"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 07:49:35 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:02:21 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


Who has criticized the networks? Besides jps, that is. You mean to
say
that a decent movie about war can be made *without* foul language?

Save those facetious questions for someone else, John. Movies without
that
language were made at a point in history when the country was still
living a
fairy tale existence. But, they can still be historically accurate in
their
own way.


So you feel that when we lived in a time of greater respect, and
consideration for other people, and had better manners, that was
living a "fairy tale" existence?

You obviously are not well-read. The language to which you are objecting
has always been in use.

In use in places which were not considered "public". Hence the term
"locker room talk". It was considered extremely rude and impolite to
use such expletives in the presence of a lady (Of course, nowadays's,
females can trash talk with the worst of the gutter set)

All that really has happened is that much of
what is called "censorship" has been eliminated. In days of old, "cuss
words" were kept out of movies because of the censors, not because such
words were not being used in ordinary discourse.

If by "censors" you mean people who applied good manners, then I guess
you're right. If having respect and good manners is no longer
important, than I guess I can understand your desire to be able to
"let it all hang out" in public for all the world to see.....

This only underscores my point that class, respect, and desire for
civil discourse has eroded in this country.

Dave




Don't forget the censors who arranged for Dick Van Dyke and Mary Tyler Moore
to sleep in separate beds on TV. Same censors who prevented us from hearing
the word "pregnant" during the first 15 years or so of television's
existence.