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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:00:09 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:27:59 -0500, thunder wrote: On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:05:57 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: Hall, Herring, Hertvik, and the rest of the right-wing simpies are xenophobic in the extreme, and want to blame all our ills on immigrants, rather than our own failures as a society. Must have been a major influx of illegal aliens this past year. The new rankings are in, and we are not even in the top ten. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4020523.stm I wouldn't live in Ireland if you paid me. The food sucks, the weather sucks, you have to pay sixteen different agencies to get a freakin' fishing license (remind me to tell the story about Liam Neeson), the roads suck, you can't get a decent hotel room in Dublin, bums living in travel trailers along the sides of the major roads, TV is ridiculously lame, not to mention that they drive on the wrong side of the road in little teeny cars that are unfit for human use, everything is taxed twelve times over and all there is to see are wet green fields and big old stone buildings falling down all over the place. Oh, and the people talk funny. The herding dogs were cool though. You've not spent enough fine soft days in Ireland. It's a lovely country. My Irish bride and I stay in B&Bs, and find them a great way to not only get a nice room, but to meet nice people and pick up local color. And a good case of St. Patrick's Revenge which is was happened to me - twice. I'd never stay in a B&B ever again. No offense to your lovely bride. I've only watched a bit of the telly while in Ireland...no time or reason to spend time in front of the Boob Tube. And I did get to meet some great writers, include one or two that are almost famous. And I met a movie actor who actually is famous. :) There was nothing in Ireland that I would go back for on purpose except for the lovely, beautiful Border Collies. Later, Tom |
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 20:20:42 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:00:09 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:27:59 -0500, thunder wrote: On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:05:57 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: Hall, Herring, Hertvik, and the rest of the right-wing simpies are xenophobic in the extreme, and want to blame all our ills on immigrants, rather than our own failures as a society. Must have been a major influx of illegal aliens this past year. The new rankings are in, and we are not even in the top ten. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4020523.stm I wouldn't live in Ireland if you paid me. The food sucks, the weather sucks, you have to pay sixteen different agencies to get a freakin' fishing license (remind me to tell the story about Liam Neeson), the roads suck, you can't get a decent hotel room in Dublin, bums living in travel trailers along the sides of the major roads, TV is ridiculously lame, not to mention that they drive on the wrong side of the road in little teeny cars that are unfit for human use, everything is taxed twelve times over and all there is to see are wet green fields and big old stone buildings falling down all over the place. Oh, and the people talk funny. The herding dogs were cool though. You've not spent enough fine soft days in Ireland. It's a lovely country. My Irish bride and I stay in B&Bs, and find them a great way to not only get a nice room, but to meet nice people and pick up local color. And a good case of St. Patrick's Revenge which is was happened to me - twice. I'd never stay in a B&B ever again. No offense to your lovely bride. I've only watched a bit of the telly while in Ireland...no time or reason to spend time in front of the Boob Tube. And I did get to meet some great writers, include one or two that are almost famous. And I met a movie actor who actually is famous. :) There was nothing in Ireland that I would go back for on purpose except for the lovely, beautiful Border Collies. You can get one of those here. exactly. Later, Tom |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message news:S82dnc5qiZNLSwXcRVn- Norway tops UN quality-of-life index ... a United Nations study has ranked Norway as the best place to live in the world. .... the world's countries are ranked according to the Human Development Index, a system for determining standard of living. ...created the index in order to measure the extent of human development... order to reach the UN's Millennium Goals, countries must strive to become inclusive, culturally diverse societies. Millennium Goals .... the report shows how far the United Nations have come in implementing the Millennium Goals that were agreed upon in 2000. The top 20: 1. Norway 2. Sweden 3. Australia 4. Canada 5. Netherlands 6. Belgium 7. Iceland 8. United States 9. Japan 10. Ireland 11. Switzerland 12. Britain 13. Finland 14. Austria 15. Luxembourg 16. France 17. Denmark 18. New Zealand 19. Germany 20. Spain LOL Consider the source; ignore the blather. Query: What shall be deduced from the fact that Nos 1-7 on the list are all heavily socialistic in some or all aspects of their societal structure. Could the UN be using agenda-biased evaluation standards? Say it isn't so!! Query: Why is the USA still far and away the #1 preferred destination for immigrants? Is it possible that virtually the entire world population is truly stupid, and that the UN bureaucrats are the only smart ones? |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... John Gaquin wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message news:S82dnc5qiZNLSwXcRVn- Norway tops UN quality-of-life index ... a United Nations study has ranked Norway as the best place to live in the world. .... the world's countries are ranked according to the Human Development Index, a system for determining standard of living. ...created the index in order to measure the extent of human development... order to reach the UN's Millennium Goals, countries must strive to become inclusive, culturally diverse societies. Millennium Goals .... the report shows how far the United Nations have come in implementing the Millennium Goals that were agreed upon in 2000. The top 20: 1. Norway 2. Sweden 3. Australia 4. Canada 5. Netherlands 6. Belgium 7. Iceland 8. United States 9. Japan 10. Ireland 11. Switzerland 12. Britain 13. Finland 14. Austria 15. Luxembourg 16. France 17. Denmark 18. New Zealand 19. Germany 20. Spain LOL Consider the source; ignore the blather. Query: What shall be deduced from the fact that Nos 1-7 on the list are all heavily socialistic in some or all aspects of their societal structure. Could the UN be using agenda-biased evaluation standards? Say it isn't so!! The evaluation standards were published. They weren't "socialistic." And what, by the way, are socialistic standards? As just one example, virtually all western nations but the United States make health care readily available to all their people. Is that your criteria for socialism? Are you saying that the materialism that rules the United States is somehow better because it allows a larger but still tiny minority to become mutli-millionaires? Family values weighed heavily in this evaluation. Since 48% of America voted against family values in 2004, it's really no wonder that we didn't finish in the top 10. "Although rising incomes and expanded individual choices are highly valued," the report says, "some factors associated with modernisation, such as the breakdown of traditional institutions and the erosion of family values, in part offset its positive impact." Query: Why is the USA still far and away the #1 preferred destination for immigrants? The star of the United States is in decline. According to this survey, it's because of our "breakdown of traditional institutions" (ie--two-parent heterosexual homes), and our "erosion of family values". Wanna bet we're in the top 10 by the time Bush leaves office? The fact that it still attracts large numbers is a function of its former reputation and its size. The best and brightest of foreigners won't be coming here, and many who do come here leave to return to their homelands, which offer more opportunities and a safer environment. Is it possible that virtually the entire world population is truly stupid, and that the UN bureaucrats are the only smart ones? It's mostly the United States that seems to be acting stupid. I never thought that while I was watching the rise of the United States during my lifetime, I'd also see its decline. But I am. Then quit being so resistant to the loud message that the moral majority sent on November 2nd. |
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:20:25 -0500, NOYB wrote:
Family values weighed heavily in this evaluation. Since 48% of America voted against family values in 2004, it's really no wonder that we didn't finish in the top 10. Ah, the old "family values". The present George learned them from this George, who ran his campaign on "family values". Lip service, no more. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...12/55616.shtml |
"John Gaquin" wrote in message ...
"Harry Krause" wrote in message news:S82dnc5qiZNLSwXcRVn- The top 20: 1. Norway 2. Sweden 3. Australia 4. Canada 5. Netherlands 6. Belgium 7. Iceland 8. United States 9. Japan 10. Ireland 11. Switzerland 12. Britain 13. Finland 14. Austria 15. Luxembourg 16. France 17. Denmark 18. New Zealand 19. Germany 20. Spain LOL Consider the source; ignore the blather. Query: What shall be deduced from the fact that Nos 1-7 on the list are all heavily socialistic in some or all aspects of their societal structure. Could the UN be using agenda-biased evaluation standards? Say it isn't so!! Query: Why is the USA still far and away the #1 preferred destination for immigrants? Is it possible that virtually the entire world population is truly stupid, and that the UN bureaucrats are the only smart ones? The immigration to the USA is mostly from countries that are lower on the list than the US is. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message news:1100920666.L9Ccnk3PcYNDk0ybuwED7Q@teranews... Sigvaldi Eggertsson wrote: "John Gaquin" wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message news:S82dnc5qiZNLSwXcRVn- The top 20: 1. Norway 2. Sweden 3. Australia 4. Canada 5. Netherlands 6. Belgium 7. Iceland 8. United States 9. Japan 10. Ireland 11. Switzerland 12. Britain 13. Finland 14. Austria 15. Luxembourg 16. France 17. Denmark 18. New Zealand 19. Germany 20. Spain LOL Consider the source; ignore the blather. Query: What shall be deduced from the fact that Nos 1-7 on the list are all heavily socialistic in some or all aspects of their societal structure. Could the UN be using agenda-biased evaluation standards? Say it isn't so!! Query: Why is the USA still far and away the #1 preferred destination for immigrants? Is it possible that virtually the entire world population is truly stupid, and that the UN bureaucrats are the only smart ones? The immigration to the USA is mostly from countries that are lower on the list than the US is. That is correct. The best and the brightest ain't coming here as they used to... You're stereotyping. Today's immigrants are predominantly from Latin America and Asia. 30 years ago, they were mostly from Europe. So according to you, a person must hail from Europe to be considered among the best and the brightest? 20% of US doctors are foreign born. Like most countries, we have "employment preference" categories that ensure that we still get our fair share of the best and the brightest. I wonder how many docs in Ireland are foreign born? |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message -- A passing thought: “We will make sure our troops ...... How appropriate that you are now closing your posts with "A passing thought...." All your thoughts are passing thoughts, Harry. Passing on whatever may be the daily kool-aid of the left; passing in one side of the brain and hopefully right out the other of whoever may be reading; and passing quickly on into oblivion, whence they came. |
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 10:37:06 -0500, JohnH wrote:
The immigration to the USA is mostly from countries that are lower on the list than the US is. Could that simple fact, especially when the numbers are in the millions/year, have any bearing on the USA's standing on the list? Some, but the Human Development Index is based on *quality* of life issues, not just economic issues. Life expectancy and education levels could be brought down some, but immigration issues, even at 3 million a year, is only a small part. If the ratings were strictly economic, the US would be third, Ireland 12. http://www.finfacts.com/biz10/global...epercapita.htm |
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