On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:50:07 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Tom S wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 07:17:53 -0500, Icon O'Clast wrote:

Terrorist Attack at Ohio School -- 13 shot, 4 dead
Kent State, May 4, 1970. Lessons from History News(c) 2004

You are an asshole. Posting this on 9/11. Go **** yourself you slimey piece
of ****!


We will never forget.


Good thing too. Never forget that charging a group of scared, heavily
armed people with mayhem on your mind may lead to your death.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

"Gunner" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:50:07 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Tom S wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 07:17:53 -0500, Icon O'Clast wrote:

Terrorist Attack at Ohio School -- 13 shot, 4 dead
Kent State, May 4, 1970. Lessons from History News(c) 2004

You are an asshole. Posting this on 9/11. Go **** yourself you slimey
piece
of ****!


We will never forget.


Good thing too. Never forget that charging a group of scared, heavily
armed people with mayhem on your mind may lead to your death.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

It was a case of poorly trained for the job guardsmen. According to you any
time the police arrive at a riot and there are things being tossed, they
should start shooting?
Bill

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 20:19:43 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:50:07 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Tom S wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 07:17:53 -0500, Icon O'Clast wrote:

Terrorist Attack at Ohio School -- 13 shot, 4 dead
Kent State, May 4, 1970. Lessons from History News(c) 2004

You are an asshole. Posting this on 9/11. Go **** yourself you slimey
piece
of ****!


We will never forget.


Good thing too. Never forget that charging a group of scared, heavily
armed people with mayhem on your mind may lead to your death.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

It was a case of poorly trained for the job guardsmen. According to you any
time the police arrive at a riot and there are things being tossed, they
should start shooting?
Bill

Your reading comprehension issues are noted. And laughed at.
You didnt get a passing grade in Logic, 101 did you?

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 20:19:43 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:50:07 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Tom S wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 07:17:53 -0500, Icon O'Clast wrote:

Terrorist Attack at Ohio School -- 13 shot, 4 dead
Kent State, May 4, 1970. Lessons from History News(c) 2004

You are an asshole. Posting this on 9/11. Go **** yourself you
slimey
piece
of ****!


We will never forget.


Good thing too. Never forget that charging a group of scared, heavily
armed people with mayhem on your mind may lead to your death.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

It was a case of poorly trained for the job guardsmen. According to you
any
time the police arrive at a riot and there are things being tossed, they
should start shooting?
Bill

Your reading comprehension issues are noted. And laughed at.
You didnt get a passing grade in Logic, 101 did you?

Gunner


Seems you have no reading comprehension or any logic background what so
ever. So, I ask again, the cops should shoot when ever things are thrown at
them?

Calif Bill wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 20:19:43 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:50:07 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:


Tom S wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 07:17:53 -0500, Icon O'Clast wrote:


Terrorist Attack at Ohio School -- 13 shot, 4 dead
Kent State, May 4, 1970. Lessons from History News(c) 2004


You are an asshole. Posting this on 9/11. Go **** yourself you

slimey

piece

of ****!


We will never forget.


Good thing too. Never forget that charging a group of scared, heavily
armed people with mayhem on your mind may lead to your death.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

It was a case of poorly trained for the job guardsmen. According to you

any

time the police arrive at a riot and there are things being tossed, they
should start shooting?
Bill


Your reading comprehension issues are noted. And laughed at.
You didnt get a passing grade in Logic, 101 did you?

Gunner



Seems you have no reading comprehension or any logic background what so
ever. So, I ask again, the cops should shoot when ever things are thrown at
them?

I believe the criteria is to answer lethal violence with
lethal violence. Throwing a papered is not lethal. From
what I read, the students were EARLIER throwing tear gas
canisters back at the guard, along with a few rocks. rocks
are not lethal to helmeted guardsmen.

When the shooting started the guard was something like 600
ft from the students. How many people do you know who can
toss a rock that far?

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:47:48 GMT, Jim wrote:


Seems you have no reading comprehension or any logic background what so
ever. So, I ask again, the cops should shoot when ever things are thrown at
them?

I believe the criteria is to answer lethal violence with
lethal violence. Throwing a papered is not lethal. From
what I read, the students were EARLIER throwing tear gas
canisters back at the guard, along with a few rocks. rocks
are not lethal to helmeted guardsmen.

Yes, rocks are lethal to helmeted guardsmen. Clobber some guy mid
sturnum and lets ask the coroner what killed him, shall we?

When the shooting started the guard was something like 600
ft from the students. How many people do you know who can
toss a rock that far?


Sigh..first one of you clods claims it was 60 feet, another 600,
another 6 feet. Wont any of you bozos actually do the research and get
back to us with a firm answer?

Hint smuck...600 feet is 200 yrds...do your research better , ok?

Gunner


"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

Sigh..first one of you clods claims it was 60 feet, another 600,
another 6 feet. Wont any of you bozos actually do the research and get
back to us with a firm answer?

That's an odd comment, Gunner. You insist the students were charging the
guardsmen, and that it was "hand to hand" combat. Why would you need somebody
to research the distances for you? (The congressional investigation listed
several students who were shot from between 300-400 feet away).

"Jim" wrote

I believe the criteria is to answer lethal violence with
lethal violence.

Wow! A Neocon who sides with the government in Ruby Ridge and Waco!

Will the world never cease to amaze?

Dan

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:41:38 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 20:19:43 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:50:07 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Tom S wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 07:17:53 -0500, Icon O'Clast wrote:

Terrorist Attack at Ohio School -- 13 shot, 4 dead
Kent State, May 4, 1970. Lessons from History News(c) 2004

You are an asshole. Posting this on 9/11. Go **** yourself you
slimey
piece
of ****!


We will never forget.


Good thing too. Never forget that charging a group of scared, heavily
armed people with mayhem on your mind may lead to your death.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

It was a case of poorly trained for the job guardsmen. According to you
any
time the police arrive at a riot and there are things being tossed, they
should start shooting?
Bill

Your reading comprehension issues are noted. And laughed at.
You didnt get a passing grade in Logic, 101 did you?

Gunner


Seems you have no reading comprehension or any logic background what so
ever. So, I ask again, the cops should shoot when ever things are thrown at
them?

Of course not. Its on a case by case basis. If the crowd was hurling
deadly ping pong balls at them, Id say no. If the crowd was hurling
molotov cocktails, or rocks or bottles at them, Id have to say yes.

So remember boys and girls..if you dont want to die..dont hurl deadly
objects at the men with guns. If you really want to hurt them, get
your own guns and have a pitched battle.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

Gunner wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:41:38 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote

Seems you have no reading comprehension or any logic background what so
ever. So, I ask again, the cops should shoot when ever things are thrown at
them?


Of course not. Its on a case by case basis. If the crowd was hurling
deadly ping pong balls at them, Id say no. If the crowd was hurling
molotov cocktails, or rocks or bottles at them, Id have to say yes.

So remember boys and girls..if you dont want to die..dont hurl deadly
objects at the men with guns. If you really want to hurt them, get
your own guns and have a pitched battle.

Gunner

There is no middle ground between a peaceful protest and an ambush. To
have a successful peaceful protest all of the protesters must remain
peaceful even if the opposition is not. At Kent State the National
Guard was peaceful though well armed. But a few protesters chose to use
rocks against troops with firearms. A thrown rock is a lethal weapon.
Before firearms became common tremendous numbers of battle deaths
resulted from thrown rocks (mostly from slings). The rock throwing was
exceptionally foolish as it justified (and arguably required) the troops
to fire in self defense. Had most of the protesters thrown rocks they
could have killed the guardsmen who were greatly outnumbered. The
fault (if fault needs to be assigned) lies with a few undiciplined rock
throwers, not with the National Guard.