was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors.

Plastic weapons? Did he really say that? I can't believe that nonsense is
still floating around. At least with current technology, a gun still needs
metal to surround the round in the chamber, even if the rest of the thing is
made of a composite material. Was Edwards referring to plastic eating
utensils? :-)

In article ,
says...
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors.

Plastic weapons? Did he really say that? I can't believe that nonsense is
still floating around. At least with current technology, a gun still needs
metal to surround the round in the chamber, even if the rest of the thing is
made of a composite material. Was Edwards referring to plastic eating
utensils? :-)

The point was the Cheney voted against banning such weapons, not that
they exist.

jps

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors.

Plastic weapons? Did he really say that? I can't believe that nonsense
is
still floating around. At least with current technology, a gun still
needs
metal to surround the round in the chamber, even if the rest of the
thing is
made of a composite material. Was Edwards referring to plastic eating
utensils? :-)

The point was the Cheney voted against banning such weapons, not that
they exist.

jps

OK, but it should be embarrassing to even mention the existence of such
things. Even the anti-gun lobby doesn't talk about it any more. :-)

Doug Kanter wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors.

Plastic weapons? Did he really say that? I can't believe that nonsense
is
still floating around. At least with current technology, a gun still
needs
metal to surround the round in the chamber, even if the rest of the
thing is
made of a composite material. Was Edwards referring to plastic eating
utensils? :-)

The point was the Cheney voted against banning such weapons, not that
they exist.

jps

OK, but it should be embarrassing to even mention the existence of such
things. Even the anti-gun lobby doesn't talk about it any more. :-)




It's quite possible to make a handgun out of plastic, and carry a pen
whose barrel also serves as the chamber liner.


--
"...vice president (Cheney), I'm surprised to hear him talk about
records. When he was one of 435 members of the United States House, he
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors. He voted
against the Department of Education. He voted against funding for
Meals on Wheels for seniors. He voted against a holiday for Martin
Luther King. He voted against a resolution calling for the release of
Nelson Mandela in South Africa. It's amazing to hear him criticize
either my record or John Kerry's."

- Senator John Edwards, 10/05/04

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote
against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors.

Plastic weapons? Did he really say that? I can't believe that
nonsense
is
still floating around. At least with current technology, a gun still
needs
metal to surround the round in the chamber, even if the rest of the
thing is
made of a composite material. Was Edwards referring to plastic eating
utensils? :-)

The point was the Cheney voted against banning such weapons, not that
they exist.

jps

OK, but it should be embarrassing to even mention the existence of such
things. Even the anti-gun lobby doesn't talk about it any more. :-)




It's quite possible to make a handgun out of plastic, and carry a pen
whose barrel also serves as the chamber liner.

Yeah, but:
1) How quickly could you reload after the first shot before someone with an
attitude (like me) ripped a lunch tray off one of the seats and beat you to
death with it?

and

B) It's common knowledge that even a large caliber round like a .44 would
not do enough damage to bring down a plane. Even if it could, It would take
quite an engineering feat to design a plastic thing with a removable metal
tube that would withstand a powerful round, not to mention the need for it
to remain intact while being fired.

...oh....and:

III: You'd have to assemble it. Go back to the lunch tray. :-)

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote
against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors.

Plastic weapons? Did he really say that? I can't believe that
nonsense
is
still floating around. At least with current technology, a gun still
needs
metal to surround the round in the chamber, even if the rest of the
thing is
made of a composite material. Was Edwards referring to plastic eating
utensils? :-)

The point was the Cheney voted against banning such weapons, not that
they exist.

jps

OK, but it should be embarrassing to even mention the existence of such
things. Even the anti-gun lobby doesn't talk about it any more. :-)




It's quite possible to make a handgun out of plastic, and carry a pen
whose barrel also serves as the chamber liner.

Yeah, but:
1) How quickly could you reload after the first shot before someone with an
attitude (like me) ripped a lunch tray off one of the seats and beat you to
death with it?

and

B) It's common knowledge that even a large caliber round like a .44 would
not do enough damage to bring down a plane. Even if it could, It would take
quite an engineering feat to design a plastic thing with a removable metal
tube that would withstand a powerful round, not to mention the need for it
to remain intact while being fired.

..oh....and:

III: You'd have to assemble it. Go back to the lunch tray. :-)



You're splitting hairs. The question was whether a plastic gun could be
slipped aboard an airliner. The answer is, yes, since the barrel liner
could be brought aboard as part of a writing pen.

As for "some assembly required," well, there's always sneaking off to
the head.


As for doing it, well, I'll leave that to one of right-wing nutcases who
log on here...terrorism is the bailiwick of the conservatives.


--
"...vice president (Cheney), I'm surprised to hear him talk about
records. When he was one of 435 members of the United States House, he
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors. He voted
against the Department of Education. He voted against funding for
Meals on Wheels for seniors. He voted against a holiday for Martin
Luther King. He voted against a resolution calling for the release of
Nelson Mandela in South Africa. It's amazing to hear him criticize
either my record or John Kerry's."

- Senator John Edwards, 10/05/04