was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors.

Plastic weapons? Did he really say that? I can't believe that nonsense is
still floating around. At least with current technology, a gun still needs
metal to surround the round in the chamber, even if the rest of the thing is
made of a composite material. Was Edwards referring to plastic eating
utensils? :-)

In article ,
says...
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors.

Plastic weapons? Did he really say that? I can't believe that nonsense is
still floating around. At least with current technology, a gun still needs
metal to surround the round in the chamber, even if the rest of the thing is
made of a composite material. Was Edwards referring to plastic eating
utensils? :-)

The point was the Cheney voted against banning such weapons, not that
they exist.

jps

wrote:
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:45:18 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors.

Plastic weapons? Did he really say that? I can't believe that nonsense is
still floating around. At least with current technology, a gun still needs
metal to surround the round in the chamber, even if the rest of the thing is
made of a composite material.


Okay, even if that were true (which it isn't - think "high tech
ceramics") what would the weapon you describe look like going through
a baggage xray? It sure wouldn't look like a gun if all you saw was a
metal tube.

BB


Watch it fella...you say metal tube here and one of the right-wing
assholes here will report you to the FBI. Which right-wing asshole? Can
you say "husband of Jayne..."?

P.S. Those metal tubes Condi Rice said Saddam had? They came from
Cuba...the best Havanas are packaged in aluminum tubes.


--
"...vice president (Cheney), I'm surprised to hear him talk about
records. When he was one of 435 members of the United States House, he
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors. He voted
against the Department of Education. He voted against funding for
Meals on Wheels for seniors. He voted against a holiday for Martin
Luther King. He voted against a resolution calling for the release of
Nelson Mandela in South Africa. It's amazing to hear him criticize
either my record or John Kerry's."

- Senator John Edwards, 10/05/04

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:45:18 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors.

Plastic weapons? Did he really say that? I can't believe that nonsense is
still floating around. At least with current technology, a gun still
needs
metal to surround the round in the chamber, even if the rest of the thing
is
made of a composite material.


Okay, even if that were true (which it isn't - think "high tech
ceramics") what would the weapon you describe look like going through
a baggage xray? It sure wouldn't look like a gun if all you saw was a
metal tube.

BB


Watch it fella...you say metal tube here and one of the right-wing
assholes here will report you to the FBI. Which right-wing asshole? Can
you say "husband of Jayne..."?



Yep, and make more threats to the President and I will again forward that
information to them. Such threats are not taken lightly by the FBI or
Secret Service Harry. I thought you were smart enough to know that. I
guess not. LOL!

BTW: I see you continue to be obsessed with me yet claim to have killfiled
me. Makes total sense....eh Krause?

ps I never heard from you on my $20,000 bet that you do not own a custom
made 36 foot lobster boat and that your wife does not hold a double
doctorate. I will fly over at my cost on any date you choose. $20,000 for
an easy hours worth of work with no inconvenience to you.

No sane person would turn down this bet, unless of course they don't own the
boat and their wife does not have the double doctorate's.

So what say you Krause? Eh?

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors.

Plastic weapons? Did he really say that? I can't believe that nonsense
is
still floating around. At least with current technology, a gun still
needs
metal to surround the round in the chamber, even if the rest of the
thing is
made of a composite material. Was Edwards referring to plastic eating
utensils? :-)

The point was the Cheney voted against banning such weapons, not that
they exist.

jps

OK, but it should be embarrassing to even mention the existence of such
things. Even the anti-gun lobby doesn't talk about it any more. :-)

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:45:18 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors.

Plastic weapons? Did he really say that? I can't believe that nonsense is
still floating around. At least with current technology, a gun still
needs
metal to surround the round in the chamber, even if the rest of the thing
is
made of a composite material.


Okay, even if that were true (which it isn't - think "high tech
ceramics") what would the weapon you describe look like going through
a baggage xray? It sure wouldn't look like a gun if all you saw was a
metal tube.

BB

Oh for cryin' out loud....spend an evening browsing web sites belonging to
Smith & Wesson, Kahr, Glock, Springfield, Ruger and a host of others. Find
me some handguns whose slides don't look like slides.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:45:18 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors.

Plastic weapons? Did he really say that? I can't believe that nonsense
is
still floating around. At least with current technology, a gun still
needs
metal to surround the round in the chamber, even if the rest of the
thing is
made of a composite material.


Okay, even if that were true (which it isn't - think "high tech
ceramics") what would the weapon you describe look like going through
a baggage xray? It sure wouldn't look like a gun if all you saw was a
metal tube.

BB


Watch it fella...you say metal tube here and one of the right-wing
assholes here will report you to the FBI. Which right-wing asshole? Can
you say "husband of Jayne..."?

P.S. Those metal tubes Condi Rice said Saddam had? They came from
Cuba...the best Havanas are packaged in aluminum tubes.

....and fugettabout fancy pens made of stainless steel!

Doug Kanter wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors.

Plastic weapons? Did he really say that? I can't believe that nonsense
is
still floating around. At least with current technology, a gun still
needs
metal to surround the round in the chamber, even if the rest of the
thing is
made of a composite material. Was Edwards referring to plastic eating
utensils? :-)

The point was the Cheney voted against banning such weapons, not that
they exist.

jps

OK, but it should be embarrassing to even mention the existence of such
things. Even the anti-gun lobby doesn't talk about it any more. :-)




It's quite possible to make a handgun out of plastic, and carry a pen
whose barrel also serves as the chamber liner.


--
"...vice president (Cheney), I'm surprised to hear him talk about
records. When he was one of 435 members of the United States House, he
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors. He voted
against the Department of Education. He voted against funding for
Meals on Wheels for seniors. He voted against a holiday for Martin
Luther King. He voted against a resolution calling for the release of
Nelson Mandela in South Africa. It's amazing to hear him criticize
either my record or John Kerry's."

- Senator John Edwards, 10/05/04

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote
against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors.

Plastic weapons? Did he really say that? I can't believe that
nonsense
is
still floating around. At least with current technology, a gun still
needs
metal to surround the round in the chamber, even if the rest of the
thing is
made of a composite material. Was Edwards referring to plastic eating
utensils? :-)

The point was the Cheney voted against banning such weapons, not that
they exist.

jps

OK, but it should be embarrassing to even mention the existence of such
things. Even the anti-gun lobby doesn't talk about it any more. :-)




It's quite possible to make a handgun out of plastic, and carry a pen
whose barrel also serves as the chamber liner.

Yeah, but:
1) How quickly could you reload after the first shot before someone with an
attitude (like me) ripped a lunch tray off one of the seats and beat you to
death with it?

and

B) It's common knowledge that even a large caliber round like a .44 would
not do enough damage to bring down a plane. Even if it could, It would take
quite an engineering feat to design a plastic thing with a removable metal
tube that would withstand a powerful round, not to mention the need for it
to remain intact while being fired.

...oh....and:

III: You'd have to assemble it. Go back to the lunch tray. :-)

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote
against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors.

Plastic weapons? Did he really say that? I can't believe that
nonsense
is
still floating around. At least with current technology, a gun still
needs
metal to surround the round in the chamber, even if the rest of the
thing is
made of a composite material. Was Edwards referring to plastic eating
utensils? :-)

The point was the Cheney voted against banning such weapons, not that
they exist.

jps

OK, but it should be embarrassing to even mention the existence of such
things. Even the anti-gun lobby doesn't talk about it any more. :-)




It's quite possible to make a handgun out of plastic, and carry a pen
whose barrel also serves as the chamber liner.

Yeah, but:
1) How quickly could you reload after the first shot before someone with an
attitude (like me) ripped a lunch tray off one of the seats and beat you to
death with it?

and

B) It's common knowledge that even a large caliber round like a .44 would
not do enough damage to bring down a plane. Even if it could, It would take
quite an engineering feat to design a plastic thing with a removable metal
tube that would withstand a powerful round, not to mention the need for it
to remain intact while being fired.

..oh....and:

III: You'd have to assemble it. Go back to the lunch tray. :-)



You're splitting hairs. The question was whether a plastic gun could be
slipped aboard an airliner. The answer is, yes, since the barrel liner
could be brought aboard as part of a writing pen.

As for "some assembly required," well, there's always sneaking off to
the head.


As for doing it, well, I'll leave that to one of right-wing nutcases who
log on here...terrorism is the bailiwick of the conservatives.


--
"...vice president (Cheney), I'm surprised to hear him talk about
records. When he was one of 435 members of the United States House, he
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors. He voted
against the Department of Education. He voted against funding for
Meals on Wheels for seniors. He voted against a holiday for Martin
Luther King. He voted against a resolution calling for the release of
Nelson Mandela in South Africa. It's amazing to hear him criticize
either my record or John Kerry's."

- Senator John Edwards, 10/05/04