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P.Fritz December 23rd 04 08:08 PM


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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message

roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to trash it. it is

a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a long time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in the Bay Area)

Can anyone point me to a a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='junk yard'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a or

who or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old boat that I had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't donate it. What

to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For Sale" sign

on it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I "accepted" an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans out his yard

of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or boats just

left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore. He sells the

ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when this happens -

he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and

dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach and

let
the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know that's not

true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place that would

prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that the boats

don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat out of your

yard
and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in some states if

the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight.

That doesn't mean they can destroy it, or allow others to destroy

it.

And the harbor district
has a perfectly legal right to do this.

Proof?

You do not pay your slip rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat.

Are you trying to say that having a lien on someone's property

means
"they own" it??????

And after the salvagers get
through, there is very little to tow off to the landfill. Works
well.

So, let me get this straight. You claim that the marina now owns

the
boat, right? But, instead of selling it and making money from it,

they
decide to let salvagers make the money????? How stupid are you,

Bill?


Look at the post from the guy trying to get rid of a Coronado 27 from

his
slip. People do not want to buy these boats, and if you tie up the

slip for
6 months trying to sell the boat for $1000 and the slip rental is

worth $500
a month, How much money has the Harbor District made?


Here's an idea. SELL it to the salvagers. You then, at the very least,
make up some of the lose you've incurred. Do you think that the marina
actually WANTS to lose money? Do you think that the C.F.O. of that
marina would say, hey, we can either lose $1000 dollars, or we can lose
$500, I think that we should lose the entire $1000????


Not enough profit in the boat to also have to pay for it. The Sacramento
Delta is littered with abandoned boats. Some are even large barges.
Enviromental disasters waiting. The Counties spend millions trying to get
rid of them. So you think they are going to tie up a $500 / month slip
for
2 months on the bet that the boat might be sold for $1000? I can see why
you are not wealthy.


No kidding, by the time you advertise it, have someone deal with the
paperwork etc, the $500 is spent again........

Asslicker must have never heard the phrase "Spent a dollar to save a dime"






P.Fritz December 23rd 04 08:12 PM


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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message

roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to trash it. it

is a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a long time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in the Bay Area)

Can anyone point me to a a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='junk yard'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a or

who or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old boat that I

had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't donate it. What

to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For Sale" sign

on it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I "accepted"

an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans out his yard

of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or boats just

left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore. He sells the

ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when this happens -

he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and

dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach

and let
the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know that's not

true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place that would

prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that the boats

don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat out of your

yard
and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in some states

if the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight.

That doesn't mean they can destroy it, or allow others to destroy

it.

And the harbor district
has a perfectly legal right to do this.

Proof?

You do not pay your slip rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat.

Are you trying to say that having a lien on someone's property

means
"they own" it??????

And after the salvagers get
through, there is very little to tow off to the landfill. Works
well.

So, let me get this straight. You claim that the marina now owns

the
boat, right? But, instead of selling it and making money from it,

they
decide to let salvagers make the money????? How stupid are you,

Bill?


Look at the post from the guy trying to get rid of a Coronado 27

from his
slip. People do not want to buy these boats, and if you tie up the

slip
for
6 months trying to sell the boat for $1000 and the slip rental is

worth
$500
a month, How much money has the Harbor District made?

Asslicker once again proves he is the King of the NG idiots. Hell,

even
summer storage around here runs 300-400 a month on land for an

average size
boat.....asslicker would probably think it is worthwile venure to pay

a
marine mechanic $40 hour for 3 days to salvage $60.00 worth of parts.

What
a mar00n


Jesus you are stupid!!!!!! So, do tell, if the marina runs the boat
aground, how do the salvagers get paid their $40 an hour THEN???? You
dumb ****, the salvagers make their money from the parts, hence
*salvage*. Now, let's say that the overdue slip fees are $1000 dollars.
Let's say that a salvager can make $500 off of the parts. Let's say the
salvager will pay, say $100 for the boat. He nets $400, the marina
incurs a loss of $900 as opposed to $1000. Which do you think the
marina will do?
Now, what really shoots Calif. Bills diatribe full of holes, is the
fact that the agencies in charge wouldn't ever let a marina just dump
boats on the beach. That is pure bull****. If you can provide some
proof that that is happening, do so. If not, quit being an annoying
little **** ant.


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach inside the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not get into the water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up in paper work a
couple of times over.


It is pretty funny to watch asslicker stomp his feet and bellow when he
thinks he knows what he is talking about, when in reality he doesn't have a
clue.









basskisser January 3rd 05 02:26 PM


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Calif Bill wrote:
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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message

roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to trash it.

it
is a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a long

time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in the Bay

Area)

Can anyone point me to a a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='junk yard'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a';

return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a

or
who
or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old boat that

I
had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't donate it.

What
to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For Sale"

sign
on
it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I

"accepted"
an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans out his

yard
of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or boats

just
left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore. He sells

the
ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when this

happens -
he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned

and
dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the

beach
and
let the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know that's not

true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place that would

prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that the boats

don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat out of

your
yard and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in some

states
if
the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight. And the

harbor
district
has a perfectly legal right to do this. You do not pay

your
slip
rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat. And after

the
salvagers
get
through, there is very little to tow off to the landfill.

Works
well.

Asslicker is once again showing why he retains his title of

King
of
the NG
idiots. Anybody with an IQ in double digits knows that a

marina
can
slap a
lien on your boat if you don't pay your bills, and can end up

with
ownership
shortly thereafter.....depending on the particular state's

law.

A lien can take YEARS to clear up for you to gain ownership.

Okay,
now,
let's say that happens. Do you HONESTLY think that a marina,

that
OWNS
that boat, will now let salvagers make money off of it, instead

of
THEM
selling it to recoup their loses?????? That is just plain

idiotic.


If you have a mechanics lien, it will be as little as 30 days.

And
for the
harbor district to make money from a junker boat? How much labor

are
they
going to have to invest? Much easier and very little money loss

to
the
harbor district to have the salvagers dismantle the boat. And

the
salvagers
normally as a courtesy take the remains to the landfill. Keeps

good
relations with the harbor.


OH, so, now you are saying that every boat that is in that harbor,

that
hasn't paid their slip fees are junk boats? No one with a boat that

is
of any value is ever delinquent on their slip fees? And, again, you

are
telling me that the marina would rather NOT recoup their loses????


I can not believe you are that stupid. . . The fees go unpaid for 6

months
to a year. The boat is not worth much, so how is the harbor going to

recoup
some of their losses by tieing up the slip for another 6 months to a

year
while trying to sell a boat for $1-2k? When the slip is worth $4-500

a
month. Look at all the sales of storage unit contents if you do not

think
that not paying your rent still prevents you from losing your stuff.


So are you saying that the governing agencies in CA tolerate illegal
dumping, tolerate pollution, and tolerate criminal acts if and when a
marina can show that they didn't make a profit?????? And, are you
further saying that, because the salvagers show "courtesy", that the
governing agencies allow them to profit illegally?


basskisser January 3rd 05 02:27 PM


Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing"

wrote in
message
...
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message

roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to trash it.

it is
a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a long

time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in the Bay

Area)

Can anyone point me to a a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='junk yard'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a';

return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a

or
who or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old boat that I

had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't donate it.

What
to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For Sale"

sign
on it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I

"accepted" an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans out his

yard
of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or boats

just
left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore. He sells

the
ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when this happens

-
he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned

and
dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach

and
let
the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know that's not

true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place that would

prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that the boats

don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat out of

your
yard
and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in some

states if
the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight.

That doesn't mean they can destroy it, or allow others to

destroy
it.

And the harbor district
has a perfectly legal right to do this.

Proof?

You do not pay your slip rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat.

Are you trying to say that having a lien on someone's property

means
"they own" it??????

And after the salvagers get
through, there is very little to tow off to the landfill.

Works
well.

So, let me get this straight. You claim that the marina now

owns
the
boat, right? But, instead of selling it and making money from

it,
they
decide to let salvagers make the money????? How stupid are you,

Bill?


Look at the post from the guy trying to get rid of a Coronado 27

from
his
slip. People do not want to buy these boats, and if you tie up

the
slip for
6 months trying to sell the boat for $1000 and the slip rental is

worth $500
a month, How much money has the Harbor District made?


Here's an idea. SELL it to the salvagers. You then, at the very

least,
a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=make%20up"

onmouseover="window.status='make up'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"make up/a some of the
lose you've incurred. Do you think that the marina
actually WANTS to lose money? Do you think that the C.F.O. of that
marina would say, hey, we can either lose $1000 dollars, or we can

lose
$500, I think that we should lose the entire $1000????


Not enough profit in the boat to also have to pay for it. The

Sacramento
Delta is littered with abandoned boats. Some are even large barges.
Enviromental disasters waiting. The Counties spend millions trying

to get
rid of them. So you think they are going to tie up a $500 / month

slip for
2 months on the bet that the boat might be sold for $1000? I can see

why
you are not wealthy.


And I can see why you are a handy man.


basskisser January 3rd 05 05:51 PM


Calif Bill wrote:


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach inside the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not get into the

water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up in paper work

a
couple of times over.


Perhaps you should take a look at the laws of your own state regarding
such issues. Start with AB 1014

Task Force- Prevention of Abandoned Boats - RBOC is following-up on the
provisions of AB 1014 [Canciamilla, Chapter 357, Statutes of 2003],
legislation the organization sponsored in an effort to develop
strategies to prevent recreational vessels from being abandoned and to
facilitate the ability of owners to turn in their recreational vessels
to public agencies for disposal in lieu of abandonment.



Under AB 1014, the Department of Boating and Waterways is convening,
an "abandoned vessel advisory committee" to assist in this effort.
RBOC is participating on the committee.


Calif Bill January 3rd 05 08:16 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing"

wrote in
message
...
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message

roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to trash it.

it is
a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a long

time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in the Bay

Area)

Can anyone point me to a a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='junk yard'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a';

return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a

or
who or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old boat that I

had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't donate it.

What
to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For Sale"

sign
on it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I

"accepted" an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans out his

yard
of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or boats

just
left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore. He sells

the
ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when this happens

-
he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned

and
dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach

and
let
the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know that's not
true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place that would
prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that the boats
don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat out of

your
yard
and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in some

states if
the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight.

That doesn't mean they can destroy it, or allow others to

destroy
it.

And the harbor district
has a perfectly legal right to do this.

Proof?

You do not pay your slip rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat.

Are you trying to say that having a lien on someone's property
means
"they own" it??????

And after the salvagers get
through, there is very little to tow off to the landfill.

Works
well.

So, let me get this straight. You claim that the marina now

owns
the
boat, right? But, instead of selling it and making money from

it,
they
decide to let salvagers make the money????? How stupid are you,
Bill?


Look at the post from the guy trying to get rid of a Coronado 27

from
his
slip. People do not want to buy these boats, and if you tie up

the
slip for
6 months trying to sell the boat for $1000 and the slip rental is
worth $500
a month, How much money has the Harbor District made?

Here's an idea. SELL it to the salvagers. You then, at the very

least,
a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=make%20up"

onmouseover="window.status='make up'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"make up/a some of the
lose you've incurred. Do you think that the marina
actually WANTS to lose money? Do you think that the C.F.O. of that
marina would say, hey, we can either lose $1000 dollars, or we can

lose
$500, I think that we should lose the entire $1000????


Not enough profit in the boat to also have to pay for it. The

Sacramento
Delta is littered with abandoned boats. Some are even large barges.
Enviromental disasters waiting. The Counties spend millions trying

to get
rid of them. So you think they are going to tie up a $500 / month

slip for
2 months on the bet that the boat might be sold for $1000? I can see

why
you are not wealthy.


And I can see why you are a handy man.


And a really good handyman. And not broke.



Calif Bill January 3rd 05 08:19 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach inside the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not get into the

water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up in paper work

a
couple of times over.


Perhaps you should take a look at the laws of your own state regarding
such issues. Start with AB 1014

Task Force- Prevention of Abandoned Boats - RBOC is following-up on the
provisions of AB 1014 [Canciamilla, Chapter 357, Statutes of 2003],
legislation the organization sponsored in an effort to develop
strategies to prevent recreational vessels from being abandoned and to
facilitate the ability of owners to turn in their recreational vessels
to public agencies for disposal in lieu of abandonment.



Under AB 1014, the Department of Boating and Waterways is convening,
an "abandoned vessel advisory committee" to assist in this effort.
RBOC is participating on the committee.


What about this Assembly Bill contravenes The getting rid of an abandoned
boat by the harbor? They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.



basskisser January 4th 05 12:21 PM


Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach inside

the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not get into

the
water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up in paper

work
a
couple of times over.


Perhaps you should take a look at the laws of your own state

regarding
such issues. Start with AB 1014

Task Force- Prevention of Abandoned Boats - RBOC is following-up on

the
provisions of AB 1014 [Canciamilla, Chapter 357, Statutes of 2003],
legislation the organization sponsored in an effort to develop
strategies to prevent recreational vessels from being abandoned and

to
facilitate the ability of owners to turn in their recreational

vessels
to public agencies for disposal in lieu of abandonment.



Under AB 1014, the Department of Boating and Waterways is

convening,
an "abandoned vessel advisory committee" to assist in this effort.
RBOC is participating on the committee.


What about this Assembly Bill contravenes The getting rid of an

abandoned
boat by the harbor? They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers

strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.


IT'S ****ING ILLEGAL TO DISPOSE OF BOATS IN THIS MANNER.......
Read you own damned state laws, for God's sake. IF you were to take a
look, you'd find, by doing a simple search like I did, no less than 100
laws pertaining DIRECTLY to the abandonment of recreational vessels.


basskisser January 4th 05 12:23 PM


Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing"

wrote in
message
...
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message

roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to trash

it.
it is
a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a long

time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working

anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in the Bay

Area)

Can anyone point me to a a


href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='junk yard'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a';

return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a';

return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk

yard/a
or
who or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old boat

that I
had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't donate

it.
What
to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For

Sale"
sign
on it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I

"accepted" an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans out

his
yard
of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or boats

just
left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore. He

sells
the
ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when this

happens
-
he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the

abandoned
and
dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the

beach
and
let
the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know that's

not
true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place that

would
prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that the

boats
don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat out

of
your
yard
and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in some

states if
the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight.

That doesn't mean they can destroy it, or allow others to

destroy
it.

And the harbor district
has a perfectly legal right to do this.

Proof?

You do not pay your slip rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat.

Are you trying to say that having a lien on someone's

property
means
"they own" it??????

And after the salvagers get
through, there is very little to tow off to the landfill.

Works
well.

So, let me get this straight. You claim that the marina now

owns
the
boat, right? But, instead of selling it and making money

from
it,
they
decide to let salvagers make the money????? How stupid are

you,
Bill?


Look at the post from the guy trying to get rid of a Coronado

27
from
his
slip. People do not want to buy these boats, and if you tie

up
the
slip for
6 months trying to sell the boat for $1000 and the slip

rental is
worth $500
a month, How much money has the Harbor District made?

Here's an idea. SELL it to the salvagers. You then, at the very

least,
a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=make%20up"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=make%20up"
onmouseover="window.status='make up'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"make up/a'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"make up/a some of the
lose you've incurred. Do you think that the marina
actually WANTS to lose money? Do you think that the C.F.O. of

that
marina would say, hey, we can either lose $1000 dollars, or we

can
lose
$500, I think that we should lose the entire $1000????


Not enough profit in the boat to also have to pay for it. The

Sacramento
Delta is littered with abandoned boats. Some are even large

barges.
Enviromental disasters waiting. The Counties spend millions

trying
to get
rid of them. So you think they are going to tie up a $500 /

month
slip for
2 months on the bet that the boat might be sold for $1000? I can

see
why
you are not wealthy.


And I can see why you are a handy man.


And a really good handyman. And not broke.


There's a lot of people in this country who aren't "broke". Now, how do
you know that I'm "not wealthy", Bill? Please, tell the group what you
know of my income, investments, stocks, retirement portfolios, etc.


Calif Bill January 4th 05 09:08 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing"
wrote in
message
...
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message

roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to trash

it.
it is
a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a long
time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working

anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in the Bay
Area)

Can anyone point me to a a


href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='junk yard'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a';

return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk yard/a';
return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk

yard/a
or
who or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old boat

that I
had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't donate

it.
What
to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For

Sale"
sign
on it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I
"accepted" an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans out

his
yard
of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or boats
just
left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore. He

sells
the
ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when this

happens
-
he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the

abandoned
and
dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the

beach
and
let
the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know that's

not
true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place that

would
prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that the

boats
don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat out

of
your
yard
and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in some
states if
the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight.

That doesn't mean they can destroy it, or allow others to
destroy
it.

And the harbor district
has a perfectly legal right to do this.

Proof?

You do not pay your slip rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat.

Are you trying to say that having a lien on someone's

property
means
"they own" it??????

And after the salvagers get
through, there is very little to tow off to the landfill.
Works
well.

So, let me get this straight. You claim that the marina now
owns
the
boat, right? But, instead of selling it and making money

from
it,
they
decide to let salvagers make the money????? How stupid are

you,
Bill?


Look at the post from the guy trying to get rid of a Coronado

27
from
his
slip. People do not want to buy these boats, and if you tie

up
the
slip for
6 months trying to sell the boat for $1000 and the slip

rental is
worth $500
a month, How much money has the Harbor District made?

Here's an idea. SELL it to the salvagers. You then, at the very
least,
a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=make%20up"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=make%20up"
onmouseover="window.status='make up'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"make up/a'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"make up/a some of the
lose you've incurred. Do you think that the marina
actually WANTS to lose money? Do you think that the C.F.O. of

that
marina would say, hey, we can either lose $1000 dollars, or we

can
lose
$500, I think that we should lose the entire $1000????


Not enough profit in the boat to also have to pay for it. The
Sacramento
Delta is littered with abandoned boats. Some are even large

barges.
Enviromental disasters waiting. The Counties spend millions

trying
to get
rid of them. So you think they are going to tie up a $500 /

month
slip for
2 months on the bet that the boat might be sold for $1000? I can

see
why
you are not wealthy.

And I can see why you are a handy man.


And a really good handyman. And not broke.


There's a lot of people in this country who aren't "broke". Now, how do
you know that I'm "not wealthy", Bill? Please, tell the group what you
know of my income, investments, stocks, retirement portfolios, etc.


Assuming your work is like your language and the argumentive posting, I have
to assume you are not high up the food chain.




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