"WaIIy" wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 22:02:27 -0400, "jim--" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Five footers on Chesapeake Bay ain't pretty. It's not like five footers
out on the ocean. On the Bay, waves that size are going to be breaking,
and with the shifty winds, coming at you from several directions, and
with the peaks fairly close together. Running five footers on the ocean
can be fun; on the Bay, it loosens your fillings.



No worse than 5 footers on shallow Lake Erie. Not fun but no big deal.


Harry gives a good description of what 5 footers are on Lake Erie.

Anyone that says 5 footers on Lake Erie are no big deal, watch them on
tv from their living room.

"WaIIy" wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 22:02:27 -0400, "jim--" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Five footers on Chesapeake Bay ain't pretty. It's not like five footers
out on the ocean. On the Bay, waves that size are going to be breaking,
and with the shifty winds, coming at you from several directions, and
with the peaks fairly close together. Running five footers on the ocean
can be fun; on the Bay, it loosens your fillings.



No worse than 5 footers on shallow Lake Erie. Not fun but no big deal.


Harry gives a good description of what 5 footers are on Lake Erie.

Anyone that says 5 footers on Lake Erie are no big deal, watch them on
tv from their living room.

Sorry Wally, been out in 3-5's many times. No big deal.

"WaIIy" wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:44:31 -0400, "jim--" wrote:


"WaIIy" wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 22:02:27 -0400, "jim--" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Five footers on Chesapeake Bay ain't pretty. It's not like five
footers
out on the ocean. On the Bay, waves that size are going to be
breaking,
and with the shifty winds, coming at you from several directions, and
with the peaks fairly close together. Running five footers on the
ocean
can be fun; on the Bay, it loosens your fillings.



No worse than 5 footers on shallow Lake Erie. Not fun but no big deal.


Harry gives a good description of what 5 footers are on Lake Erie.

Anyone that says 5 footers on Lake Erie are no big deal, watch them on
tv from their living room.

Sorry Wally, been out in 3-5's many times. No big deal.


Three footers and five footers on Lake Erie are two completely different
animals.

No kidding.....especially on the west end when the wind is coming from the
east.



What boat do you have?

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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:44:31 -0400, "jim--" wrote:


"WaIIy" wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 22:02:27 -0400, "jim--" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Five footers on Chesapeake Bay ain't pretty. It's not like five
footers
out on the ocean. On the Bay, waves that size are going to be
breaking,
and with the shifty winds, coming at you from several directions, and
with the peaks fairly close together. Running five footers on the
ocean
can be fun; on the Bay, it loosens your fillings.



No worse than 5 footers on shallow Lake Erie. Not fun but no big deal.


Harry gives a good description of what 5 footers are on Lake Erie.

Anyone that says 5 footers on Lake Erie are no big deal, watch them on
tv from their living room.

Sorry Wally, been out in 3-5's many times. No big deal.


Three footers and five footers on Lake Erie are two completely different
animals.

What boat do you have?

I just sold a 3200 Maxum SCR. Prior to that I had a Sundancer 270. Prior
to that I had a Chris Craft Scorpion 210. Any my very first boat was a 16
foot trihull for inland lakes. I have been on the water all my life.

We live less than a mile from the Lake. We boated for the past 25+ years
and have been in waves up to 6-8 footers with the Maxum...in fact from
Leamington, Canada to Kelley's Island. We went out regularly in 3-5 footers
to get to the islands. I picked up the Searay and delivered it to our dock
in at least 3-5 footers.

And if you don't know that waves are observed in a 3-5 foot category, as
well as others, then you obviously don't boat.

Yep 3-5 footers are not comfortable but they are not terrible.

So what boat do you have?

I'm NOT interested in getting involved in another of your long, inane
arguments.
How's that crappy little sailbote of yours? Ready to take on Long Island
Sound?

see hoary? already you have forgotten that my Porta-Bote does not have the
optional sailing rig.

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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:56:46 -0400, "jim--" wrote:


"WaIIy" wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:44:31 -0400, "jim--" wrote:


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On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 22:02:27 -0400, "jim--" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Five footers on Chesapeake Bay ain't pretty. It's not like five
footers
out on the ocean. On the Bay, waves that size are going to be
breaking,
and with the shifty winds, coming at you from several directions,
and
with the peaks fairly close together. Running five footers on the
ocean
can be fun; on the Bay, it loosens your fillings.



No worse than 5 footers on shallow Lake Erie. Not fun but no big
deal.


Harry gives a good description of what 5 footers are on Lake Erie.

Anyone that says 5 footers on Lake Erie are no big deal, watch them on
tv from their living room.

Sorry Wally, been out in 3-5's many times. No big deal.


Three footers and five footers on Lake Erie are two completely different
animals.

What boat do you have?

I just sold a 3200 Maxum SCR. Prior to that I had a Sundancer 270. Prior
to that I had a Chris Craft Scorpion 210. Any my very first boat was a 16
foot trihull for inland lakes. I have been on the water all my life.

We live less than a mile from the Lake.

Well, I live about a mile from the lake and lived on the lake for six
years.

Good for you.



We boated for the past 25+ years
and have been in waves up to 6-8 footers with the Maxum...in fact from
Leamington, Canada to Kelley's Island. We went out regularly in 3-5
footers
to get to the islands.

Then what? Rocked and rolled on a mooring ball or rafted off to other
boats bouncing like a yo-yo?

Have you ever been to Kelleys and docked at Seaway? Not much rocking and
rolling there. Even Unique Marker is pretty well protected. Did the
mooring buoys at Put in Bay once during the day and the Lake was pretty flat
though.


I picked up the Searay and delivered it to our dock
in at least 3-5 footers.

And if you don't know that waves are observed in a 3-5 foot category, as
well as others, then you obviously don't boat.

Obviously

Well, OK if you say so.


Yep 3-5 footers are not comfortable but they are not terrible.

All I can say is, I think you are not very good at judging wave height.

I rely on what is being reported and my experience. White caps form at
about 3. When it is 3-5 out there you will see 5 footers. Believe
otherwise if you want.

And you are an expert at wave heights? Ever been out in 3-5's? BTW...I
would not go out in them when we had the 21 footer.



So what boat do you have?

http://thebayguide.com/rec.boats/wallys.html

So you cannot handle 5 footers in the boat? Seems like it is not the boat
but the captain.

Looks like Huron Lagoons Marina. We were there for 7 years. You would not
happen to be that drunk across from us (when we were there on the D side)
who fell in the water every weekend would you?

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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:56:46 -0400, "jim--" wrote:


"WaIIy" wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:44:31 -0400, "jim--" wrote:


"WaIIy" wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 22:02:27 -0400, "jim--" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Five footers on Chesapeake Bay ain't pretty. It's not like five
footers
out on the ocean. On the Bay, waves that size are going to be
breaking,
and with the shifty winds, coming at you from several directions,
and
with the peaks fairly close together. Running five footers on the
ocean
can be fun; on the Bay, it loosens your fillings.



No worse than 5 footers on shallow Lake Erie. Not fun but no big
deal.


Harry gives a good description of what 5 footers are on Lake Erie.

Anyone that says 5 footers on Lake Erie are no big deal, watch them on
tv from their living room.

Sorry Wally, been out in 3-5's many times. No big deal.


Three footers and five footers on Lake Erie are two completely different
animals.

What boat do you have?

I just sold a 3200 Maxum SCR. Prior to that I had a Sundancer 270. Prior
to that I had a Chris Craft Scorpion 210. Any my very first boat was a 16
foot trihull for inland lakes. I have been on the water all my life.

We live less than a mile from the Lake.

Well, I live about a mile from the lake and lived on the lake for six
years.

We boated for the past 25+ years
and have been in waves up to 6-8 footers with the Maxum...in fact from
Leamington, Canada to Kelley's Island. We went out regularly in 3-5
footers
to get to the islands.

Then what? Rocked and rolled on a mooring ball or rafted off to other
boats bouncing like a yo-yo?

I picked up the Searay and delivered it to our dock
in at least 3-5 footers.

And if you don't know that waves are observed in a 3-5 foot category, as
well as others, then you obviously don't boat.

Obviously

Yep 3-5 footers are not comfortable but they are not terrible.

All I can say is, I think you are not very good at judging wave height.

So what boat do you have?

http://thebayguide.com/rec.boats/wallys.html

Forgot to say, nice boat.

BTW: Heading out for the Lake in 1/2 hour for a trip over the Kelleys on my
friends Lyman. Maybe see you there

I'm trying to figure out what purpose a Sunfish would have *without* a
sailing rig..... an anchor, perhaps?

good question, gene. so why are you and hoary debating if my sunfish (or
Sunfish) has a sailing rig or not?

no, gene, my inflatable kayak does not need a sail, and I store it on the
foredeck of my sunfish (or is that Sunfish?)

From: "Gene Kearns"
Date: 8/19/2004 8:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

On 19 Aug 2004 02:27:44 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

I'm trying to figure out what purpose a Sunfish would have *without* a
sailing rig..... an anchor, perhaps?

good question, gene. so why are you and hoary debating if my sunfish (or
Sunfish) has a sailing rig or not?

Gosh, I thought we were talking about your..... uh...... inflatable
kayak?

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Gene Kearns wrote:

On 20 Aug 2004 01:33:32 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

no, gene, my inflatable kayak does not need a sail, and I store it on the
foredeck of my sunfish (or is that Sunfish?)


If your boat is made by Vanguard, it is a Sunfish.... if you have
some other euphemism you are trying to use by not capitalizing the
S.... I don't know what you are trying to say.

You, attired in the Speedos, piloting a Sunfish with an inflatable
kayak on the foredeck........ would, most assuredly, be quite a sight.



Mine was made by Alcort, in Waterbury, Connecticut...so there!


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