"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:05:46 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

The best thing that can happen to smug righties is horrific
personal
disaster, such as loss of a good job and inability to find a
new
good
job, loss of a close family member with devastating bills to
pay,
loss
of a home due to a natural disaster, et cetera.

You are a true nutcase.


Smart people plan for the disasters. Although I've been blessed
with
good
fortune, I know that things could change in an instant. That's
why I
spend
tens of thousands of dollars every year on insurance...for life,
disability,
natural disasters, etc.



It's wonderful when the taxpayers subsidize you, eh?

The interest on half of my student loan was subsidized...but ONLY
WHILE I
WAS IN SCHOOL. But none of the interest is subsidized for the
next
25
years
that I'm paying it off.


What? You don't write off the premiums on your many insurance
policies?

A write-off is not a subsidy. It's my money that I'm saving...not
the
government's.




A write-off is a subsidy.

If you write off insurance or depreciation, it comes off your gross
income and lowers the number on which you pay taxes. It is a subsidy.




Agreed.

A write off means you get to keep more of *your* money. It's not the
government's money until you pay it to them. If the government let's
you
keep more of *your* money, then how are they "subsidizing" you?

To put another way: Did Bush give you a subsidy when he passed the tax
cut, Jim?




Lets look at write offs in another way using a real life example.

Theresa Heinz Kerry has a reported income of $5,073,554 in 2003, on
which
she paid only 12% in taxes. The write offs and tax loop holes she used,
while apparently legal, left some 13%~18% of taxes out of the government
coffer, costing the government money. They subsidized her some 18% of
her
income with the write offs and loop holes.

They didn't subsidize anything. The government let her keep 88% of her
money instead of only 70% of it. How grand of them! It's still her
friggin' money!

I realize that taxes are a necessity. However, to declare that the
government is subsidizing someone by taking only 12% of their money
instead
of 30% is ABSURD!




Mrs. Heinz Kerry gave away about $4 million of her income and paid about
25% on the remainder, give or take, the same as Bush and Kerry.


Thanks for bringing that up. Mrs. Heinz Kerry did indeed donate a large
portion of her income--about $4 million worth--to the Tides Foundation
between 1995 and 2001. The Tides Foundation supports numerous left-wing
organizations.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=37244

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:44:21 -0400, NOYB wrote:


Thanks for bringing that up. Mrs. Heinz Kerry did indeed donate a large
portion of her income--about $4 million worth--to the Tides Foundation
between 1995 and 2001. The Tides Foundation supports numerous left-wing
organizations.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=37244

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:50:31 -0400, NOYB wrote:


You guys claimed that the Tides Foundation doesn't fund left-wing
organizations. You asked "what's your point?" when I showed you several
left-wing organizations that they've funded. My point is that you're
wrong. The Tides Foundation (to which Heinz Kerry has donated $4 million)
has funded numerous left-wing organizations.

No, my point was that Heinz-Kerry never gave $4 million to the Tides
Foundation. If you had read my link, you would find that she gave $8.1
million to the Tides *Center* which administered the grants.



As to where the $8.1 million went:

http://www.heinz.org/files/HP_Digit.pdf

"JimH" wrote in message
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Lets look at write offs in another way using a real life example.

Here's a real life example for ya...

Goodbye forever a**hole...

*ploink*

--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
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