Doug,
It is nice to see someone call a spade a spade. That is exactly what I was
trying to get Gould to realize. He was trying to say that Kerry was taking
the high road and only Bush was slinging mud.
When in reality, they both are.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:bSk5d.51755$wV.35637@attbi_s54...
Do you agree that Kerry is using the exact same tactics that upsets you
when
it is used by a Bush supporter?

The tactics may be the same, but the results will be different if Kerry
wins: We'll have a president who, even if he's no magician, will still not
be a complete idiot, fresh from the "special bus". Seriously - I knew
speed
(amphetamine) freaks when I was much younger. They were damaged beyond
repair. They behaved PRECISELY as Bush does. So, who cares how Kerry gets
into the White House? We can't have damaged goods any more.

You just realized this? I explained to you before the weekend that when
dealing with a certain audience, it was necessary to use cold water,
electric shock, or whatever it takes to wake them up and make them realize
that (as many ancient activists used to say), "If you're not part of the
solution, you're part of the problem".

You don't seem to be paying attention.

"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:H906d.126740$D%.111173@attbi_s51...
Doug,
It is nice to see someone call a spade a spade. That is exactly what I
was
trying to get Gould to realize. He was trying to say that Kerry was
taking
the high road and only Bush was slinging mud.
When in reality, they both are.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:bSk5d.51755$wV.35637@attbi_s54...
Do you agree that Kerry is using the exact same tactics that upsets you
when
it is used by a Bush supporter?

The tactics may be the same, but the results will be different if Kerry
wins: We'll have a president who, even if he's no magician, will still
not
be a complete idiot, fresh from the "special bus". Seriously - I knew
speed
(amphetamine) freaks when I was much younger. They were damaged beyond
repair. They behaved PRECISELY as Bush does. So, who cares how Kerry
gets
into the White House? We can't have damaged goods any more.

Nope, I completely agree and never disagreed with your thesis. It is Gould
who disagrees with you.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
You just realized this? I explained to you before the weekend that when
dealing with a certain audience, it was necessary to use cold water,
electric shock, or whatever it takes to wake them up and make them realize
that (as many ancient activists used to say), "If you're not part of the
solution, you're part of the problem".

You don't seem to be paying attention.

"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:H906d.126740$D%.111173@attbi_s51...
Doug,
It is nice to see someone call a spade a spade. That is exactly what I
was
trying to get Gould to realize. He was trying to say that Kerry was
taking
the high road and only Bush was slinging mud.
When in reality, they both are.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:bSk5d.51755$wV.35637@attbi_s54...
Do you agree that Kerry is using the exact same tactics that upsets
you
when
it is used by a Bush supporter?

The tactics may be the same, but the results will be different if Kerry
wins: We'll have a president who, even if he's no magician, will still
not
be a complete idiot, fresh from the "special bus". Seriously - I knew
speed
(amphetamine) freaks when I was much younger. They were damaged beyond
repair. They behaved PRECISELY as Bush does. So, who cares how Kerry
gets
into the White House? We can't have damaged goods any more.

He was trying to say that Kerry was taking
the high road and only Bush was slinging mud.

Would you care to furnish some examples of untrue things that John Kerry has
said about George Bush or his policies?

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
He was trying to say that Kerry was taking
the high road and only Bush was slinging mud.

Would you care to furnish some examples of untrue things that John Kerry
has
said about George Bush or his policies?

How about we start with the million he claims are without health insurance
benefits because of Bush.

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 07:56:53 -0400, jim-- wrote:


How about we start with the million he claims are without health insurance
benefits because of Bush.

http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=192

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 07:56:53 -0400, jim-- wrote:


How about we start with the million he claims are without health
insurance
benefits because of Bush.

http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=192

So how is that Bush's fault?

BTW: I am now JimH to make Harry happy.

thunder wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 07:56:53 -0400, jim-- wrote:


How about we start with the million he claims are without health insurance
benefits because of Bush.

http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=192


Indeed, Bush has done nothing significant to help the 43 million
Americans without access to health insurance, and most of these folks do
not have access to decent health care, either. Another area where Bush
failed.




--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

Indeed, Bush has done nothing significant to help the 43 million
Americans without access to health insurance, and most of these folks do
not have access to decent health care, either. Another area where Bush
failed.

Hey, this is America, not Russia. Those lazy n'er-do-wells who don't have
health insurance should just get a second, or third job, or as many as it takes
to earn the money to pay for it. Or go without. Whoever promised these people a
free ride?

(My wife and I have contemplated retirement. We're in our early to mid-50's.
One of the spoilers is health insurance.
In our state, coverage for the two of us would approach $1400 a month, and
continue to go up each year as we age. Easily done if either one of us is
working- but what sort of retirement would it be with one spouse working? How
many burger flippers can afford $1400 a month?)

While we're at it, we need to review our minimum wage laws. Why shouldn't the
free market set salaries and wages? If I can find somebody desparate enough to
work for $2.75 an hour, I should be able to pay that little, (and bill their
time at $75).
Until we drive our expendable working class into the same kind of poverty and
deprivation they experience in India, Thailand, etc, how are we ever going to
sustain corporate profits and still compete with the products we import from
overseas?

" jim--" wrote in message
...

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
He was trying to say that Kerry was taking
the high road and only Bush was slinging mud.

Would you care to furnish some examples of untrue things that John Kerry
has
said about George Bush or his policies?

How about we start with the million he claims are without health insurance
benefits because of Bush.

Or the jobs lost 'because' of Bush

Or that Bush has a secret plan to bring back the draft

Or that Bush has a secret plan to destroy dairy farmers

etc etc.