On 18 Oct 2004 04:54:53 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

thunder wrote in message ...
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:10:58 +0000, WaIIy wrote:


This is perfect...

http://www.nrapvf.org/media/pdf/doghunt.htm

Geez guy, that dog was bread for hunting. I wonder if the other "facts"
are as accurate.

NRA, what a wonderful organization. They want every weapon, including
assault weapons, to be legal. No one associated with the NRA will come
to grips with the fact that in almost all crimes committed with a
firearm, the perpetrator has either borrowed or taken the gun from
someone he knew, like a law abiding relative.

Ummmm.....really?

If you are going to make a statement like this, then you need to back
it up.

Later,

Tom

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message . ..
On 18 Oct 2004 04:54:53 -0700, atl_man2@a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=yahoo%20com" onmouseover="window.status='yahoo.com'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"yahoo.com/a (basskisser) wrote:

thunder wrote in message ...
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:10:58 +0000, WaIIy wrote:


This is perfect...

http://www.nrapvf.org/media/pdf/doghunt.htm

Geez guy, that dog was bread for hunting. I wonder if the other "facts"
are as accurate.

NRA, what a wonderful organization. They want every weapon, including
assault weapons, to be legal. No one associated with the NRA will come
to grips with the fact that in almost all crimes committed with a
firearm, the perpetrator has either borrowed or taken the gun from
someone he knew, like a law abiding relative.

Ummmm.....really?

If you are going to make a statement like this, then you need to back
it up.

Later,

Tom

Ummmm, YES, really. Very easily found on the Bureau of Justice
website:

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/guns.htm

which, in part states:
Offenders

According to the 1997 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those
possessing a gun, the source of the gun was from -

a flea market or gun show for fewer than 2%
a retail store or pawnshop for about 12%
family, friends, a street buy, or an illegal source for 80%

If there is anything else I can help you with, feel free to ask.

On 18 Oct 2004 13:23:18 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message . ..
On 18 Oct 2004 04:54:53 -0700, atl_man2@a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=yahoo%20com" onmouseover="window.status='yahoo.com'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"yahoo.com/a (basskisser) wrote:

thunder wrote in message ...
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:10:58 +0000, WaIIy wrote:


This is perfect...

http://www.nrapvf.org/media/pdf/doghunt.htm

Geez guy, that dog was bread for hunting. I wonder if the other "facts"
are as accurate.

NRA, what a wonderful organization. They want every weapon, including
assault weapons, to be legal. No one associated with the NRA will come
to grips with the fact that in almost all crimes committed with a
firearm, the perpetrator has either borrowed or taken the gun from
someone he knew, like a law abiding relative.

Ummmm.....really?

If you are going to make a statement like this, then you need to back
it up.

Ummmm, YES, really. Very easily found on the Bureau of Justice
website:

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/guns.htm

which, in part states:
Offenders

According to the 1997 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those
possessing a gun, the source of the gun was from -

a flea market or gun show for fewer than 2%
a retail store or pawnshop for about 12%
family, friends, a street buy, or an illegal source for 80%

If there is anything else I can help you with, feel free to ask.

1 - So what part of the 80% is family and friends?

5%, 10%, 20% - can't be 80%

How about I just take a wild guess here and say less than 15% of that
80% were from family and friends.

2 - And how many of these guns were used in a crime.

5%, 10%, 20% - can't be 80%.

I'd bet that it's probably around - oh, 57% give or take a little.

So, what do you "guess"?

Later,

Tom

"Beware the one legged man in a butt
kicking contest - he is there for a
reason."

Wun Hung Lo - date unknown