No.
There's only two things I know of that smell like fresh fish.
One of them is fresh fish.

-W

"bb" wrote in message
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On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:57:25 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


I'm starting a church centered around fishing and pussy.

Drop the fishing part and I'm in.

bb

On 08 Nov 2004 17:35:58 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

I'm starting a church centered around fishing and pussy.

I don't know. That plan has been tried before, rather often resulting in a
religious tradition that doesn't quite pass the sniff test.

Hmmmmm - maybe I should have done that Church of the Bearded Clam
joke.

Later,

Tom
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"Angling may be said to be so
like the mathematics that it
can never be fully learnt..."

Izaak Walton "The Compleat Angler", 1653

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
nk.net...
Well.... actually the Constitution only proscribed that "*Congress* shall
make no law establishing a religion, or prohibiting the free exercise
thereof"

The **intent** was to avoid a "Church of England" scenario where the there
was a preferred religion ordained by the govt and the rest were
"discouraged".

It's only activist courts that have loosely interpreted that to the point
where nothing of *any* religious signficance is welcomed in *any* public
place. I don't believe that was the framers intent at all. And I'm not
sure
it was ever intended to reach down into local govt the way it has. After
all
it deliniated "congress" in the text.

It didn't intend to even reach to the state level.......many states had
official state religions, some until well into the 19th century.



The "separation clause" got that name after the fact. If the same
courthouse "zeal" to interpret the law so strictly to the letter, were to
apply to the arms ammentment, then my right to own a nuclear weapon or
tomahawk missile system could not be infringed. :)

-W


"John Gaquin" wrote in message
news:H6CdnYNaEPkICxLcRVn-

The Constitution proscribes the suppression of religion with equal zeal.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:30:38 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Gould 0738 wrote:
I was reading this book about early North American exploration. It
said
that the a portion of the French priests that came over to convert
the
Native Americans did so with the belief that they were the lost tribe
of
Israel.

Could have been. The indigenous population of the Americas resulted
from
a
mixture of people from various parts of the world for many hundreds,
if
not
thousands,
of years before the Columbian expeditions.

The original missionary priests in the Mississippi vallley reported
discovering
native tribes with blue and hazel eyes, and fair skin. In New
England,
three
British missionaries were about to be burned at the stake. Two were
English,
the third had
grown up speaking Welsh as a child. As the Native Americans were
geting
ready
to
light off the pyres, the Welsh missionary began calling out to God in
his
childhood language. Many of the words were so similar to the language
used by
the tribe that had captured these missionaries that some of the
captors
understood that he was calling out, in a dialect of *their own
language*
to a
powerful spirit for help. The missionaries were released unharmed, as
a
result
of this amazing "sign".

There are literally scores of similar accounts, those are the two I
remember
most easily.


Don't forget Blazing Saddles, in which the Indian chief spoke Yiddish.

Every child born in America should be sent home with a copy of that
movie.

```````````````````````````
"I hired you people to try to get a little track laid, not to jump
around like a bunch of Kansas City faggots."
```````````````````````````
"Qualifications?

Rape, murder, arson, and rape.

You said rape twice.

I like rape."
``````````````````````````````
"I got it.

What?

Let's kill every first born male child in Rock Ridge.

Nah, too Jewish."


`````````````````````````````````````````````````` ``````````````````````````
`````````````````
"What do you want me to do sir?

I want you to round up ever vicious criminal and gun slinger in the
west. Take this down. I want rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty
hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits,
vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers,
buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes,
train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, ****-kickers and
Methodists."

`````````````````````````````````````````````````` ``````````````````````````
``````````````````
"Now if that don't beat all. Here we take the good time and trouble to
slaughter every last Indian in the West, and for what? So we can
appoint a sheriff that's blacker than any Indian. I AM depressed.

Excuse me, Mr. Taggart, sir, but I sure do hate to see you like this.
What if me and the boys was to shoot that ****** dead? Would that pep
you up some?

That might help . . ."
`````````````````````````````````````````````
"I got it. I got it.

You do?

We'll work up a "Number 6" on 'em.

Number 6"? I'm afraid I'm not familiar with that one...

Well, that's where we go a-ridin' into town, a whampin' and whompin'
every livin' thing that moves within an inch of its life. Except the
women folks, of course.

You spare the women?

NAW. We rape the **** out of them at the Number 6 Dance later on.

Marvelous."
`````````````````````````````````````````````````` `````````````

So what do you think - third grade, fourth grade home work
assignment? :)

Later,

Tom

`


Nah....age 15 or so would be about right. My son and his friends understand
where this kind of crap fits into culture. Until then, the DVD would be
hidden, in the same way you usually don't tell kids about the savings bonds
grandma bought them when they were 3 years old. :-)

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 20:08:31 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

Nah....age 15 or so would be about right. My son and his friends understand
where this kind of crap fits into culture. Until then, the DVD would be
hidden, in the same way you usually don't tell kids about the savings bonds
grandma bought them when they were 3 years old. :-)

LOL!!!

Actually, "Blazing Saddles" is one of my favorite movies. Every time
I see the campfire seen with the gas attack, I crack up.

Kind of reminds me of a time a few klicks south of Pleiku...... :)

Later,

Tom

"Beware the one legged man in a butt
kicking contest - he is there for a
reason."

Wun Hung Lo - date unknown

When you are at war, you have to cover your bases.

Cover your bases? By interning American citizens?

Dave Hall wrote:
They had their reasons back then. They were concerned about espionage.
When viewed through the filter of time, it looks like an indefensible
action.

No, the internment of the Nisei is not "indefensible." It has the
defense you offered: sabotage & espionage.


... But at the time, it was a reasonable thing to do considering
the circumstances.

It was reasonable only if you consider that American citizens have no
rights that the gov't need respect. Clearly, you (and a lot of people)
believe that the convenience of the gov't should override any & all
basic citizen's rights.

I disagree with that philosophy.

DSK

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 08:45:19 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 07:29:47 -0500, Dave Hall wrote:


It's this kind of thinking that resulted in over 110,000
Japanese-Americans being "relocated" at the beginning of Wo rldWarII.

When you are at war, you have to cover your bases.

Cover your bases? By interning American citizens?

They had their reasons back then. They were concerned about espionage.
When viewed through the filter of time, it looks like an indefensible
action. But at the time, it was a reasonable thing to do considering
the circumstances.

Dave


Why do you suppose millions of Germans weren't rounded up too?

Gould 0738 wrote:
She's smart enough to know that she doesn't want to present, "It's me or the
boat." There are some things, like a dog, that a guy could live without.....

Eisboch wrote:
Oh, man. :-) Mrs.E actually suggested that once in a hypothetical way.
During one of our "conversations" she asked how I would like it if she
said that I had to choose between her and the boat, and I answered,
"Well, I suppose there is some things I can live without". She doesn't
always appreciate my humor and I damn near caught a horseshoe off the
back of my head.


Horses... huh, it's a good thing she's married to you and not me. But
then, I have never been able to afford more than one expensive hobby at
a time.

My situation is somewhat different... I was well on my way to being a
confirmed old batchelor when I met the girl I married. She was (and
still is) purusing a very demanding career; actually when we met she was
finishing up the tremendous amount of schooling & interning entailed in
her career path... OTOH she had a dog (I love dogs), a sailboat (I love
sailing), and had her priorities right enough that she *made* the time
for them. After a year or so of increasingly realizing that I had never
met a woman like her, we married.

She would no more ask me to give up my boat than I would ask her to give
up hers!

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
It funny, but my family never once, even in theory, have begrudged me
the boats I've owned over the years.

Then again, it get's me out of the house and out of their hair.

That's true. I used to give my family the seasons regatta schedule well
ahead of time so they'd know when I wouldn't be pestering them ;)

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 08 Nov 2004 17:35:58 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

I'm starting a church centered around fishing and pussy.

I don't know. That plan has been tried before, rather often resulting in
a
religious tradition that doesn't quite pass the sniff test.

Hmmmmm - maybe I should have done that Church of the Bearded Clam
joke.

Later,

Tom
-----------
"Angling may be said to be so
like the mathematics that it
can never be fully learnt..."

Izaak Walton "The Compleat Angler", 1653


You guys need to find some gals who bathe.

Yeah....really. :-) Or more resourceful ones, or something. Hell...even
after 3 days of October hiking without a bath, a certain female in my life
still figured out some way of being clean, and this was NOT a time of year
(in the Adirondacks) when one jumps into the nearest pond.

Perhaps it's the "free exercise thereof" that people cling to when they go
to court over this stuff. Not much different from the way both sides of the
gun issue dissect the constitution and highlight the bits that help their
cause.