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I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in
several
states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in CA.
And
it
is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the
salvagers
have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb. Now,
IF
they
are
doing as you said, they are also violating your states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about
environmental
issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he can't
tell
me
that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state laws
and
statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it in
temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let all
the
salvagers
they want at the boat.

Oh, NOW they are putting it in "temporary storage, huh? Please,
I've
asked before, give the number of the marina that is doing this.
I'd
like to talk to them. I'll give a full report, including the
name
of
the person I talk to, so anyone here can see for themselves
that
you
are full of ****. YOU said that they run the boat up on the
beach
and
let the salvager's have at it. That is a damned LIE. IF they
did
that,
they'd have more lawsuits, criminal charges, and environmental
citations than they knew what to do with.


Why would they have criminal charges. They own the beach, they
own
the boat
(mechanics lien), and what is enviromentally pooched?

Jeez, you are dumb, Bill. It doesn't matter who owns the beach.
That
doesn't give them a right to dump boats there.
There are very strict environmental laws dealing with illegal
dumping
in CA waters, regardless of whether it actually causes
environmental
harm. I suggest you read your own state's laws before commenting
further, your looking like an ass. Now, let me check my email and
see
if Pillar point has gotten back to me yet. If so, I'll post it
here, so
you can, again, be wrong.


Temporary beaching is allowed you doofus. And the beaching is only
temporary. The beach is normally nice a clean of boats. Lots of
bird poop,
etc. Damn you show you show your stupidity. And where are you
registered
as a PE Kevin?

Uh, you dumb ass, again, I've shown you SEVERAL laws where abandoning
watercraft in CA waters is illegal. Please show me ONE where it IS
legal. Can you? Now, "temporary beaching" is fine. BUT, temporary
beaching isn't what you've suggested that the marinas there are doing.
YOU said that they beach the boats, and let the salvagers have at them.
That, is not temporary. Again, show me a law that says that it is
legal. You can't, because there is none. I've shown, and found pages
and pages of CA law that says that it is ILLEGAL. The proof is in the
pudding, as they say, and I've shown ALL of the proof here in this
argument, and you've shown NONE. I'm awaiting Pillar Point's official
word on the matter, and I'll post it here, so we'll KNOW who's stupid.
Speaking of stupid, I'm not Kevin, and I'm registered in several
states.

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Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in several
states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in CA. And
it
is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the salvagers
have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb. Now, IF
they
are
doing as you said, they are also violating your states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about environmental
issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he can't tell
me
that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state laws and
statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it in
temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let all the
salvagers
they want at the boat.

I've contacted them to ask, giving them your exact post saying that
they beach the boats and let salvagers have at them.
Anyone here that believes Bill should either call them or email
them:
email:
phone: 650-726-4723


w.smharbor.com/pillarpoint/

Putting it in the Box is the term.

Just like in Diego Garcia, they blow up the boats that get siezed in
the no
boat zone with gun fire. You going to complain that they are
breaking the
law there also?

And where is your PE listing Kevin?
If they are breaking the law, yes indeed.
I'm not Kevin.

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Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in
several
states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in CA.
And
it
is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the
salvagers
have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb. Now,
IF
they
are
doing as you said, they are also violating your states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about
environmental
issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he can't
tell
me
that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state laws
and
statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it in
temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let all
the
salvagers
they want at the boat.

Oh, NOW they are putting it in "temporary storage, huh? Please,
I've
asked before, give the number of the marina that is doing this.
I'd
like to talk to them. I'll give a full report, including the
name
of
the person I talk to, so anyone here can see for themselves
that
you
are full of ****. YOU said that they run the boat up on the
beach
and
let the salvager's have at it. That is a damned LIE. IF they
did
that,
they'd have more lawsuits, criminal charges, and environmental
citations than they knew what to do with.


Why would they have criminal charges. They own the beach, they
own
the boat
(mechanics lien), and what is enviromentally pooched?

Jeez, you are dumb, Bill. It doesn't matter who owns the beach.
That
doesn't give them a right to dump boats there.
There are very strict environmental laws dealing with illegal
dumping
in CA waters, regardless of whether it actually causes
environmental
harm. I suggest you read your own state's laws before commenting
further, your looking like an ass. Now, let me check my email and
see
if Pillar point has gotten back to me yet. If so, I'll post it
here, so
you can, again, be wrong.


Temporary beaching is allowed you doofus. And the beaching is only
temporary. The beach is normally nice a clean of boats. Lots of
bird poop,
etc. Damn you show you show your stupidity. And where are you
registered
as a PE Kevin?

Uh, you dumb ass, again, I've shown you SEVERAL laws where abandoning
watercraft in CA waters is illegal. Please show me ONE where it IS
legal. Can you? Now, "temporary beaching" is fine. BUT, temporary
beaching isn't what you've suggested that the marinas there are doing.
YOU said that they beach the boats, and let the salvagers have at them.
That, is not temporary. Again, show me a law that says that it is
legal. You can't, because there is none. I've shown, and found pages
and pages of CA law that says that it is ILLEGAL. The proof is in the
pudding, as they say, and I've shown ALL of the proof here in this
argument, and you've shown NONE. I'm awaiting Pillar Point's official
word on the matter, and I'll post it here, so we'll KNOW who's stupid.
Speaking of stupid, I'm not Kevin, and I'm registered in several
states.


Registered as a sex offender does not count. As I stated they let the
salvagers at the boat and the remains are then sent to the landfill. Where
is that abandoning the boat on the beach. Abandoning

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Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in
several
states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in
CA.
And
it
is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the
salvagers
have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb.
Now,
IF
they
are
doing as you said, they are also violating your
states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about
environmental
issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he
can't
tell
me
that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state
laws
and
statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it
in
temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let
all
the
salvagers
they want at the boat.

Oh, NOW they are putting it in "temporary storage, huh?
Please,
I've
asked before, give the number of the marina that is doing
this.
I'd
like to talk to them. I'll give a full report, including
the
name
of
the person I talk to, so anyone here can see for themselves
that
you
are full of ****. YOU said that they run the boat up on the
beach
and
let the salvager's have at it. That is a damned LIE. IF
they
did
that,
they'd have more lawsuits, criminal charges, and
environmental
citations than they knew what to do with.


Why would they have criminal charges. They own the beach,
they
own
the boat
(mechanics lien), and what is enviromentally pooched?

Jeez, you are dumb, Bill. It doesn't matter who owns the beach.
That
doesn't give them a right to dump boats there.
There are very strict environmental laws dealing with illegal
dumping
in CA waters, regardless of whether it actually causes
environmental
harm. I suggest you read your own state's laws before
commenting
further, your looking like an ass. Now, let me check my email
and
see
if Pillar point has gotten back to me yet. If so, I'll post it
here, so
you can, again, be wrong.


Temporary beaching is allowed you doofus. And the beaching is
only
temporary. The beach is normally nice a clean of boats. Lots of
bird poop,
etc. Damn you show you show your stupidity. And where are you
registered
as a PE Kevin?

Uh, you dumb ass, again, I've shown you SEVERAL laws where
abandoning
watercraft in CA waters is illegal. Please show me ONE where it IS
legal. Can you? Now, "temporary beaching" is fine. BUT, temporary
beaching isn't what you've suggested that the marinas there are
doing.
YOU said that they beach the boats, and let the salvagers have at
them.
That, is not temporary. Again, show me a law that says that it is
legal. You can't, because there is none. I've shown, and found
pages
and pages of CA law that says that it is ILLEGAL. The proof is in
the
pudding, as they say, and I've shown ALL of the proof here in this
argument, and you've shown NONE. I'm awaiting Pillar Point's
official
word on the matter, and I'll post it here, so we'll KNOW who's
stupid.
Speaking of stupid, I'm not Kevin, and I'm registered in several
states.


Registered as a sex offender does not count.

Do tell Bill, what evidence do you have of the above? Do you have any,
or are you just making ignorant statements?

As I stated they let the
salvagers at the boat and the remains are then sent to the landfill.
Where
is that abandoning the boat on the beach. Abandoning

Again, please, read your state laws. There are very specific laws
concerning this in your state. A simple search did the trick. IF a boat
is beached, or sunken for the PURPOSE OF DISPOSAL, it is, indeed
against the law. Further, if a boat is beached with the intent of
disposal it is a direct violation of CA's environmental laws.

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Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in
several
states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in
CA.
And
it
is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the
salvagers
have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb.
Now,
IF
they
are
doing as you said, they are also violating your
states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about
environmental
issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he
can't
tell
me
that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state
laws
and
statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it
in
temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let
all
the
salvagers
they want at the boat.

Oh, NOW they are putting it in "temporary storage, huh?
Please,
I've
asked before, give the number of the marina that is doing
this.
I'd
like to talk to them. I'll give a full report, including
the
name
of
the person I talk to, so anyone here can see for themselves
that
you
are full of ****. YOU said that they run the boat up on the
beach
and
let the salvager's have at it. That is a damned LIE. IF
they
did
that,
they'd have more lawsuits, criminal charges, and
environmental
citations than they knew what to do with.


Why would they have criminal charges. They own the beach,
they
own
the boat
(mechanics lien), and what is enviromentally pooched?

Jeez, you are dumb, Bill. It doesn't matter who owns the beach.
That
doesn't give them a right to dump boats there.
There are very strict environmental laws dealing with illegal
dumping
in CA waters, regardless of whether it actually causes
environmental
harm. I suggest you read your own state's laws before
commenting
further, your looking like an ass. Now, let me check my email
and
see
if Pillar point has gotten back to me yet. If so, I'll post it
here, so
you can, again, be wrong.


Temporary beaching is allowed you doofus. And the beaching is
only
temporary. The beach is normally nice a clean of boats. Lots of
bird poop,
etc. Damn you show you show your stupidity. And where are you
registered
as a PE Kevin?

Uh, you dumb ass, again, I've shown you SEVERAL laws where
abandoning
watercraft in CA waters is illegal. Please show me ONE where it IS
legal. Can you? Now, "temporary beaching" is fine. BUT, temporary
beaching isn't what you've suggested that the marinas there are
doing.
YOU said that they beach the boats, and let the salvagers have at
them.
That, is not temporary. Again, show me a law that says that it is
legal. You can't, because there is none. I've shown, and found
pages
and pages of CA law that says that it is ILLEGAL. The proof is in
the
pudding, as they say, and I've shown ALL of the proof here in this
argument, and you've shown NONE. I'm awaiting Pillar Point's
official
word on the matter, and I'll post it here, so we'll KNOW who's
stupid.
Speaking of stupid, I'm not Kevin, and I'm registered in several
states.


Registered as a sex offender does not count. As I stated they let
the
salvagers at the boat and the remains are then sent to the landfill.
Where
is that abandoning the boat on the beach. Abandoning

Still haven't heard back from Pillar Point. My bet is that they don't
think it's a serious email, that someone could actually believe that
they do such a thing that violates several laws.

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Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in
several
states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in
CA.
And
it
is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the
salvagers
have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb.
Now,
IF
they
are
doing as you said, they are also violating your
states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about
environmental
issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he
can't
tell
me
that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state
laws
and
statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it
in
temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let
all
the
salvagers
they want at the boat.

Oh, NOW they are putting it in "temporary storage, huh?
Please,
I've
asked before, give the number of the marina that is doing
this.
I'd
like to talk to them. I'll give a full report, including
the
name
of
the person I talk to, so anyone here can see for themselves
that
you
are full of ****. YOU said that they run the boat up on the
beach
and
let the salvager's have at it. That is a damned LIE. IF
they
did
that,
they'd have more lawsuits, criminal charges, and
environmental
citations than they knew what to do with.


Why would they have criminal charges. They own the beach,
they
own
the boat
(mechanics lien), and what is enviromentally pooched?

Jeez, you are dumb, Bill. It doesn't matter who owns the beach.
That
doesn't give them a right to dump boats there.
There are very strict environmental laws dealing with illegal
dumping
in CA waters, regardless of whether it actually causes
environmental
harm. I suggest you read your own state's laws before
commenting
further, your looking like an ass. Now, let me check my email
and
see
if Pillar point has gotten back to me yet. If so, I'll post it
here, so
you can, again, be wrong.


Temporary beaching is allowed you doofus. And the beaching is
only
temporary. The beach is normally nice a clean of boats. Lots of
bird poop,
etc. Damn you show you show your stupidity. And where are you
registered
as a PE Kevin?

Uh, you dumb ass, again, I've shown you SEVERAL laws where
abandoning
watercraft in CA waters is illegal. Please show me ONE where it IS
legal. Can you? Now, "temporary beaching" is fine. BUT, temporary
beaching isn't what you've suggested that the marinas there are
doing.
YOU said that they beach the boats, and let the salvagers have at
them.
That, is not temporary. Again, show me a law that says that it is
legal. You can't, because there is none. I've shown, and found
pages
and pages of CA law that says that it is ILLEGAL. The proof is in
the
pudding, as they say, and I've shown ALL of the proof here in this
argument, and you've shown NONE. I'm awaiting Pillar Point's
official
word on the matter, and I'll post it here, so we'll KNOW who's
stupid.
Speaking of stupid, I'm not Kevin, and I'm registered in several
states.


Registered as a sex offender does not count. As I stated they let
the
salvagers at the boat and the remains are then sent to the landfill.
Where
is that abandoning the boat on the beach. Abandoning

Still haven't heard back from Pillar Point. My bet is that they don't
think it's a serious email, that someone could actually believe that
they do such a thing that violates several laws.


They probably heard of the you "king of newsgroup idiots"

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Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in
several
states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in
CA.
And
it
is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the
salvagers
have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb.
Now,
IF
they
are
doing as you said, they are also violating your
states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about
environmental
issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he
can't
tell
me
that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state
laws
and
statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it
in
temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let
all
the
salvagers
they want at the boat.

Oh, NOW they are putting it in "temporary storage, huh?
Please,
I've
asked before, give the number of the marina that is doing
this.
I'd
like to talk to them. I'll give a full report, including
the
name
of
the person I talk to, so anyone here can see for themselves
that
you
are full of ****. YOU said that they run the boat up on the
beach
and
let the salvager's have at it. That is a damned LIE. IF
they
did
that,
they'd have more lawsuits, criminal charges, and
environmental
citations than they knew what to do with.


Why would they have criminal charges. They own the beach,
they
own
the boat
(mechanics lien), and what is enviromentally pooched?

Jeez, you are dumb, Bill. It doesn't matter who owns the beach.
That
doesn't give them a right to dump boats there.
There are very strict environmental laws dealing with illegal
dumping
in CA waters, regardless of whether it actually causes
environmental
harm. I suggest you read your own state's laws before
commenting
further, your looking like an ass. Now, let me check my email
and
see
if Pillar point has gotten back to me yet. If so, I'll post it
here, so
you can, again, be wrong.


Temporary beaching is allowed you doofus. And the beaching is
only
temporary. The beach is normally nice a clean of boats. Lots of
bird poop,
etc. Damn you show you show your stupidity. And where are you
registered
as a PE Kevin?

Uh, you dumb ass, again, I've shown you SEVERAL laws where
abandoning
watercraft in CA waters is illegal. Please show me ONE where it IS
legal. Can you? Now, "temporary beaching" is fine. BUT, temporary
beaching isn't what you've suggested that the marinas there are
doing.
YOU said that they beach the boats, and let the salvagers have at
them.
That, is not temporary. Again, show me a law that says that it is
legal. You can't, because there is none. I've shown, and found
pages
and pages of CA law that says that it is ILLEGAL. The proof is in
the
pudding, as they say, and I've shown ALL of the proof here in this
argument, and you've shown NONE. I'm awaiting Pillar Point's
official
word on the matter, and I'll post it here, so we'll KNOW who's
stupid.
Speaking of stupid, I'm not Kevin, and I'm registered in several
states.


Registered as a sex offender does not count. As I stated they let
the
salvagers at the boat and the remains are then sent to the landfill.
Where
is that abandoning the boat on the beach. Abandoning

Still haven't heard back from Pillar Point. My bet is that they don't
think it's a serious email, that someone could actually believe that
they do such a thing that violates several laws.


They probably heard of the you "king of newsgroup idiots"

It would certain come across in his writing :-)

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Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered
in
several
states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon
boats in
CA.
And
it
is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let
the
salvagers
have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just
dumb.
Now,
IF
they
are
doing as you said, they are also violating your
states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about
environmental
issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he
can't
tell
me
that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state
laws
and
statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting
it
in
temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can
let
all
the
salvagers
they want at the boat.

Oh, NOW they are putting it in "temporary storage, huh?
Please,
I've
asked before, give the number of the marina that is
doing
this.
I'd
like to talk to them. I'll give a full report,
including
the
name
of
the person I talk to, so anyone here can see for
themselves
that
you
are full of ****. YOU said that they run the boat up on
the
beach
and
let the salvager's have at it. That is a damned LIE. IF
they
did
that,
they'd have more lawsuits, criminal charges, and
environmental
citations than they knew what to do with.


Why would they have criminal charges. They own the
beach,
they
own
the boat
(mechanics lien), and what is enviromentally pooched?

Jeez, you are dumb, Bill. It doesn't matter who owns the
beach.
That
doesn't give them a right to dump boats there.
There are very strict environmental laws dealing with
illegal
dumping
in CA waters, regardless of whether it actually causes
environmental
harm. I suggest you read your own state's laws before
commenting
further, your looking like an ass. Now, let me check my
email
and
see
if Pillar point has gotten back to me yet. If so, I'll post
it
here, so
you can, again, be wrong.


Temporary beaching is allowed you doofus. And the beaching
is
only
temporary. The beach is normally nice a clean of boats.
Lots of
bird poop,
etc. Damn you show you show your stupidity. And where are
you
registered
as a PE Kevin?

Uh, you dumb ass, again, I've shown you SEVERAL laws where
abandoning
watercraft in CA waters is illegal. Please show me ONE where it
IS
legal. Can you? Now, "temporary beaching" is fine. BUT,
temporary
beaching isn't what you've suggested that the marinas there are
doing.
YOU said that they beach the boats, and let the salvagers have
at
them.
That, is not temporary. Again, show me a law that says that it
is
legal. You can't, because there is none. I've shown, and found
pages
and pages of CA law that says that it is ILLEGAL. The proof is
in
the
pudding, as they say, and I've shown ALL of the proof here in
this
argument, and you've shown NONE. I'm awaiting Pillar Point's
official
word on the matter, and I'll post it here, so we'll KNOW who's
stupid.
Speaking of stupid, I'm not Kevin, and I'm registered in
several
states.


Registered as a sex offender does not count. As I stated they
let
the
salvagers at the boat and the remains are then sent to the
landfill.
Where
is that abandoning the boat on the beach. Abandoning

Still haven't heard back from Pillar Point. My bet is that they
don't
think it's a serious email, that someone could actually believe
that
they do such a thing that violates several laws.


They probably heard of the you "king of newsgroup idiots"

Bill, you're the idiot. YOU are the ONLY ONE HERE who thinks that a
marina dumps boats on the beach for the salvagers, and that it isn't
against several state laws to do so.

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I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am
registered in
several
states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon
boats in
CA.
And
it
is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let
the
salvagers
have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just
dumb.
Now,
IF
they
are
doing as you said, they are also violating
your
states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about
environmental
issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he
can't
tell
me
that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against
state
laws
and
statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are
putting it
in
temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can
let
all
the
salvagers
they want at the boat.

Oh, NOW they are putting it in "temporary storage,
huh?
Please,
I've
asked before, give the number of the marina that is
doing
this.
I'd
like to talk to them. I'll give a full report,
including
the
name
of
the person I talk to, so anyone here can see for
themselves
that
you
are full of ****. YOU said that they run the boat up
on the
beach
and
let the salvager's have at it. That is a damned LIE.
IF
they
did
that,
they'd have more lawsuits, criminal charges, and
environmental
citations than they knew what to do with.


Why would they have criminal charges. They own the
beach,
they
own
the boat
(mechanics lien), and what is enviromentally pooched?

Jeez, you are dumb, Bill. It doesn't matter who owns the
beach.
That
doesn't give them a right to dump boats there.
There are very strict environmental laws dealing with
illegal
dumping
in CA waters, regardless of whether it actually causes
environmental
harm. I suggest you read your own state's laws before
commenting
further, your looking like an ass. Now, let me check my
email
and
see
if Pillar point has gotten back to me yet. If so, I'll
post it
here, so
you can, again, be wrong.


Temporary beaching is allowed you doofus. And the beaching
is
only
temporary. The beach is normally nice a clean of boats.
Lots of
bird poop,
etc. Damn you show you show your stupidity. And where are
you
registered
as a PE Kevin?

Uh, you dumb ass, again, I've shown you SEVERAL laws where
abandoning
watercraft in CA waters is illegal. Please show me ONE where
it IS
legal. Can you? Now, "temporary beaching" is fine. BUT,
temporary
beaching isn't what you've suggested that the marinas there
are
doing.
YOU said that they beach the boats, and let the salvagers have
at
them.
That, is not temporary. Again, show me a law that says that it
is
legal. You can't, because there is none. I've shown, and found
pages
and pages of CA law that says that it is ILLEGAL. The proof is
in
the
pudding, as they say, and I've shown ALL of the proof here in
this
argument, and you've shown NONE. I'm awaiting Pillar Point's
official
word on the matter, and I'll post it here, so we'll KNOW who's
stupid.
Speaking of stupid, I'm not Kevin, and I'm registered in
several
states.


Registered as a sex offender does not count. As I stated they
let
the
salvagers at the boat and the remains are then sent to the
landfill.
Where
is that abandoning the boat on the beach. Abandoning

Still haven't heard back from Pillar Point. My bet is that they
don't
think it's a serious email, that someone could actually believe
that
they do such a thing that violates several laws.


They probably heard of the you "king of newsgroup idiots"

It would certain come across in his writing :-)

Well, Paul, would YOU like to show me where it's legal in CA to dispose
of boats by beaching them, and let the salvagers take what they want?
Hmmm? I know, you won't answer the question, because you can't. Ask
your wife to. Oh, forgot, she likes men, not children, so she's gone.

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Where is the boat abandoned?

Have another brewski, Bile.



When you going to get those orphan children in South East
Asia?
You

still

in NAMBLA?


Keep on drinking, Bile.


I guess I hit close to home.



Well, since you are a drunk and are mentally impaired, you're
entitled
to your alcohol-induced guesses.

Have another brewski, Bile.

Get your meds renewed Harry. You are going off the deep end.
You
been
pushed over the edge, by the election results? And as to
drinking, I
think
it was before Christmas when I last drank, except for some nice
wine
with
Christmas and New Years dinner. You should not drink, Harry,
when on
medicine. The alcohol acts as a solvent and increases the
dosage you
receive.

Hey, Bill, have you found any resources for me detailing how to
legally
abandon watercraft in CA waters?


Hey, doofus. Show me where the harbor district abandons the boat.

Cripes.....asslicker is dumber than a tree stump.

Think so, huh? Well, here is the email that I sent, with their reply:


Hello, a person on a newsgroup has said that when someone doesn't pay
their slip fees, or abandon a boat in your marina, that you simply tow
it up on the beach and let the salvagers have at it. His exact words
a

"At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and dead beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach and let the
salvagers go at them."

Is this true? I have looked up California law concerning abandoning
boats in this manner, and have found out that it is illegal. It is also
a violation of CA environmental law, so I find it hard to believe that
you practice this illegally, if at all. I'd like to know that if you
do, how is it done legally? I will be awaiting your reply, thank you.

Sir,
Please rest assured that this practice is not done at Pillar Point, or
any other marina operated by San Mateo county. Our county prides itself
on being in the forefront of environmental regulation, and to do
anything such as you have described above would, as you have stated,
not only be illegal under California criminal statutes, but also under
the strict guidelines of our state's environmental laws. There is an
area that is commonly referred to as the box. This area is where we put
watercraft to hold, that are grossly delinquent in fees. This area is
not, however, a salvage area. We hold the watercraft in this area until
either payments have been satisfied, or liens are in place. In the
worst case, if liens are intact, we dispose of the boats in a legal
manner. This usually involves selling either at auction, or to licensed
salvagers. Thank you for your interest.