On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 08:42:33 -0500, Keyser Söze
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On 3/12/21 9:03 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 01:20:19 -0000 (UTC), Keyser Soze
wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 17:47:43 -0500, Keyser Söze
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On 3/12/21 5:27 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 10:18:43 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
https://ibb.co/nLVG10WWith trains, you don't have to deal with
airports or long rides to and from the airport to your eventual
destination. With trains, you usually don't have to deal with long
lines. With trains, you don't have to deal with crappy seats, even
the crappy seats in first class. With trains, you don't have to
contort yourself to pee standing up in the rest room. With trains, if
the engine fails, the train simply comes to a stop.-- * Lock up Trump
and his family of grifters. *

Enjoy your choo choo trains dummy. You don't sound right. Have you
had your head examined lately?

Harry just likes the idea that he can off load 2/3ds of the cost of
his train ticket on the tax payer. It is like Biden spending $86
Billion, we don't have, bailing out the pension plans of corrupt
unions in the "covid" bill.

Oh, right, because air travel isn't subsidized and neither are the
producers of the fuel burned in planes, trains, and automobiles and
cruise ships, et cetera.

Nothing like Amtrack. You really have to stretch to compare the
"subsidy" of airlines to trains.

Why not give us examples if you are so sure.

Yeah the government operates air traffic control but you would lose
your mind if I suggested privatizing that. The Airlines do kick money
into that budget.

Airlines pay gate fees to use government airports.

Any so called fuel subsidy is the same as the subsidy for the diesel
the trains buy, the truckers buy or the gas for your car. It still
gets taxed.

Sure the middle east eats a big part of the DoD budget but that is
more about Israel than it is about oil. We don't depend on Saudi oil
anymore. We get far more from Canada and Mexico than the middle east
and we are a net exporter now.


Amtrak is subsidized to the tune of $2 billion a year. Our new aircraft
carriers run about $13 billion to build. The Amtrak sudsidy is chicken
feed.

What do aircraft carriers have to do with airlines?
I have always landed at an airport.
Although it would be exciting to watch a 757 land on a carrier I want
to watch from another boat.
Can we go watch on your twin Volvo trawler :-)

As for your $2B subsidy, there were 16.8 million rail trips in the US
last year. That means we paid $119 to each passenger, just to ride the
train. 10.5m million of them were going to and from Penn Station.
Most of them were just coming in to NYC from Westchester county, Long
Island, Connecticut or Jersey. They claim commuter rail almost pays
it's own way so your $135 trip to Florida really cost about $500 and
the tax payer picked up the difference.


Aircraft carriers are nothing but floating targets to a technologically
advanced enemy. Why waste tens of billions of dollars on them when we
could be building a modern, intracity railroad system that millions
could use. As for the subsidy, so what? As I pointed out earlier, we
subsidize all sorts of industries. What are the oil company tax breaks
worth? $20 billion a year? More?

The difference is everyone benefits from the "oil subsidy" although
you still haven't told me what it is. That really sounds more like AOC
talking out of her ass.
OTOH the Amtrack subsidy only helps the few people who actually prefer
a 19th century transportation method in the 21st century. $2 Billion
for about 6 million trips.
Maybe we should bring back stage coaches too.

DoD budgets are just you trying to divert the conversation because you
are riding a loser here.