THEN???? You
dumb ****, the salvagers make their money from the parts, hence
*salvage*. Now, let's say that the overdue slip fees are $1000 dollars.
Let's say that a salvager can make $500 off of the parts. Let's say the
salvager will pay, say $100 for the boat. He nets $400, the marina
incurs a loss of $900 as opposed to $1000. Which do you think the
marina will do?
Now, what really shoots Calif. Bills diatribe full of holes, is the
fact that the agencies in charge wouldn't ever let a marina just dump
boats on the beach. That is pure bull****. If you can provide some
proof that that is happening, do so. If not, quit being an annoying
little **** ant.

P.Fritz wrote:
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"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote
in
message
...
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message

roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to trash it. it
is a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a long time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in the Bay Area)

Can anyone point me to a a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='junk yard'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a or
who or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old boat that I
had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't donate it. What
to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For Sale" sign
on it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I "accepted"
an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans out his yard
of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or boats just
left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore. He sells the
ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when this happens -
he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and
dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach
and let
the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know that's not
true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place that would
prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that the boats
don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat out of your
yard
and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in some states
if the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight.

That doesn't mean they can destroy it, or allow others to destroy
it.

And the harbor district
has a perfectly legal right to do this.

Proof?

You do not pay your slip rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat.

Are you trying to say that having a lien on someone's property
means
"they own" it??????

And after the salvagers get
through, there is very little to tow off to the landfill. Works
well.

So, let me get this straight. You claim that the marina now owns
the
boat, right? But, instead of selling it and making money from it,
they
decide to let salvagers make the money????? How stupid are you,
Bill?


Look at the post from the guy trying to get rid of a Coronado 27
from his
slip. People do not want to buy these boats, and if you tie up the
slip
for
6 months trying to sell the boat for $1000 and the slip rental is
worth
$500
a month, How much money has the Harbor District made?

Asslicker once again proves he is the King of the NG idiots. Hell,
even
summer storage around here runs 300-400 a month on land for an
average size
boat.....asslicker would probably think it is worthwile venure to pay
a
marine mechanic $40 hour for 3 days to salvage $60.00 worth of parts.
What
a mar00n



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what an informative, and intelligent post....NOT....

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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message

roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to trash it. it
is a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a long time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in the Bay Area)

Can anyone point me to a a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='junk yard'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a or
who
or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old boat that I
had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't donate it. What
to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For Sale" sign
on
it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I "accepted"
an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans out his yard
of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or boats just
left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore. He sells the
ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when this happens -
he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and
dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach
and
let the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know that's not
true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place that would
prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that the boats
don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat out of your
yard and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in some states
if
the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight. And the
harbor
district
has a perfectly legal right to do this. You do not pay your
slip
rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat. And after the
salvagers
get
through, there is very little to tow off to the landfill.
Works
well.

Asslicker is once again showing why he retains his title of King
of
the NG
idiots. Anybody with an IQ in double digits knows that a marina
can
slap a
lien on your boat if you don't pay your bills, and can end up
with
ownership
shortly thereafter.....depending on the particular state's law.

A lien can take YEARS to clear up for you to gain ownership. Okay,
now,
let's say that happens. Do you HONESTLY think that a marina, that
OWNS
that boat, will now let salvagers make money off of it, instead of
THEM
selling it to recoup their loses?????? That is just plain idiotic.


If you have a mechanics lien, it will be as little as 30 days. And
for the
harbor district to make money from a junker boat? How much labor are
they
going to have to invest? Much easier and very little money loss to
the
harbor district to have the salvagers dismantle the boat. And the
salvagers
normally as a courtesy take the remains to the landfill. Keeps good
relations with the harbor.

OH, so, now you are saying that every boat that is in that harbor, that
hasn't paid their slip fees are junk boats? No one with a boat that is
of any value is ever delinquent on their slip fees? And, again, you are
telling me that the marina would rather NOT recoup their loses????


I can not believe you are that stupid. . . The fees go unpaid for 6 months
to a year. The boat is not worth much, so how is the harbor going to recoup
some of their losses by tieing up the slip for another 6 months to a year
while trying to sell a boat for $1-2k? When the slip is worth $4-500 a
month. Look at all the sales of storage unit contents if you do not think
that not paying your rent still prevents you from losing your stuff.

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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message

roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to trash it. it is
a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a long time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in the Bay Area)

Can anyone point me to a a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='junk yard'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a or
who or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old boat that I had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't donate it. What
to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For Sale" sign
on it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I "accepted" an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans out his yard
of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or boats just
left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore. He sells the
ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when this happens -
he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and
dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach and
let
the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know that's not
true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place that would
prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that the boats
don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat out of your
yard
and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in some states if
the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight.

That doesn't mean they can destroy it, or allow others to destroy
it.

And the harbor district
has a perfectly legal right to do this.

Proof?

You do not pay your slip rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat.

Are you trying to say that having a lien on someone's property
means
"they own" it??????

And after the salvagers get
through, there is very little to tow off to the landfill. Works
well.

So, let me get this straight. You claim that the marina now owns
the
boat, right? But, instead of selling it and making money from it,
they
decide to let salvagers make the money????? How stupid are you,
Bill?


Look at the post from the guy trying to get rid of a Coronado 27 from
his
slip. People do not want to buy these boats, and if you tie up the
slip for
6 months trying to sell the boat for $1000 and the slip rental is
worth $500
a month, How much money has the Harbor District made?

Here's an idea. SELL it to the salvagers. You then, at the very least,
make up some of the lose you've incurred. Do you think that the marina
actually WANTS to lose money? Do you think that the C.F.O. of that
marina would say, hey, we can either lose $1000 dollars, or we can lose
$500, I think that we should lose the entire $1000????


Not enough profit in the boat to also have to pay for it. The Sacramento
Delta is littered with abandoned boats. Some are even large barges.
Enviromental disasters waiting. The Counties spend millions trying to get
rid of them. So you think they are going to tie up a $500 / month slip for
2 months on the bet that the boat might be sold for $1000? I can see why
you are not wealthy.

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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message

roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to trash it. it
is a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a long time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in the Bay Area)

Can anyone point me to a a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='junk yard'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a or
who or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old boat that I
had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't donate it. What
to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For Sale" sign
on it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I "accepted"
an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans out his yard
of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or boats just
left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore. He sells the
ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when this happens -
he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and
dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach
and let
the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know that's not
true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place that would
prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that the boats
don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat out of your
yard
and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in some states
if the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight.

That doesn't mean they can destroy it, or allow others to destroy
it.

And the harbor district
has a perfectly legal right to do this.

Proof?

You do not pay your slip rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat.

Are you trying to say that having a lien on someone's property
means
"they own" it??????

And after the salvagers get
through, there is very little to tow off to the landfill. Works
well.

So, let me get this straight. You claim that the marina now owns
the
boat, right? But, instead of selling it and making money from it,
they
decide to let salvagers make the money????? How stupid are you,
Bill?


Look at the post from the guy trying to get rid of a Coronado 27
from his
slip. People do not want to buy these boats, and if you tie up the
slip
for
6 months trying to sell the boat for $1000 and the slip rental is
worth
$500
a month, How much money has the Harbor District made?

Asslicker once again proves he is the King of the NG idiots. Hell,
even
summer storage around here runs 300-400 a month on land for an
average size
boat.....asslicker would probably think it is worthwile venure to pay
a
marine mechanic $40 hour for 3 days to salvage $60.00 worth of parts.
What
a mar00n


Jesus you are stupid!!!!!! So, do tell, if the marina runs the boat
aground, how do the salvagers get paid their $40 an hour THEN???? You
dumb ****, the salvagers make their money from the parts, hence
*salvage*. Now, let's say that the overdue slip fees are $1000 dollars.
Let's say that a salvager can make $500 off of the parts. Let's say the
salvager will pay, say $100 for the boat. He nets $400, the marina
incurs a loss of $900 as opposed to $1000. Which do you think the
marina will do?
Now, what really shoots Calif. Bills diatribe full of holes, is the
fact that the agencies in charge wouldn't ever let a marina just dump
boats on the beach. That is pure bull****. If you can provide some
proof that that is happening, do so. If not, quit being an annoying
little **** ant.


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach inside the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not get into the water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up in paper work a
couple of times over.