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Backyard Renegade wrote:
But on the other hand, the "blacklist" that Harry posted it useless. Attacking the from field is not the way to go, you must go for the money. My goal is to lower the amount of email spam I get. If I get more than a couple of spams from an ISP, I blacklist it and the spam from that ISP stops. Ergo, my method works. And I do check the filter log from time to time to set what's in there. Lots of SPAM from such lovely irresponsible sites as JUNO. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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Harry, I gotta say this again until you understand it:
Most of the From: addresses in spam are complete bull****. Either they are completely false, or they are someone who has ****ed off the spam industry. There are lots of legit folks on juno, yahoo, etc., so you are cutting off your nose to spite your face. I used to do a variation on what you do. About once a month I'd review recent spam, and blacklist the obvious IDs and ISPs, but not blacklist the large ISPs (juno, yahoo, etc.) which were bound to have a certain amount of "misuse". A year ago, this, plus a couple of other simple rules were about 70 percent effective. By about three months ago, it had dropped to 50% effective and the increasing volume of spam (I get 150 a day) had greatly increased the amount of work required to analyze it. I switched to Mozilla, and within a week of training (which was less work than my analysis of that week would have been), it was 95% effective. Try Mozilla, turn on the spam filter, you'll like it, I guarantee it. -- Chuck Tribolet http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/people/triblet Silicon Valley: STILL the best day job in the world. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Backyard Renegade wrote: But on the other hand, the "blacklist" that Harry posted it useless. Attacking the from field is not the way to go, you must go for the money. My goal is to lower the amount of email spam I get. If I get more than a couple of spams from an ISP, I blacklist it and the spam from that ISP stops. Ergo, my method works. And I do check the filter log from time to time to set what's in there. Lots of SPAM from such lovely irresponsible sites as JUNO. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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Chuck Tribolet wrote: Harry, I gotta say this again until you understand it: Most of the From: addresses in spam are complete bull****. Either they are completely false, or they are someone who has ****ed off the spam industry. Does that include spam from such domain names as fantasticoffers.com, doodlebug.com, quakefest.com, slamdunk.com, spyvalues.com (all real, btw)...other domains that include the words sex, special, bargain, mortgage, offer, bargain, bingo, casino...and at least 100 others? I don't think so...'cuz spam from senders using these return addresses IS bounce-able, which means they're real. But if it does, I don't care...because, whether they sent THIS spam or not, they're still spammers...and deserve to buried under so much returned mail that their servers explode. Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327 http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
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Yes, there are some domain names that you can figure out are
spamsters. Unfortunately, they are a quickly shrinking fraction. A year ago, that worked. It doesn't work today. Here's an analysis of the From: in the I've received since about 11/26. The number on the left of spams I've received that purported to be From: the domain on the right. 1977 spams in a couple of weeks. Do the math -- black listing doesn't work. But try the Mozilla spam filter -- it really does. I have not relationship to Mozilla other than being a VERY happy user. 210 yahoo.com 95 hotmail.com 87 msn.com 74 aol.com 33 co.uk 27 garlic.com 19 com.tw 18 bluerocketonline.com 18 juno.com 16 excite.com 15 dbhits.com 14 earthlink.net 14 yahoo.ca 13 hinet.net 13 lycos.com 13 mail.com 12 earthlink.com 12 tekmailer.com 12 zzn.com 11 ehdhd.com 11 emailbenefits.com 11 mindspring.com 10 aptimus.net 10 infobig.biz 10 lolslideshow.com 9 att.net 9 cpt0.us 9 email.com 9 netscape.com 8 com.ar 8 com.cn 8 dq08.net 8 kingfo.biz 8 mymailcall.com 8 sprint.com 8 verizon.net 7 com.au 7 rr.com 7 shysterbob.com 7 wongfaye.com 7 zm01.net 6 cnn.com 6 cool-event.com 6 hellokitty.com 6 minedu.fi 6 moonjupiter.com 6 nexusamerica.com 6 nsmex.com 6 ss01.net 6 tele.dk 6 vfmailer.com 6 yahoo-inc.com 6 yahoo.fr 6 youkickedmydog.net 5 163.net 5 bigfoot.com 5 canada.com 5 chinaren.com 5 finland.fi 5 geocities.com 5 gmx.net 5 mailcity.com 5 mst.dk 5 net.au 5 net.cn 5 netscape.net 5 pacbell.net 5 pulsebuzz.com 5 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"Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... Chuck Tribolet wrote: Harry, I gotta say this again until you understand it: Most of the From: addresses in spam are complete bull****. Either they are completely false, or they are someone who has ****ed off the spam industry. Does that include spam from such domain names as fantasticoffers.com, doodlebug.com, quakefest.com, slamdunk.com, spyvalues.com (all real, btw)...other domains that include the words sex, special, bargain, mortgage, offer, bargain, bingo, casino...and at least 100 others? I don't think so...'cuz spam from senders using these return addresses IS bounce-able, which means they're real. But if it does, I don't care...because, whether they sent THIS spam or not, they're still spammers...and deserve to buried under so much returned mail that their servers explode. Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327 http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:37:12 -0800, "Chuck Tribolet"
wrote: Yes, there are some domain names that you can figure out are spamsters. Unfortunately, they are a quickly shrinking fraction. A year ago, that worked. It doesn't work today. Here's an analysis of the From: in the I've received since about 11/26. The number on the left of spams I've received that purported to be From: the domain on the right. 1977 spams in a couple of weeks. Do the math -- black listing doesn't work. But try the Mozilla spam filter -- it really does. snipped list Mozilla does help, so does ISP cooperation like Earthlink Webmail. Nothing is 100%. One important factor that most "ISP blockers" are neglecting is that email addresses can be "spooged". In other words, spammers can send email which appear to be from *any* email address. I have received several fraud-mails, asking for "account and credit verification", which DID NOT come from the address listed. Three of them were dead-ringers for my ISP account. I forwarded them to my ISP, and they reported spooged headers. Simply blocking a bunch of domains or ISPs is like killing all the chickens because you got a rotten egg. You might as well shut down all your email accounts or, better yet, turn off the computer. They sure as hell can't get you then! ) Repaired my boat cover today. The damage was my own fault. 20" of wet snow is a bit more than a cover can hold. Gotta' build a shed, or get one of those "Suburbian Teepees". Regards, noah Off-topic posting is a bit like farting in a house of worship. Only children, the arrogant, or the ignorant, can truly enjoy it. Only the arrogant and the ignorant insist on it. To email me, remove the "OT-" from OT-wrecked.boats.noah. ....as you were. ) |
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It's "spoofed" not "spooged"
-- Chuck Tribolet http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/people/triblet Silicon Valley: STILL the best day job in the world. "noah" wrote in message ... On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:37:12 -0800, "Chuck Tribolet" wrote: Yes, there are some domain names that you can figure out are spamsters. Unfortunately, they are a quickly shrinking fraction. A year ago, that worked. It doesn't work today. Here's an analysis of the From: in the I've received since about 11/26. The number on the left of spams I've received that purported to be From: the domain on the right. 1977 spams in a couple of weeks. Do the math -- black listing doesn't work. But try the Mozilla spam filter -- it really does. snipped list Mozilla does help, so does ISP cooperation like Earthlink Webmail. Nothing is 100%. One important factor that most "ISP blockers" are neglecting is that email addresses can be "spooged". In other words, spammers can send email which appear to be from *any* email address. I have received several fraud-mails, asking for "account and credit verification", which DID NOT come from the address listed. Three of them were dead-ringers for my ISP account. I forwarded them to my ISP, and they reported spooged headers. Simply blocking a bunch of domains or ISPs is like killing all the chickens because you got a rotten egg. You might as well shut down all your email accounts or, better yet, turn off the computer. They sure as hell can't get you then! ) Repaired my boat cover today. The damage was my own fault. 20" of wet snow is a bit more than a cover can hold. Gotta' build a shed, or get one of those "Suburbian Teepees". Regards, noah Off-topic posting is a bit like farting in a house of worship. Only children, the arrogant, or the ignorant, can truly enjoy it. Only the arrogant and the ignorant insist on it. To email me, remove the "OT-" from OT-wrecked.boats.noah. ...as you were. ) |
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:06:38 -0800, "Chuck Tribolet" wrote:
It's "spoofed" not "spooged" "Spooge" is that yukky stuff in the middle of the freeway that you want to avoid when you're riding a motorcycle. Joe Parsons |
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:06:38 -0800, "Chuck Tribolet"
wrote: It's "spoofed" not "spooged" I guess it depends on where you are. My ISP referred to the problems as "spooged", and their email was . I don't care what they called it, they handled it. I know, it's tough for us old farts to keep up. Regards, noah ******************** Off-topic posting is a bit like farting in a house of worship. Only children, the arrogant, or the ignorant, can truly enjoy it. Only the arrogant and the ignorant insist on it. To email me, remove the "OT-" from OT-wrecked.boats.noah. ....as you were. ) |
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Chuck Tribolet wrote:
Yes, there are some domain names that you can figure out are spamsters. Unfortunately, they are a quickly shrinking fraction. A year ago, that worked. It doesn't work today. Here's an analysis of the From: in the I've received since about 11/26. Your list confirms my experience: yahoo in its various incarnations is by far the most popular spoofed return address...I wonder why so many of 'em choose it over all the others on your list. I finally just set up Mailwasher to delete ALL email with a yahoo return address. Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327 http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
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The problem is that there are a LOT of legit folks on yahoo.
I've had 16 legit e-mails from yahoo residents in the last two days. So just blocking everybody on yahoo doesn't work. Again, try the Mozilla spam blocker. I've been a software nerd for 35 years, and I'm hard to impress. It impressed me. -- Chuck Tribolet http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/people/triblet Silicon Valley: STILL the best day job in the world. "Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... Chuck Tribolet wrote: Yes, there are some domain names that you can figure out are spamsters. Unfortunately, they are a quickly shrinking fraction. A year ago, that worked. It doesn't work today. Here's an analysis of the From: in the I've received since about 11/26. Your list confirms my experience: yahoo in its various incarnations is by far the most popular spoofed return address...I wonder why so many of 'em choose it over all the others on your list. I finally just set up Mailwasher to delete ALL email with a yahoo return address. Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327 http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
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