On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 00:45:06 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...


She also was not threatening the officer, she was breaking a window.
Can they shoot people who break windows to get into stores? OK by me
but I bet you don't agree.
In fact one of the BLM thugs shot a retired cop ( David Dorn) trying
to protect a store. I don't think they ever caught the shooter.

I've seen the videos of this woman - from multiple angles - getting shot.
She had climbed into the broken out window of the door - assisted by
another rioter - and was entering the building. The shooter was concealed
on the left. He popped out and fired. She fell back into the entrance
way. The shooter was a cold-hearted SOB. He shot to kill.
It was a tragic event. She was loved by and loved her family and friends.
Like many here, she was a functioning nut job.
All of her goodness and potential died on the altar of Trump.
She died for the sad sack of **** known as Donald J. Trump.
Chalk it up to Darwin.


She got shot for trying to climb through a door window. Was she threatening
anyone's life? No. In fact she'd not even gotten through the window. The media
makes it sound as though she was ready to shoot a Senator.
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On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 00:45:06 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...


She also was not threatening the officer, she was breaking a window.
Can they shoot people who break windows to get into stores? OK by me
but I bet you don't agree.
In fact one of the BLM thugs shot a retired cop ( David Dorn) trying
to protect a store. I don't think they ever caught the shooter.

I've seen the videos of this woman - from multiple angles - getting shot.
She had climbed into the broken out window of the door - assisted by
another rioter - and was entering the building. The shooter was concealed
on the left. He popped out and fired. She fell back into the entrance
way. The shooter was a cold-hearted SOB. He shot to kill.
It was a tragic event. She was loved by and loved her family and friends.
Like many here, she was a functioning nut job.
All of her goodness and potential died on the altar of Trump.
She died for the sad sack of **** known as Donald J. Trump.
Chalk it up to Darwin.

Oh, here's the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWMpTHLJXbw
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/7/21 3:16 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 13:22:10 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


A woman shot and killed by police during the storming of the US Capitol
by a pro-Donald Trump mob has been named as a 14-year veteran of the US
air force and of four foreign military tours, including to Iraq and
Afghanistan.

Ashli Babbitt, 35, had travelled to Washington DC from San Diego, her
husband told the local news station KUSI, adding that she was a
passionate Trump supporter.

Three other people died from “medical emergencies� during Wednesday’s
siege of the Capitol, according to the Washington DC police chief,
Robert Contee.

Contee has confirmed to reporters a woman was shot by Capitol police – a
federal law enforcement agency responsible for protecting the US
Congress – but has not released further details.

Less than a day before she joined the Trump loyalist protest, Babbitt,
an avowed and public Trump supporter as well as a subscriber to a number
of alt-right conspiracy theories, had vowed the insurrectionist movement
could never be halted. “Nothing will stop us … they can try and try and
try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24
hours … dark to light!� she wrote on Twitter.

***Babbitt, 35, was reportedly shot as she and other rioters tried to
break through a barricaded door in the building where Capitol police
officers were armed on the other side.***

On video footage circulating on social media, a single gunshot is heard
during an attempt to storm the barricaded door. Other footage shows
police attempting to perform emergency first aid on a woman lying on the
floor bleeding.

Babbitt was taken to hospital with a gunshot wound but later pronounced
dead.

On Twitter, Babbitt described herself as a veteran and a *libertarian.*
Her social media account is filled with declarations of support for
Trump and condemnation of November’s presidential election, which Trump
lost.

She also retailed many of the conspiracy theories shared by alt-right
groups, including one about a vast network of high-profile and powerful
paedophiles. Babbitt regularly retweeted controversial lawyer and
conspiracy theorist Lin Wood, a high-profile Trump supporter who has
litigated several of the president’s failed lawsuits contesting the
election result.


https://tinyurl.com/y527xldk


She was a *libertarian* and Trump supporter. What a combination.

The only thing missing is that "imminent threat to the officer's
life".

If we can't take this seriously **** Michael Brown, Freddie Gray,
George Floyd and Trayvonn Martin. They needed killing too.


Oh, were they also Rabid Trumpster Libertarians trying to break into a
federal building of consequence?


Where was the imminent threat to life?

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:16:01 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 13:22:10 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


A woman shot and killed by police during the storming of the US Capitol
by a pro-Donald Trump mob has been named as a 14-year veteran of the US
air force and of four foreign military tours, including to Iraq and
Afghanistan.

Ashli Babbitt, 35, had travelled to Washington DC from San Diego, her
husband told the local news station KUSI, adding that she was a
passionate Trump supporter.

Three other people died from “medical emergencies” during Wednesday’s
siege of the Capitol, according to the Washington DC police chief,
Robert Contee.

Contee has confirmed to reporters a woman was shot by Capitol police – a
federal law enforcement agency responsible for protecting the US
Congress – but has not released further details.

Less than a day before she joined the Trump loyalist protest, Babbitt,
an avowed and public Trump supporter as well as a subscriber to a number
of alt-right conspiracy theories, had vowed the insurrectionist movement
could never be halted. “Nothing will stop us … they can try and try and
try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24
hours … dark to light!” she wrote on Twitter.

***Babbitt, 35, was reportedly shot as she and other rioters tried to
break through a barricaded door in the building where Capitol police
officers were armed on the other side.***

On video footage circulating on social media, a single gunshot is heard
during an attempt to storm the barricaded door. Other footage shows
police attempting to perform emergency first aid on a woman lying on the
floor bleeding.

Babbitt was taken to hospital with a gunshot wound but later pronounced
dead.

On Twitter, Babbitt described herself as a veteran and a *libertarian.*
Her social media account is filled with declarations of support for
Trump and condemnation of NovemberÂ’s presidential election, which Trump
lost.

She also retailed many of the conspiracy theories shared by alt-right
groups, including one about a vast network of high-profile and powerful
paedophiles. Babbitt regularly retweeted controversial lawyer and
conspiracy theorist Lin Wood, a high-profile Trump supporter who has
litigated several of the presidentÂ’s failed lawsuits contesting the
election result.


https://tinyurl.com/y527xldk


She was a *libertarian* and Trump supporter. What a combination.

The only thing missing is that "imminent threat to the officer's
life".


===

The guard was hired to protect government property and members of
congress. He was issued a firearm to enforce that. No threat to his
own life was required to justify deadly force. It's a similar
situation to an armed guard anywhere.


That is one of stupidest statements you have made. Lloyd was shot and
everyone on the liberal side claimed he was murder3d unfairly. He was
actually attacking the cop. Same with most of the other shootings.

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/7/21 4:25 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:42:21 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:16:01 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 13:22:10 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


A woman shot and killed by police during the storming of the US Capitol
by a pro-Donald Trump mob has been named as a 14-year veteran of the US
air force and of four foreign military tours, including to Iraq and
Afghanistan.

Ashli Babbitt, 35, had travelled to Washington DC from San Diego, her
husband told the local news station KUSI, adding that she was a
passionate Trump supporter.

Three other people died from “medical emergencies� during Wednesday’s
siege of the Capitol, according to the Washington DC police chief,
Robert Contee.

Contee has confirmed to reporters a woman was shot by Capitol police – a
federal law enforcement agency responsible for protecting the US
Congress – but has not released further details.

Less than a day before she joined the Trump loyalist protest, Babbitt,
an avowed and public Trump supporter as well as a subscriber to a number
of alt-right conspiracy theories, had vowed the insurrectionist movement
could never be halted. “Nothing will stop us … they can try and try and
try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24
hours … dark to light!� she wrote on Twitter.

***Babbitt, 35, was reportedly shot as she and other rioters tried to
break through a barricaded door in the building where Capitol police
officers were armed on the other side.***

On video footage circulating on social media, a single gunshot is heard
during an attempt to storm the barricaded door. Other footage shows
police attempting to perform emergency first aid on a woman lying on the
floor bleeding.

Babbitt was taken to hospital with a gunshot wound but later pronounced
dead.

On Twitter, Babbitt described herself as a veteran and a *libertarian.*
Her social media account is filled with declarations of support for
Trump and condemnation of November’s presidential election, which Trump
lost.

She also retailed many of the conspiracy theories shared by alt-right
groups, including one about a vast network of high-profile and powerful
paedophiles. Babbitt regularly retweeted controversial lawyer and
conspiracy theorist Lin Wood, a high-profile Trump supporter who has
litigated several of the president’s failed lawsuits contesting the
election result.


https://tinyurl.com/y527xldk


She was a *libertarian* and Trump supporter. What a combination.

The only thing missing is that "imminent threat to the officer's
life".


===

The guard was hired to protect government property and members of
congress. He was issued a firearm to enforce that. No threat to his
own life was required to justify deadly force. It's a similar
situation to an armed guard anywhere.

You better read up on the justified use of force again before you walk
out the door with your gun.
There are cops going to jail for shooting people trying to protect
property. The cops have the same obligation to demonstrate an imminent
fear for their life as you do.
In fact, in DC, the cops have about the same "stand your ground"
protection as we do as civilians in Florida. You don't have to retreat
but you can't shoot until you are ready to demonstrate that imminent
fear. Civilians there have the obligation of retreat.


News reports stated the woman was part of a crowd using stanchions and
flag pole holders to bust through glass doors and windows to gain
entrance to other parts of the Capitol. She got shot in the act of doing
that. She wasn't on a street corner selling loose cigarettes.


She was breaking and entering. Can you in Maryland shoot someone who is
breaking in to your house, even though you can get out of the way?

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:58:16 -0500, John wrote:

On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:42:21 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:16:01 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 13:22:10 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


A woman shot and killed by police during the storming of the US Capitol
by a pro-Donald Trump mob has been named as a 14-year veteran of the US
air force and of four foreign military tours, including to Iraq and
Afghanistan.

Ashli Babbitt, 35, had travelled to Washington DC from San Diego, her
husband told the local news station KUSI, adding that she was a
passionate Trump supporter.

Three other people died from “medical emergencies” during Wednesday’s
siege of the Capitol, according to the Washington DC police chief,
Robert Contee.

Contee has confirmed to reporters a woman was shot by Capitol police – a
federal law enforcement agency responsible for protecting the US
Congress – but has not released further details.

Less than a day before she joined the Trump loyalist protest, Babbitt,
an avowed and public Trump supporter as well as a subscriber to a number
of alt-right conspiracy theories, had vowed the insurrectionist movement
could never be halted. “Nothing will stop us … they can try and try and
try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24
hours … dark to light!” she wrote on Twitter.

***Babbitt, 35, was reportedly shot as she and other rioters tried to
break through a barricaded door in the building where Capitol police
officers were armed on the other side.***

On video footage circulating on social media, a single gunshot is heard
during an attempt to storm the barricaded door. Other footage shows
police attempting to perform emergency first aid on a woman lying on the
floor bleeding.

Babbitt was taken to hospital with a gunshot wound but later pronounced
dead.

On Twitter, Babbitt described herself as a veteran and a *libertarian.*
Her social media account is filled with declarations of support for
Trump and condemnation of NovemberÂ’s presidential election, which Trump
lost.

She also retailed many of the conspiracy theories shared by alt-right
groups, including one about a vast network of high-profile and powerful
paedophiles. Babbitt regularly retweeted controversial lawyer and
conspiracy theorist Lin Wood, a high-profile Trump supporter who has
litigated several of the presidentÂ’s failed lawsuits contesting the
election result.


https://tinyurl.com/y527xldk


She was a *libertarian* and Trump supporter. What a combination.

The only thing missing is that "imminent threat to the officer's
life".


===

The guard was hired to protect government property and members of
congress. He was issued a firearm to enforce that. No threat to his
own life was required to justify deadly force. It's a similar
situation to an armed guard anywhere.

So those who attacked the Federal Courthouse in Portland should have been shot?

Bull****.

===

Why do you keep bringing up Portland? Are you making excuses for
Trump and his mob of insurrectionists?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/bring-the-insurrectionists-to-justice-11610065179


I want equal protection and prosecution under the law.

Bill Wrote in message:r
Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/7/21 3:16 PM, wrote: On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 13:22:10 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: A woman shot and killed by police during the storming of the US Capitol by a pro-Donald Trump mob has been named as a 14-year veteran of the US air force and of four foreign military tours, including to Iraq and Afghanistan. Ashli Babbitt, 35, had travelled to Washington DC from San Diego, her husband told the local news station KUSI, adding that she was a passionate Trump supporter. Three other people died from ?medical emergencies? during Wednesday?s siege of the Capitol, according to the Washington DC police chief, Robert Contee. Contee has confirmed to reporters a woman was shot by Capitol police ? a federal law enforcement agency responsible for protecting the US Congress ? but has not released further details. Less than a day before she joined the Trump loyalist protest, Babbitt, an avowed and public Trump supporter as well as a subscriber to a number of alt-right conspiracy theories, had vowed the insurrectionist movement could never be halted. ?Nothing will stop us ? they can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours ? dark to light!? she wrote on Twitter. ***Babbitt, 35, was reportedly shot as she and other rioters tried to break through a barricaded door in the building where Capitol police officers were armed on the other side.*** On video footage circulating on social media, a single gunshot is heard during an attempt to storm the barricaded door. Other footage shows police attempting to perform emergency first aid on a woman lying on the floor bleeding. Babbitt was taken to hospital with a gunshot wound but later pronounced dead. On Twitter, Babbitt described herself as a veteran and a *libertarian.* Her social media account is filled with declarations of support for Trump and condemnation of November?s presidential election, which Trump lost. She also retailed many of the conspiracy theories shared by alt-right groups, including one about a vast network of high-profile and powerful paedophiles. Babbitt regularly retweeted controversial lawyer and conspiracy theorist Lin Wood, a high-profile Trump supporter who has litigated several of the president?s failed lawsuits contesting the election result. https://tinyurl.com/y527xldk She was a *libertarian* and Trump supporter. What a combination. The only thing missing is that "imminent threat to the officer's life". If we can't take this seriously **** Michael Brown, Freddie Gray, George Floyd and Trayvonn Martin. They needed killing too. Oh, were they also Rabid Trumpster Libertarians trying to break into a federal building of consequence? Where was the imminent threat to life?

IMMINENT THREAT IS THE DEFENSE THAT GUY IS GONG TO HAVE TO MOUNT
IN ORDER TO AVOID PRISON FOR MURDERING THE WOMAN BEING HELPED
THROUGH THE BROKEN WINDOW. DID HE EVEN WARN HER WHEN HE CAME OUT
OF HIDING TO BRAVELY SHOOT HER?
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Bill Wrote in message:r
Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/7/21 4:25 PM, wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:42:21 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:16:01 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 13:22:10 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: A woman shot and killed by police during the storming of the US Capitol by a pro-Donald Trump mob has been named as a 14-year veteran of the US air force and of four foreign military tours, including to Iraq and Afghanistan. Ashli Babbitt, 35, had travelled to Washington DC from San Diego, her husband told the local news station KUSI, adding that she was a passionate Trump supporter. Three other people died from ?medical emergencies? during Wednesday?s siege of the Capitol, according to the Washington DC police chief, Robert Contee. Contee has confirmed to reporters a woman was shot by Capitol police ? a federal law enforcement agency responsible for protecting the US Congress ? but has not released further details. Less than a day before she joined the Trump loyalist protest, Babbitt, an avowed and public Trump supporter as well as a subscriber to a number of alt-right conspiracy theories, had vowed the insurrectionist movement could never be halted. ?Nothing will stop us ? they can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours ? dark to light!? she wrote on Twitter. ***Babbitt, 35, was reportedly shot as she and other rioters tried to break through a barricaded door in the building where Capitol police officers were armed on the other side.*** On video footage circulating on social media, a single gunshot is heard during an attempt to storm the barricaded door. Other footage shows police attempting to perform emergency first aid on a woman lying on the floor bleeding. Babbitt was taken to hospital with a gunshot wound but later pronounced dead. On Twitter, Babbitt described herself as a veteran and a *libertarian.* Her social media account is filled with declarations of support for Trump and condemnation of November?s presidential election, which Trump lost. She also retailed many of the conspiracy theories shared by alt-right groups, including one about a vast network of high-profile and powerful paedophiles. Babbitt regularly retweeted controversial lawyer and conspiracy theorist Lin Wood, a high-profile Trump supporter who has litigated several of the president?s failed lawsuits contesting the election result. https://tinyurl.com/y527xldk She was a *libertarian* and Trump supporter. What a combination. The only thing missing is that "imminent threat to the officer's life". === The guard was hired to protect government property and members of congress. He was issued a firearm to enforce that. No threat to his own life was required to justify deadly force. It's a similar situation to an armed guard anywhere. You better read up on the justified use of force again before you walk out the door with your gun. There are cops going to jail for shooting people trying to protect property. The cops have the same obligation to demonstrate an imminent fear for their life as you do. In fact, in DC, the cops have about the same "stand your ground" protection as we do as civilians in Florida. You don't have to retreat but you can't shoot until you are ready to demonstrate that imminent fear. Civilians there have the obligation of retreat. News reports stated the woman was part of a crowd using stanchions and flag pole holders to bust through glass doors and windows to gain entrance to other parts of the Capitol. She got shot in the act of doing that. She wasn't on a street corner selling loose cigarettes. She was breaking and entering. Can you in Maryland shoot someone who isbreaking in to your house, even though you can get out of the way?

SHE DIDN'T BREAK IN.

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