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which makes him a
suspicious character indeed.

What makes Dean a suspicious character is the fact that he sealed all
of his records from when he was governor.


Yup, it seems a rather stupid thing to do when running for President.
But in fairness, how about GWB's records.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com...es/000897.html


I'm not interested in what Dean did while in college...'cause it's not
relevant. However, the decisions that he made while an elected
representative (governor of Vermont) *are* very relevant.


The link was referring to GWB's records while Governor of Texas.
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which makes him a
suspicious character indeed.

What makes Dean a suspicious character is the fact that he sealed all
of his records from when he was governor.

Yup, it seems a rather stupid thing to do when running for President.
But in fairness, how about GWB's records.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com...es/000897.html


I'm not interested in what Dean did while in college...'cause it's not
relevant. However, the decisions that he made while an elected
representative (governor of Vermont) *are* very relevant.


The link was referring to GWB's records while Governor of Texas.


The link made a one-sentence reference to GWB's record while governor...but
there was no further mention of it. That was the first time I even heard
mention of him having his records sealed from the time he was governor. Any
further specifics on the allegation?




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which makes him a
suspicious character indeed.

What makes Dean a suspicious character is the fact that he sealed all
of his records from when he was governor.

Yup, it seems a rather stupid thing to do when running for President.
But in fairness, how about GWB's records.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com...es/000897.html

I'm not interested in what Dean did while in college...'cause it's not
relevant. However, the decisions that he made while an elected
representative (governor of Vermont) *are* very relevant.


The link was referring to GWB's records while Governor of Texas.


The link made a one-sentence reference to GWB's record while governor...but
there was no further mention of it. That was the first time I even heard
mention of him having his records sealed from the time he was governor. Any
further specifics on the allegation?




It's not an allegation.

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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 03:40:33 +0000, NOYB wrote:


The link made a one-sentence reference to GWB's record while
governor...but there was no further mention of it. That was the first
time I even heard mention of him having his records sealed from the time
he was governor. Any further specifics on the allegation?


From the above link:

" Dean's right, in a sense, about Bush. The former Texas governor had his
gubernatorial records sent to his father's presidential library at Texas
A&M, where they are kept from public scrutiny (requests have to go through
the state's attorney general's office, who just happens to be a close Bush
ally)."

Upon further reading, GWB's records were moved back into state custody in
July 2002, after "a Texas attorney general's opinion had established that
they were subject to the state's open-records law." I agree with you,
Dean should unseal his records. It is a stupid thing for a candidate to
do and GWB should also have been held to task for it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...&notFound=true



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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 03:40:33 +0000, NOYB wrote:


The link made a one-sentence reference to GWB's record while
governor...but there was no further mention of it. That was the first
time I even heard mention of him having his records sealed from the time
he was governor. Any further specifics on the allegation?


From the above link:

" Dean's right, in a sense, about Bush. The former Texas governor had his
gubernatorial records sent to his father's presidential library at Texas
A&M, where they are kept from public scrutiny (requests have to go through
the state's attorney general's office, who just happens to be a close Bush
ally)."

Upon further reading, GWB's records were moved back into state custody in
July 2002, after "a Texas attorney general's opinion had established that
they were subject to the state's open-records law." I agree with you,
Dean should unseal his records. It is a stupid thing for a candidate to
do and GWB should also have been held to task for it.


Nevertheless, Dean made this statement:

"I'll unseal mine if he'll (Bush) unseal all of his"

If Bush's records are "unsealed" now, isn't about time Dean kept his promise
to unseal his?




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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:48:19 +0000, NOYB wrote:

If Bush's records are "unsealed" now, isn't about time Dean kept his
promise to unseal his?


Yup.
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:48:19 +0000, NOYB wrote:

If Bush's records are "unsealed" now, isn't about time Dean kept his
promise to unseal his?


Yup.


Think he will?


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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 07:26:00 +0000, NOYB wrote:


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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:48:19 +0000, NOYB wrote:

If Bush's records are "unsealed" now, isn't about time Dean kept his
promise to unseal his?


Yup.


Think he will?


I've been doing a little reading on this tonight and a couple of things
have come to light. Bush's records aren't quite as "unsealed" as it would
appear. The decision of access is left to the Texas AG.

http://www.thevictoriaadvocate.com/o...-1820174c.html

As for Dean's records, he has decided to leave the decision to release the
records in the hands of a judge. I would also warn that there is probably
no "smoking gun", as sealing a portion of records seems to be pretty
standard. Personally, I think he should release them. In a democracy,
open government is important.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/nation/2278349

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/s...s/dean/174.htm
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 03:40:33 +0000, NOYB wrote:


The link made a one-sentence reference to GWB's record while
governor...but there was no further mention of it. That was the first
time I even heard mention of him having his records sealed from the time
he was governor. Any further specifics on the allegation?


From the above link:

" Dean's right, in a sense, about Bush. The former Texas governor had his
gubernatorial records sent to his father's presidential library at Texas
A&M, where they are kept from public scrutiny (requests have to go through
the state's attorney general's office, who just happens to be a close Bush
ally)."

Upon further reading, GWB's records were moved back into state custody in
July 2002, after "a Texas attorney general's opinion had established that
they were subject to the state's open-records law." I agree with you,
Dean should unseal his records. It is a stupid thing for a candidate to
do and GWB should also have been held to task for it.


Nevertheless, Dean made this statement:

"I'll unseal mine if he'll (Bush) unseal all of his"

If Bush's records are "unsealed" now, isn't about time Dean kept his promise
to unseal his?


But there NOT.
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