"Some federal use the 14th amendment to expand federal powers in the aim of
insuring HUMAN rights but manatee have no constitutional rights."

What about natural rights?

"Greg" wrote in message
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The 10th amendment says'

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or
to
the people.

For the same reason that "murder" is a state crime, "speeding" should be
too.
The only federal crimes, according to the Constitution, are treason and
counterfeiting.
Some federal use the 14th amendment to expand federal powers in the aim of
insuring HUMAN rights but manatee have no constitutional rights.

Bzzzt.

Outside the scope of the discussion, which is a *legal* issues discussion,
not a morality discussion.

Natural rights need some codification before a court can deal with them.

-W

"Eric H" wrote in message
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"Some federal use the 14th amendment to expand federal powers in the aim
of
insuring HUMAN rights but manatee have no constitutional rights."

What about natural rights?

Greg wrote:

The 10th amendment says'

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to
the people.

For the same reason that "murder" is a state crime, "speeding" should be too.
The only federal crimes, according to the Constitution, are treason and
counterfeiting.
Some federal use the 14th amendment to expand federal powers in the aim of
insuring HUMAN rights but manatee have no constitutional rights.

Hey, go for it: kill all the manatees, burn down all the trees, and bury
the spent nuclear rods in your back yard. After all, why should anything
interfere with your Constitutionally granted right to drive your boat at
any speed you like?


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What about natural rights?


We are talking about constitutional law, not natural law. Natural law says the
strong survive. The weak becomes food.

Greg wrote:

What about natural rights?


We are talking about constitutional law, not natural law. Natural law says the
strong survive. The weak becomes food.



Well, then, you should hope you don't meet up with a hungry alligator.
Sadly, of course, man-eating alligators are shot.

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Hey, go for it: kill all the manatees

If people actually knew what they were talking about they would know the State
of Florida DOES have plenty of manatee speed zones that are somewhat based on
scientific studies. The federal zone in question is simply a knee jerk reaction
to a law suit against Gail Norton and has no scientific reason to be.

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:19:54 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Some Florida politician didn't want to **** of boaters, so he arranged for
the Feds to do it.

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Not quite true. The "Save The Manatee Club", with the help of a great
deal of bleeding heart animal rights money, mostly northern,
successfully co-opted the federal wild life folks into starting an
anti-boater campaign. The feds in turn co-opted the Corps of
Engineers to withhold permits for dock construction until the state
and local governments fell into line. Non-boating waterfront home
owners who have been harassed by jet skis and the straight pipe go
fast crowd, saw the speed limits as a good thing and joined in the
chorus.

Well, then, you should hope you don't meet up with a hungry alligator.
Sadly, of course, man-eating alligators are shot.

Only a sissy shoots an aligator, You hook them and whack them in the head.

Non-boating waterfront home
owners who have been harassed by jet skis and the straight pipe go
fast crowd, saw the speed limits as a good thing and joined in the
chorus.

The problem with that thought is this federal zone is nowhere near any
homeowner. I really don't care since I don't go up in the river but it becomes
an issue of "when they came for the pick a group I remained silent" ... until
they come for YOU.

Unless you're Steve Erwin.

-W

"Greg" wrote in message
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Well, then, you should hope you don't meet up with a hungry alligator.
Sadly, of course, man-eating alligators are shot.

Only a sissy shoots an aligator, You hook them and whack them in the head.