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Off the Topic. I'm waiting to see...
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:57:01 GMT, Joe Parsons wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:46:10 -0500, JohnH wrote: On 14 Dec 2003 16:30:58 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote: John H wrote: all the congratulatory messages from Harry, jps, basskisser, gould, et al. our capture of Saddam. You're not very patient. It's just after 8 AM on the W coast, on a Sunday morning. Go and fornicate yourself, John. Don't you ever dare to post an implication that I don't wish the best for this country and our 300 million fellow citizens. Your screwed up perspective is that you, only you, and those who think exactly like you have the only valid opinions about how our society should run and what direction national policies should take. You shouldn't believe everything you hear on Rush Limbaugh. The high percentage of Americans who disagree with your views are not traitors or national enemies. Yes, I'm damn glad he's caught. With the billions of dollars spent on an ill-advised war and the toll the entire adventure has taken on US credibility throughout the world, it's gratifiying to see that we have *something* tangible to show for it. But let me ask you this- does capturing a tyrant suddenly mean that all the statements Bush made to get us into Iraq in the firtst place are suddenly any more true than they were this time yesterday? Let's hope the insurgency tapers off in Iraq. If it does not, people will begin questioning the war more than ever - once the capture of SH is old news. Jeees. Where did I make this implication to which you refer? How much do I listen to Rush? I disagree with about 75% of Rush's statements. Catching Saddam has nothing to do with the truth of the statements Bush made. I believe Bush made his statements in good faith. You, et al, don't. Or at least you say you don't to maintain the party line. John, you can't reasonably know anyone's motivation behind making any statement. But I *can* make an assumption. While I agree with your comment with respect to the capture of Saddam, I believe it is still possible for reasonable people to conclude that our incursion into Iraq was sold to the Congress and to the country with faulty information. Did I deny that possibility? I think I simply stated *my* belief. Did GWB knowingly misrepresent the intelligence available at the time of the decision to commit our country to war? There's no way to know for certain--but for anyone who might have some level of distrust about Mr. Bush's motivations (as a significant segment of our population does have), it is not unreasonable to infer his motives. Point granted, to a point. I have no problem with someone inferring any motivation they like. I do have a problem with claiming as fact that which they cannot prove. Their inferences are based on assumptions. The fact that the inferences of some in that regard might be different from those of others does not mean that those people who oppose our involvement in the Middle East (or the way in which our involvement unfolds) are unpatriotic, unreasonable or unintelligent. It means they have evaluated the available data and arrived at their own conclusions. Have you seen me call someone 'unpatriotic'? Your bud, Harry, has made several posts without comment on the capture of Saddam. As yet, jps has had no comment. Wonder why? Could it be because they can't come up wit a way to put a negative spin on it? Could it be because they're not particularly interested in the topic? Last time I looked, no one was obligated to weigh in on *very* topic here. Keep reading. I'm sure you'll find negativity abounding. And while I'm at it, what leads you to believe that Chuck Gould is "buds" with the bilious Mr. Kraus? That is an example of an inference based on assumptions. It was not denied. Joe Parsons John On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD |
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