"jps" wrote in message

You've got to work on your ranting skills. I'd like you to quote from my
post where I said killing Iraqi kids was OK. My only point in the whole
thread is that these people are known to have planted shields in the past,
and that fact impacts on their credibility in the present. Nothing in that
premise condones the killing of kids.

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"jps" wrote in message

You've got to work on your ranting skills. I'd like you to quote from my
post where I said killing Iraqi kids was OK. My only point in the whole
thread is that these people are known to have planted shields in the past,
and that fact impacts on their credibility in the present. Nothing in that
premise condones the killing of kids.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
news:9N2Cb.7842

..... News reports of dead children -
those must be in my imagination.

Not at all, the report are real, and tragic. What is under-reported is
the fact that the target terrorists were successfully hit, target
venues were vetted in advance as clear of civilians, attack pilots saw
no children in the target area (in the one case that involved an open
field), and that the "placement" of civilian casualties is commonplace
in that part of the world, since they know full well that CNN will run
the story over and over and over. Ex post facto reports of civilian
casualties must of necessity be looked upon with a jaundiced eye.

I think my rantings are well-placed. You attempted to decrement the
validity of Doug's complaint of dead children by citing the fact that
these vermin use children as shields.

My point is: we would treat a perp who's thought responsible for
violence or murder in the states as hostile and ready for death by any
SWAT team. We would never consider taking him out if we knew he was
surrounded by kids.

If the kids are brown and half-way around the world it just doesn't
matter as much.

So much for our moral superiority.

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:24:45 -0800, jps wrote:

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says...

"jps" wrote in message

You've got to work on your ranting skills. I'd like you to quote from my
post where I said killing Iraqi kids was OK. My only point in the whole
thread is that these people are known to have planted shields in the past,
and that fact impacts on their credibility in the present. Nothing in that
premise condones the killing of kids.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
news:9N2Cb.7842

..... News reports of dead children -
those must be in my imagination.

Not at all, the report are real, and tragic. What is under-reported is
the fact that the target terrorists were successfully hit, target
venues were vetted in advance as clear of civilians, attack pilots saw
no children in the target area (in the one case that involved an open
field), and that the "placement" of civilian casualties is commonplace
in that part of the world, since they know full well that CNN will run
the story over and over and over. Ex post facto reports of civilian
casualties must of necessity be looked upon with a jaundiced eye.

I think my rantings are well-placed. You attempted to decrement the
validity of Doug's complaint of dead children by citing the fact that
these vermin use children as shields.

My point is: we would treat a perp who's thought responsible for
violence or murder in the states as hostile and ready for death by any
SWAT team. We would never consider taking him out if we knew he was
surrounded by kids.

If the kids are brown and half-way around the world it just doesn't
matter as much.

So much for our moral superiority.

Key words, jps, "...if we knew..."

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

In article ,
88 says...

Key words, jps, "...if we knew..."

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

We knew, how do you think we targeted the bomb?

It's a choice more easily made halfway around the world when the kids
are progeny of the "enemy" we're trying to "liberate."

There was complete outrage when we did the same thing to Randy Weaver
and the freak in Waco.

There's no outrage when they're brown.

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:31:25 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

Key words, jps, "...if we knew..."

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

We knew, how do you think we targeted the bomb?

It's a choice more easily made halfway around the world when the kids
are progeny of the "enemy" we're trying to "liberate."

There was complete outrage when we did the same thing to Randy Weaver
and the freak in Waco.

There's no outrage when they're brown.

Are you stating that we knew we were about to bomb children? You do, of course,
have some back up for this statement. Or is this simply your opinion of the
armed forces of this country?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

In article ,
88 says...
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:31:25 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

Key words, jps, "...if we knew..."

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

We knew, how do you think we targeted the bomb?

It's a choice more easily made halfway around the world when the kids
are progeny of the "enemy" we're trying to "liberate."

There was complete outrage when we did the same thing to Randy Weaver
and the freak in Waco.

There's no outrage when they're brown.

Are you stating that we knew we were about to bomb children? You do, of course,
have some back up for this statement. Or is this simply your opinion of the
armed forces of this country?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

The report I heard said they had specifically sighted him and the
location was phoned in for either an air strike or another form of
precision attack.

If a target walks into a house and you have no idea what's in the house
besides the target, is it okay just to bomb?

jps

Yes

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
88 says...
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:31:25 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

Key words, jps, "...if we knew..."

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

We knew, how do you think we targeted the bomb?

It's a choice more easily made halfway around the world when the kids
are progeny of the "enemy" we're trying to "liberate."

There was complete outrage when we did the same thing to Randy Weaver
and the freak in Waco.

There's no outrage when they're brown.

Are you stating that we knew we were about to bomb children? You do, of
course,
have some back up for this statement. Or is this simply your opinion of
the
armed forces of this country?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

The report I heard said they had specifically sighted him and the
location was phoned in for either an air strike or another form of
precision attack.

If a target walks into a house and you have no idea what's in the house
besides the target, is it okay just to bomb?

jps

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
88 says...
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:31:25 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

Key words, jps, "...if we knew..."

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

We knew, how do you think we targeted the bomb?

It's a choice more easily made halfway around the world when the kids
are progeny of the "enemy" we're trying to "liberate."

There was complete outrage when we did the same thing to Randy Weaver
and the freak in Waco.

There's no outrage when they're brown.

Are you stating that we knew we were about to bomb children? You do, of
course,
have some back up for this statement. Or is this simply your opinion of
the
armed forces of this country?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

The report I heard said they had specifically sighted him and the
location was phoned in for either an air strike or another form of
precision attack.

If a target walks into a house and you have no idea what's in the house
besides the target, is it okay just to bomb?

Absolutely...in the same way that I think it's appropriate to shoot down a
hijacked airliner if it can be determined the hijackers are planning to
kamikaze the plane into a densely populated target.

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:43:29 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:31:25 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

Key words, jps, "...if we knew..."

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

We knew, how do you think we targeted the bomb?

It's a choice more easily made halfway around the world when the kids
are progeny of the "enemy" we're trying to "liberate."

There was complete outrage when we did the same thing to Randy Weaver
and the freak in Waco.

There's no outrage when they're brown.

Are you stating that we knew we were about to bomb children? You do, of course,
have some back up for this statement. Or is this simply your opinion of the
armed forces of this country?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

The report I heard said they had specifically sighted him and the
location was phoned in for either an air strike or another form of
precision attack.

If a target walks into a house and you have no idea what's in the house
besides the target, is it okay just to bomb?

jps

This situation is much different from that of our purposely bombing children,
which is what you have been implying. You, thunder, and Harry -- birds of a
feather...!

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

"jps" wrote in message

....We would never consider taking him out if we knew he was
surrounded by kids.

And I believe the same principle applies in Iraq. If we know.