"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 20:31:46 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 18:40:50 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On 09 Nov 2004 17:24:50 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

We believed that the Jap-Am's were a threat to national security.

The "Jap-Ams"? Pardon me, your unwashed slip is showing.

Jap-Am, short for "Japanese-Americans". I don't know about you, but
I
don't like typing any more than I have to, and I use abbreviations
when I can.


When we took these "threats to national security" off to prison
camps

Correction, they were NOT prison camps.

Idiot. People were taken to these places and not allowed to leave.
That's
a
prison no matter how you look at it.

Name-calling already? Usually that signifies loss of argument. [Well,
I can't think of anything else, so I'll call you a name and pretend
I've won.]

Any thoughts on Dave's theory that Japanese citizens were held in a place
that wasn't really a prison?

It was an internment camp. They were not there as a result of any real
"crime". While you see no difference in the conditions, they were not
the same thing.

Dave


You are out of your mind. They were not permitted to leave. Even if the sign
out front didn't say "prison" or "correctional facility", it was a prison.

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:08:18 -0500, Dave Hall wrote:


I tend to look at it as a tug of war. There is give and take on both
sides, and the result of which tends to be more centrist.

The problem now is that both sides have become so polarized, there is
little room left for compromise. The republicans control most of the
government, but that won't stop the democrats from using every dirty trick
in the book to throw a wrench into the works, to prevent any workable
legislation out of congress.

Aside from the polarization, I would argue this is as it should be. It
tends to keep policies centrist. If the DeLays think there is a mandate
for a sharp turn to the right, they will not only find democrats
obstructionist, but also the many Republican moderates. It's fundamental
to a democracy, majority rules, and rules from the center.

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:25:55 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:08:18 -0500, Dave Hall wrote:


I tend to look at it as a tug of war. There is give and take on both
sides, and the result of which tends to be more centrist.

The problem now is that both sides have become so polarized, there is
little room left for compromise. The republicans control most of the
government, but that won't stop the democrats from using every dirty trick
in the book to throw a wrench into the works, to prevent any workable
legislation out of congress.

Aside from the polarization, I would argue this is as it should be. It
tends to keep policies centrist. If the DeLays think there is a mandate
for a sharp turn to the right, they will not only find democrats
obstructionist, but also the many Republican moderates. It's fundamental
to a democracy, majority rules, and rules from the center.

Yeah, but what about the tug of war?

I mean, I want to see somebody get down and dirty, 'ya know?

I know - Maureen Dowd and Mary Matilin in bikini's mud wrasslin' for
the fate of the country.

Hey, at least it would be entertaining.

Later,

Tom

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 17:25:12 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I know - Maureen Dowd and Mary Matilin in bikini's mud wrasslin' for the
fate of the country.

Ohh, now that's an image. Hopefully, one I can forget.

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:53:52 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 17:25:12 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I know - Maureen Dowd and Mary Matilin in bikini's mud wrasslin' for the
fate of the country.

Ohh, now that's an image. Hopefully, one I can forget.

You would prefer Laura Bush and Tah-ray-zah Heinz? :)

Later,

Tom

Doug Kanter wrote:

"Charles" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:

Yeah....really. :-) Or more resourceful ones, or something. Hell...even
after 3 days of October hiking without a bath, a certain female in my
life
still figured out some way of being clean, and this was NOT a time of
year
(in the Adirondacks) when one jumps into the nearest pond.

Did you complain to all the animal parents that the animal kiddies were
pooping around your campsite?

-- Charlie

No, stupid. I was using THEIR yard.


I hope you didn't crap or **** in their yard.

-- Charlie

Well said.

Gould 0738 wrote:

No. When you were 7 or 8 years old in the fifties you were able to grasp
the rudiments of a simplistic explanation. Apparently, you haven't given
the matter much observation or thought since.


You may think you live in an "overwhelmingly Christian nation." Even if you do,
one of the reasons generations of immigrants came to this country was a freedom
to practice the religion of their choice. Forcing kids to recite a "Christian
prayer" at the beginning of a school day has no place in a school that exists
to serve the interests of all students. Why should devout Jewish families pay
taxes to support public schools where their kids will be compelled, (at a
minimum through peer pressure), to pray to Jesus, or Virgin Mary, and/or a host
of Christian saints? Are Buddhist, Muslim, Wiccan, or Hindu taxpayers less
entitled to respect for their beliefs in the education system than Christian
taxpayers? Should we give the non-Christian taxpayers a discount, if we ask the
kids to recite a Christian prayer at the beginning of a school day?

Is it the proper role of the public schools to teach the children of atheists
that their parents are "wrong"?

Many of our ancestors came to this country because they found being forced to
worship God in a manner dictated by the numerical majority in a society, rather
than by faith and sincere conscious, unacceptable.

It is just as unacceptable in 21st Century America as it was in 18th Century
Britain.

Did you kid ever come to you and say, "But, Dad, most of the other kids are
doing....(insert stupid thing here)..."?

Your answer then still applies. "Just because a majority does something, that
does not make it right."

You want your kids to recite a Christian prayer at the beginning of a school
day?
There are dozens of schools just like that in most communities- they aren't
supported by tax dollars nor should they be.

"Charles" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:

"Charles" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:

Yeah....really. :-) Or more resourceful ones, or something.
Hell...even
after 3 days of October hiking without a bath, a certain female in
my
life
still figured out some way of being clean, and this was NOT a time
of
year
(in the Adirondacks) when one jumps into the nearest pond.

Did you complain to all the animal parents that the animal kiddies
were
pooping around your campsite?

-- Charlie

No, stupid. I was using THEIR yard.


I hope you didn't crap or **** in their yard.

-- Charlie

If they'd asked me not to, I wouldn't have. There's the detail you still
pretend to miss, months after the discussion was over.

Doug Kanter wrote:

"Charles" wrote in message
...


Doug Kanter wrote:

"Charles" wrote in message
...


Doug Kanter wrote:

Yeah....really. :-) Or more resourceful ones, or something.
Hell...even
after 3 days of October hiking without a bath, a certain female in
my
life
still figured out some way of being clean, and this was NOT a time
of
year
(in the Adirondacks) when one jumps into the nearest pond.

Did you complain to all the animal parents that the animal kiddies
were
pooping around your campsite?

-- Charlie

No, stupid. I was using THEIR yard.


I hope you didn't crap or **** in their yard.

-- Charlie

If they'd asked me not to, I wouldn't have. There's the detail you still
pretend to miss, months after the discussion was over.

Nice one douggie. Those animals have rights too.

-- Charlie

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:25:59 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 13:01:45 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:
On 09 Nov 2004 17:24:50 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

We believed that the Jap-Am's were a threat to national security.

The "Jap-Ams"? Pardon me, your unwashed slip is showing.

Jap-Am, short for "Japanese-Americans". I don't know about you, but I
don't like typing any more than I have to, and I use abbreviations
when I can.



So, you have no objection to being called "KKK Fundie Dave?" Short for
Krazed Kristian Konservative Fundamentalist Dave? :}


I wouldn't mind if it were true.

Dave



All but "conservative".

Dave
Which part isn't? :}