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rmcinnis wrote:
These Mercury outboards I have are pieces of @#$% ! \ I am certainly never going to buy another carbureted Mercury motor, and I may never buy Mercury again period! Rod McInnis To add my little story about Mercury outboards: I purchased a new Whaler Dauntless equipped with a 115 hp carbureted Mercury engine in 2001. This engine model is the type that runs on 2 cylinders up to about 1800 RPM, then cuts in the other 2 cylinders. After about a month of occasional use the engine began dripping a half a cup or so of 2 cycle oil whenever the engine was tilted up when not in use. The oil would collect in the Whaler's engine well, then run out the drains causing a very noticeable oil slick at the marina. (Boat was in a slip) At first I thought the oil tank (located on the side of the engine, under the cowling) was leaking, but determined that it was not. I finally realized the foam insulation inside the cowling was saturated with oil. It seems that when running on 2 cylinders oil is still injected into the non-firing cylinders (makes sense) but those carburetors quickly become loaded with oil that leaks out whenever you fully tilt the engine up. Anyway, I called the dealer for a fix and was told "It's the nature of the beast". Not believing that, I called two authorized Mercury sales and service centers and was told the same thing - there is nothing that can be done to fix it. The only way to avoid producing an oil slick was to leave the engine down all the time. My new Scout is equipped with a Yamaha 200 hp four stroke. Much nicer engine. Eisboch |
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On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 06:25:06 -0400, Eisboch
wrote: rmcinnis wrote: These Mercury outboards I have are pieces of @#$% ! \ I am certainly never going to buy another carbureted Mercury motor, and I may never buy Mercury again period! Rod McInnis To add my little story about Mercury outboards: I purchased a new Whaler Dauntless equipped with a 115 hp carbureted Mercury engine in 2001. This engine model is the type that runs on 2 cylinders up to about 1800 RPM, then cuts in the other 2 cylinders. After about a month of occasional use the engine began dripping a half a cup or so of 2 cycle oil whenever the engine was tilted up when not in use. The oil would collect in the Whaler's engine well, then run out the drains causing a very noticeable oil slick at the marina. (Boat was in a slip) At first I thought the oil tank (located on the side of the engine, under the cowling) was leaking, but determined that it was not. I finally realized the foam insulation inside the cowling was saturated with oil. It seems that when running on 2 cylinders oil is still injected into the non-firing cylinders (makes sense) but those carburetors quickly become loaded with oil that leaks out whenever you fully tilt the engine up. Anyway, I called the dealer for a fix and was told "It's the nature of the beast". Not believing that, I called two authorized Mercury sales and service centers and was told the same thing - there is nothing that can be done to fix it. The only way to avoid producing an oil slick was to leave the engine down all the time. My new Scout is equipped with a Yamaha 200 hp four stroke. Much nicer engine. The Evinrude 200 FICHT on my Ranger does that also, but not to that extent. The left over oil leaks out of the air baffle. I put an oil absorbant pad in the pan and change it twice a year. Problem solved. All the best, Tom -------------- "What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup... is there a computer terminal in the day room of some looney bin somewhere?" Bilgeman - circa 2004 |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 06:25:06 -0400, Eisboch wrote: rmcinnis wrote: These Mercury outboards I have are pieces of @#$% ! \ I am certainly never going to buy another carbureted Mercury motor, and I may never buy Mercury again period! Rod McInnis To add my little story about Mercury outboards: I purchased a new Whaler Dauntless equipped with a 115 hp carbureted Mercury engine in 2001. This engine model is the type that runs on 2 cylinders up to about 1800 RPM, then cuts in the other 2 cylinders. After about a month of occasional use the engine began dripping a half a cup or so of 2 cycle oil whenever the engine was tilted up when not in use. The oil would collect in the Whaler's engine well, then run out the drains causing a very noticeable oil slick at the marina. (Boat was in a slip) At first I thought the oil tank (located on the side of the engine, under the cowling) was leaking, but determined that it was not. I finally realized the foam insulation inside the cowling was saturated with oil. It seems that when running on 2 cylinders oil is still injected into the non-firing cylinders (makes sense) but those carburetors quickly become loaded with oil that leaks out whenever you fully tilt the engine up. Anyway, I called the dealer for a fix and was told "It's the nature of the beast". Not believing that, I called two authorized Mercury sales and service centers and was told the same thing - there is nothing that can be done to fix it. The only way to avoid producing an oil slick was to leave the engine down all the time. My new Scout is equipped with a Yamaha 200 hp four stroke. Much nicer engine. The Evinrude 200 FICHT on my Ranger does that also, but not to that extent. The left over oil leaks out of the air baffle. I put an oil absorbant pad in the pan and change it twice a year. Problem solved. All the best, Tom -------------- "What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup... is there a computer terminal in the day room of some looney bin somewhere?" Bilgeman - circa 2004 Gee Tom it's a bad design!!! just a total disaster from 97 till it's latest try with a lame name change. Imagine any other consumer item that costs even say $100 which had a chronic oil leak?? but hooly dooly these cost more, much more, than a car!!! You'd think they'd at least they could afford to give you a warranty period supply of "absorbent" pads ....... loony tune short life spark plugs??........."special" dealer only oil??? ............power heads when the detonation kills them:-) They're a monstrous consumer ripoff & they have the neck to carry multiple serious design flaws which have yet to be even admitted to. Don't give them any more of "your" money, but of course it is your money so......... K |
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:19:54 +1000, "K. Smith"
wrote: ~~ snippage ~~ Gee Tom it's a bad design!!! just a total disaster from 97 till it's latest try with a lame name change. Karen, I have great respect for your opinion and knowledge. Don't spoil it by harping on a subject. I am happy with my FICHTS, I don't care about your opinion on THIS subject, so just drop it. All the best, Tom -------------- "What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup... is there a computer terminal in the day room of some looney bin somewhere?" Bilgeman - circa 2004 |
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Eisboch wrote:
rmcinnis wrote: These Mercury outboards I have are pieces of @#$% ! \ I am certainly never going to buy another carbureted Mercury motor, and I may never buy Mercury again period! Rod McInnis To add my little story about Mercury outboards: I purchased a new Whaler Dauntless equipped with a 115 hp carbureted Mercury engine in 2001. This engine model is the type that runs on 2 cylinders up to about 1800 RPM, then cuts in the other 2 cylinders. After about a month of occasional use the engine began dripping a half a cup or so of 2 cycle oil whenever the engine was tilted up when not in use. The oil would collect in the Whaler's engine well, then run out the drains causing a very noticeable oil slick at the marina. (Boat was in a slip) At first I thought the oil tank (located on the side of the engine, under the cowling) was leaking, but determined that it was not. I finally realized the foam insulation inside the cowling was saturated with oil. It seems that when running on 2 cylinders oil is still injected into the non-firing cylinders (makes sense) but those carburetors quickly become loaded with oil that leaks out whenever you fully tilt the engine up. Anyway, I called the dealer for a fix and was told "It's the nature of the beast". Not believing that, I called two authorized Mercury sales and service centers and was told the same thing - there is nothing that can be done to fix it. The only way to avoid producing an oil slick was to leave the engine down all the time. My new Scout is equipped with a Yamaha 200 hp four stroke. Much nicer engine. Eisboch Sad story but it's good to know you were listening in those days & didn't fall for the Ficht/Opti BS:-) & even now didn't get the DFI yamaha, well done. It's aways easy for the spriuker dealers to say all sorts of things when it's other peoples' money. Sorry I'm a bit over the top this morning, the conservatives (we call ours "liberal/national coalition" just to confuse everybody:-)) have won again, along with the US free trade agreement we're lookin' good. K |
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