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Calif Bill wrote:


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach inside
the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not get into
the
water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up in paper
work
a
couple of times over.

Perhaps you should take a look at the laws of your own state
regarding
such issues. Start with AB 1014

Task Force- Prevention of Abandoned Boats - RBOC is following-up on
the
provisions of AB 1014 [Canciamilla, Chapter 357, Statutes of 2003],
legislation the organization sponsored in an effort to develop
strategies to prevent recreational vessels from being abandoned and
to
facilitate the ability of owners to turn in their recreational
vessels
to public agencies for disposal in lieu of abandonment.



Under AB 1014, the Department of Boating and Waterways is
convening,
an "abandoned vessel advisory committee" to assist in this effort.
RBOC is participating on the committee.


What about this Assembly Bill contravenes The getting rid of an
abandoned
boat by the harbor? They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers
strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.

IT'S ****ING ILLEGAL TO DISPOSE OF BOATS IN THIS MANNER.......
Read you own damned state laws, for God's sake. IF you were to take a
look, you'd find, by doing a simple search like I did, no less than 100
laws pertaining DIRECTLY to the abandonment of recreational vessels.


Where is the boat abandoned by the harbor district? Better get hold of
yourself, you may explode.

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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach
inside
the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not get
into
the
water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up in
paper
work
a
couple of times over.

Perhaps you should take a look at the laws of your own state
regarding
such issues. Start with AB 1014

Task Force- Prevention of Abandoned Boats - RBOC is
following-up on
the
provisions of AB 1014 [Canciamilla, Chapter 357, Statutes of
2003],
legislation the organization sponsored in an effort to develop
strategies to prevent recreational vessels from being abandoned
and
to
facilitate the ability of owners to turn in their recreational
vessels
to public agencies for disposal in lieu of abandonment.



Under AB 1014, the Department of Boating and Waterways is
convening,
an "abandoned vessel advisory committee" to assist in this
effort.
RBOC is participating on the committee.


What about this Assembly Bill contravenes The getting rid of an
abandoned
boat by the harbor? They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers
strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.

IT'S ****ING ILLEGAL TO DISPOSE OF BOATS IN THIS MANNER.......
Read you own damned state laws, for God's sake. IF you were to take
a
look, you'd find, by doing a simple search like I did, no less than
100
laws pertaining DIRECTLY to the abandonment of recreational
vessels.


Where is the boat abandoned by the harbor district? Better get hold
of
yourself, you may explode.

Oh, holy ****, Bill!!!! You need to learn to read. Again, it is illegal
to abandon recreational boats anywhere in CA. jeez. If I do the simple
****ing google search FOR you, will you then realize, and admit that
you are wrong as can be?

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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach
inside
the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not get
into
the
water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up in
paper
work
a
couple of times over.

Perhaps you should take a look at the laws of your own state
regarding
such issues. Start with AB 1014

Task Force- Prevention of Abandoned Boats - RBOC is
following-up on
the
provisions of AB 1014 [Canciamilla, Chapter 357, Statutes of
2003],
legislation the organization sponsored in an effort to develop
strategies to prevent recreational vessels from being abandoned
and
to
facilitate the ability of owners to turn in their recreational
vessels
to public agencies for disposal in lieu of abandonment.



Under AB 1014, the Department of Boating and Waterways is
convening,
an "abandoned vessel advisory committee" to assist in this
effort.
RBOC is participating on the committee.


What about this Assembly Bill contravenes The getting rid of an
abandoned
boat by the harbor? They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers
strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.

IT'S ****ING ILLEGAL TO DISPOSE OF BOATS IN THIS MANNER.......
Read you own damned state laws, for God's sake. IF you were to take
a
look, you'd find, by doing a simple search like I did, no less than
100
laws pertaining DIRECTLY to the abandonment of recreational
vessels.


Where is the boat abandoned by the harbor district? Better get hold
of
yourself, you may explode.

Oh, holy ****, Bill!!!! You need to learn to read. Again, it is illegal
to abandon recreational boats anywhere in CA. jeez. If I do the simple
****ing google search FOR you, will you then realize, and admit that
you are wrong as can be?


I repeat "Where is the boat abandoned by the harbor district? Better get
hold of yourself, you may explode."

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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach
inside
the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not
get
into
the
water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up
in
paper
work
a
couple of times over.

Perhaps you should take a look at the laws of your own
state
regarding
such issues. Start with AB 1014

Task Force- Prevention of Abandoned Boats - RBOC is
following-up on
the
provisions of AB 1014 [Canciamilla, Chapter 357, Statutes
of
2003],
legislation the organization sponsored in an effort to
develop
strategies to prevent recreational vessels from being
abandoned
and
to
facilitate the ability of owners to turn in their
recreational
vessels
to public agencies for disposal in lieu of abandonment.



Under AB 1014, the Department of Boating and Waterways is
convening,
an "abandoned vessel advisory committee" to assist in this
effort.
RBOC is participating on the committee.


What about this Assembly Bill contravenes The getting rid of
an
abandoned
boat by the harbor? They drag it up on the beach, the
salvagers
strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land
fill.

IT'S ****ING ILLEGAL TO DISPOSE OF BOATS IN THIS MANNER.......
Read you own damned state laws, for God's sake. IF you were to
take
a
look, you'd find, by doing a simple search like I did, no less
than
100
laws pertaining DIRECTLY to the abandonment of recreational
vessels.


Where is the boat abandoned by the harbor district? Better get
hold
of
yourself, you may explode.

Oh, holy ****, Bill!!!! You need to learn to read. Again, it is
illegal
to abandon recreational boats anywhere in CA. jeez. If I do the
simple
****ing google search FOR you, will you then realize, and admit
that
you are wrong as can be?


I repeat "Where is the boat abandoned by the harbor district? Better
get
hold of yourself, you may explode."

And you repeat your stupidity!!! Where in the above does it state
anything about a boat "abandoned by the harbor district"? It DOESN'T
you dummy!! A boat "abandoned by the harbor", has a completly different
meaning. Now, again, I can show you NO LESS than 100 laws pertaining to
the ILLEGAL abandonment of watercraft in the state of CA. I challenge
you to show me ONE piece of written LEGAL precedent that shows that it
is, in fact legal to abandon boats in the state of CA. CAN YOU?

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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message

roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to trash
it.
it is
a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a long
time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working
anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in the Bay
Area)

Can anyone point me to a a


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yard/a
or
who or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old boat
that I
had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't donate
it.
What
to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For
Sale"
sign
on it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I
"accepted" an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans out
his
yard
of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or boats
just
left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore. He
sells
the
ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when this
happens
-
he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the
abandoned
and
dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the
beach
and
let
the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know that's
not
true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place that
would
prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that the
boats
don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat out
of
your
yard
and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in some
states if
the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight.

That doesn't mean they can destroy it, or allow others to
destroy
it.

And the harbor district
has a perfectly legal right to do this.

Proof?

You do not pay your slip rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat.

Are you trying to say that having a lien on someone's
property
means
"they own" it??????

And after the salvagers get
through, there is very little to tow off to the landfill.
Works
well.

So, let me get this straight. You claim that the marina now
owns
the
boat, right? But, instead of selling it and making money
from
it,
they
decide to let salvagers make the money????? How stupid are
you,
Bill?


Look at the post from the guy trying to get rid of a Coronado
27
from
his
slip. People do not want to buy these boats, and if you tie
up
the
slip for
6 months trying to sell the boat for $1000 and the slip
rental is
worth $500
a month, How much money has the Harbor District made?

Here's an idea. SELL it to the salvagers. You then, at the very
least,
a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=make%20up"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=make%20up"
onmouseover="window.status='make up'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"make up/a'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"make up/a some of the
lose you've incurred. Do you think that the marina
actually WANTS to lose money? Do you think that the C.F.O. of
that
marina would say, hey, we can either lose $1000 dollars, or we
can
lose
$500, I think that we should lose the entire $1000????


Not enough profit in the boat to also have to pay for it. The
Sacramento
Delta is littered with abandoned boats. Some are even large
barges.
Enviromental disasters waiting. The Counties spend millions
trying
to get
rid of them. So you think they are going to tie up a $500 /
month
slip for
2 months on the bet that the boat might be sold for $1000? I can
see
why
you are not wealthy.

And I can see why you are a handy man.


And a really good handyman. And not broke.

There's a lot of people in this country who aren't "broke". Now, how do
you know that I'm "not wealthy", Bill? Please, tell the group what you
know of my income, investments, stocks, retirement portfolios, etc.


Assuming your work is like your language and the argumentive posting, I
have
to assume you are not high up the food chain.


He recently bragged about having paid off his house........worst investment
you can make. Just more evidence that he is all blow and no dough.

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wrote in
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...
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message


roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to
trash
it.
it is
a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a
long
time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working
anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth
anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in
the Bay
Area)

Can anyone point me to a a


href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a


href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

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true;"
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yard/a';
return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk
yard/a
or
who or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old
boat
that I
had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't
donate
it.
What
to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For
Sale"
sign
on it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I
"accepted" an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans
out
his
yard
of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or
boats
just
left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore.
He
sells
the
ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when
this
happens
-
he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on
them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the
abandoned
and
dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on
the
beach
and
let
the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know
that's
not
true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place
that
would
prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that
the
boats
don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat
out
of
your
yard
and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in
some
states if
the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight.

That doesn't mean they can destroy it, or allow others
to
destroy
it.

And the harbor district
has a perfectly legal right to do this.

Proof?

You do not pay your slip rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat.

Are you trying to say that having a lien on someone's
property
means
"they own" it??????

And after the salvagers get
through, there is very little to tow off to the
landfill.
Works
well.

So, let me get this straight. You claim that the
marina now
owns
the
boat, right? But, instead of selling it and making
money
from
it,
they
decide to let salvagers make the money????? How stupid
are
you,
Bill?


Look at the post from the guy trying to get rid of a
Coronado
27
from
his
slip. People do not want to buy these boats, and if you
tie
up
the
slip for
6 months trying to sell the boat for $1000 and the slip
rental is
worth $500
a month, How much money has the Harbor District made?

Here's an idea. SELL it to the salvagers. You then, at the
very
least,
a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=make%20up"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=make%20up"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=make%20up"
onmouseover="window.status='make up'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"make up/a'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"make up/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"make up/a some
of the
lose you've incurred. Do you think that the marina
actually WANTS to lose money? Do you think that the C.F.O.
of
that
marina would say, hey, we can either lose $1000 dollars,
or we
can
lose
$500, I think that we should lose the entire $1000????


Not enough profit in the boat to also have to pay for it.
The
Sacramento
Delta is littered with abandoned boats. Some are even large
barges.
Enviromental disasters waiting. The Counties spend millions
trying
to get
rid of them. So you think they are going to tie up a $500 /
month
slip for
2 months on the bet that the boat might be sold for $1000?
I can
see
why
you are not wealthy.

And I can see why you are a handy man.


And a really good handyman. And not broke.

There's a lot of people in this country who aren't "broke". Now,
how do
you know that I'm "not wealthy", Bill? Please, tell the group what
you
know of my income, investments, stocks, retirement portfolios,
etc.


Assuming your work is like your language and the argumentive
posting, I
have
to assume you are not high up the food chain.


He recently bragged about having paid off his house........worst
investment
you can make. Just more evidence that he is all blow and no dough.

Really? Being debt free is a "bad investment"????
Now, back to the task at hand, Paul. YOU seem to want to interject
something into this thread. Perhaps you can show me ONE PIECE of LEGAL
work that says it's legal to abandon watercraft in CA. Can you? I can
show you more than 100 documents proving it is entirely ILLEGAL, with
one simple search.

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Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach
inside
the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not
get
into
the
water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up
in
paper
work
a
couple of times over.

Perhaps you should take a look at the laws of your own
state
regarding
such issues. Start with AB 1014

Task Force- Prevention of Abandoned Boats - RBOC is
following-up on
the
provisions of AB 1014 [Canciamilla, Chapter 357, Statutes
of
2003],
legislation the organization sponsored in an effort to
develop
strategies to prevent recreational vessels from being
abandoned
and
to
facilitate the ability of owners to turn in their
recreational
vessels
to public agencies for disposal in lieu of abandonment.



Under AB 1014, the Department of Boating and Waterways is
convening,
an "abandoned vessel advisory committee" to assist in this
effort.
RBOC is participating on the committee.


What about this Assembly Bill contravenes The getting rid of
an
abandoned
boat by the harbor? They drag it up on the beach, the
salvagers
strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land
fill.

IT'S ****ING ILLEGAL TO DISPOSE OF BOATS IN THIS MANNER.......
Read you own damned state laws, for God's sake. IF you were to
take
a
look, you'd find, by doing a simple search like I did, no less
than
100
laws pertaining DIRECTLY to the abandonment of recreational
vessels.


Where is the boat abandoned by the harbor district? Better get
hold
of
yourself, you may explode.

Oh, holy ****, Bill!!!! You need to learn to read. Again, it is
illegal
to abandon recreational boats anywhere in CA. jeez. If I do the
simple
****ing google search FOR you, will you then realize, and admit
that
you are wrong as can be?


I repeat "Where is the boat abandoned by the harbor district? Better
get
hold of yourself, you may explode."

And you repeat your stupidity!!! Where in the above does it state
anything about a boat "abandoned by the harbor district"? It DOESN'T
you dummy!! A boat "abandoned by the harbor", has a completly different
meaning. Now, again, I can show you NO LESS than 100 laws pertaining to
the ILLEGAL abandonment of watercraft in the state of CA. I challenge
you to show me ONE piece of written LEGAL precedent that shows that it
is, in fact legal to abandon boats in the state of CA. CAN YOU?


Where is the boat abandoned?

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Where is the boat abandoned?

Have another brewski, Bile.


When you going to get those orphan children in South East Asia? You still
in NAMBLA?

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Calif Bill wrote:

did your wife and kids leave you? Did the dog pee on your leg? You
MUST be
a total wreck, if, just because your wife left you, or dog peed on your
leg,
your life fell apart that bad. It's just too bad that you can't act like
an
adult.

Uh, maybe you better cut back on the brewskis for today, Bile...
You present as a Miller Lite or Bud Lite kinda guy...


When you going to get those orphan children in South East Asia? You still
in NAMBLA?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:


Where is the boat abandoned?

Have another brewski, Bile.



When you going to get those orphan children in South East Asia? You
still
in NAMBLA?


Keep on drinking, Bile.

I guess I hit close to home.