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Justan Ohlphart[_3_] April 21st 20 12:12 AM

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Mr. Luddite[_4_] April 21st 20 12:37 AM

stimulus payments
 
On 4/20/2020 7:07 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 16:47:20 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 16:33:36 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:49:42 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:13:40 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:09:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:57:25 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:58:56 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:31:18 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:27:07 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:09:55 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund
for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been
direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but
needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to
check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info.

Mine came through fine.

IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if
they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am
not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking
at my balance.

Us modernized folks can check our accounts online.
+

I guess if you believe, go for it.
I limit online exposure to my money.

Me too. It's between me and my bank.

You your bank and anyone else on the internet who can crack your
security or the bank's.

If I believe in what?

That you or they can't be hacked.

The convenience is well worth the odds.

What convenience? I have enough money in the bank that I don't need to
be looking at it every day.

I pay bills, get my checking, savings, and credit card statements all online
from the bank. Payments are made by transferring money online from one account
to another or to the payee - water, electric, gas, credit card, etc.

That's called convenience. Has nothing to do with how 'much' money you have.

I EFT things like bills and payments to me but that is not the same as
an open internet portal with my name on the transaction. If someone
hacks your phone and logs on as you, your chances of fighting it are
harder than if someone pretends to be the power company.
The only value I see to logging into my account is to transfer money
between accounts or check my balance. I don't care about either of
those enough to have one more password to protect. (or 5 if I had
access to all of my accounts)

Like I said, the convenience is well worth the odds.

I guess I just haven't missed it.
I don't really deal with my banks that much and I usually just go
there when I do. That ends up being a few times a year. If nothing
else, it is not worth having 4 or 5 more passwords to remember.




I do all that with one password.


Same password different banks? That is not a great idea.


Banks have evolved some very secure systems for online banking.
I don't remember hearing or reading about someone's account
being "hacked" due to the account being compromised.
ATM cards and credit cards yes ... but not the secure
online banking systems.

A couple of weeks ago I used my old Win 7 laptop to log onto
my account at the bank I use most often. I hadn't used it
to access to the account for quite a while.

It wouldn't let me in at first because it didn't recognize the
computer. They sent a code to my cell phone number on record
that I had to enter in order to gain access.


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[email protected] April 21st 20 03:19 AM

stimulus payments
 
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 19:37:04 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/20/2020 7:07 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 16:47:20 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 16:33:36 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:49:42 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:13:40 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:09:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:57:25 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:58:56 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:31:18 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:27:07 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:09:55 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund
for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been
direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but
needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to
check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info.

Mine came through fine.

IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if
they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am
not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking
at my balance.

Us modernized folks can check our accounts online.
+

I guess if you believe, go for it.
I limit online exposure to my money.

Me too. It's between me and my bank.

You your bank and anyone else on the internet who can crack your
security or the bank's.

If I believe in what?

That you or they can't be hacked.

The convenience is well worth the odds.

What convenience? I have enough money in the bank that I don't need to
be looking at it every day.

I pay bills, get my checking, savings, and credit card statements all online
from the bank. Payments are made by transferring money online from one account
to another or to the payee - water, electric, gas, credit card, etc.

That's called convenience. Has nothing to do with how 'much' money you have.

I EFT things like bills and payments to me but that is not the same as
an open internet portal with my name on the transaction. If someone
hacks your phone and logs on as you, your chances of fighting it are
harder than if someone pretends to be the power company.
The only value I see to logging into my account is to transfer money
between accounts or check my balance. I don't care about either of
those enough to have one more password to protect. (or 5 if I had
access to all of my accounts)

Like I said, the convenience is well worth the odds.

I guess I just haven't missed it.
I don't really deal with my banks that much and I usually just go
there when I do. That ends up being a few times a year. If nothing
else, it is not worth having 4 or 5 more passwords to remember.



I do all that with one password.


Same password different banks? That is not a great idea.


Banks have evolved some very secure systems for online banking.
I don't remember hearing or reading about someone's account
being "hacked" due to the account being compromised.
ATM cards and credit cards yes ... but not the secure
online banking systems.

A couple of weeks ago I used my old Win 7 laptop to log onto
my account at the bank I use most often. I hadn't used it
to access to the account for quite a while.

It wouldn't let me in at first because it didn't recognize the
computer. They sent a code to my cell phone number on record
that I had to enter in order to gain access.


I guess I could talk myself into it if I saw how it would be useful to
me. So far I haven't seen the need.

Its Me April 21st 20 04:44 AM

stimulus payments
 
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:06:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:35:34 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 2:07:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 09:59:10 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 12:59:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/19/2020 11:22 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:36:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:39:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/19/2020 7:09 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund
for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been
direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but
needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to
check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info.

Mine came through fine.

IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if
they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am
not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking
at my balance.

Us modernized folks can check our accounts online.
+



I guess if you believe, go for it.
I limit online exposure to my money.


How do you think your stimulus money is being sent to your account?
Or your SS deposits?

According to cyber experts, on-line banking, being encrypted, is more
secure than physically appearing at your bank and depositing or
withdrawing $$ that creates an unencrypted paper trail. It's also more
secure than using your ATM card.

If someone hacks the bank and gets your money you have recourse. If
they hack you, get your PIN/PW, it is not that certain how fast they
will make you whole, if ever. As far as they are concerned "You" took
the money (we saw you log in) and you have to prove otherwise.

===

Many, if not most, ATM machines are also taking your picture as you
transact. That's one of the ways they catch scammers.


I use online banking for just about everything. Paying bills,
checking accounts, deposits, receiving and sending wire transfers, etc.
Only written check I write is for the landscaping service in the
summer and snow plowing in the winter.

My wife is like Greg. SHe doesn't trust it. She has accounts in
another bank and does everything the old fashioned way except for
her SS check which is direct deposited. I've tried to convince
her that it's safe and very convenient. I've explained that every
time she uses her ATM card a credit card or even if she writes
a check at a store her account info is being
transmitted to the bank and back but she won't hear of it.

I remember back in the old days some people were leery of reading their credit card info to someone in a phone call when paying. They were concerned that someone could be listening and could steal the card numbers. But those same folks typically didn't have an issue dialing the card number on the phone's keypad.

What they didn't realize is how easy it was to just capture those DTMF digits with a cheap decoder and display or store them.

The issue was giving out your number to a stranger, no matter what the
transmission method was. Congress fixed that by making the CC company
eat fraudulent charges. Credit cards were so profitable that they went
along.


Maybe for you, but not the people I heard complain about it. They didn't like sending the spoken words over telephone lines.

Hell, you gave your number out to a stranger everytime they took an imprint at the store, then if they didn't dispose of the carbon sheets properly your card info was in the trash and at the dump.

So folks just don't like "new" things.


In my case it is simply that I haven't seen the need. The only thing I
would be doing is checking my balance.


OK. I guess I misunderstood this:

"I EFT things like bills and payments to me but that is not the same as
an open internet portal with my name on the transaction. If someone
hacks your phone and logs on as you, your chances of fighting it are
harder than if someone pretends to be the power company."

It sounded to me like you didn't trust the security of online banking. My bad.

John[_6_] April 21st 20 12:28 PM

stimulus payments
 
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 19:07:03 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 16:47:20 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 16:33:36 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:49:42 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:13:40 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:09:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:57:25 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:58:56 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:31:18 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:27:07 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:09:55 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund
for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been
direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but
needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to
check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info.

Mine came through fine.

IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if
they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am
not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking
at my balance.

Us modernized folks can check our accounts online.
+

I guess if you believe, go for it.
I limit online exposure to my money.

Me too. It's between me and my bank.

You your bank and anyone else on the internet who can crack your
security or the bank's.

If I believe in what?

That you or they can't be hacked.

The convenience is well worth the odds.

What convenience? I have enough money in the bank that I don't need to
be looking at it every day.

I pay bills, get my checking, savings, and credit card statements all online
from the bank. Payments are made by transferring money online from one account
to another or to the payee - water, electric, gas, credit card, etc.

That's called convenience. Has nothing to do with how 'much' money you have.

I EFT things like bills and payments to me but that is not the same as
an open internet portal with my name on the transaction. If someone
hacks your phone and logs on as you, your chances of fighting it are
harder than if someone pretends to be the power company.
The only value I see to logging into my account is to transfer money
between accounts or check my balance. I don't care about either of
those enough to have one more password to protect. (or 5 if I had
access to all of my accounts)

Like I said, the convenience is well worth the odds.

I guess I just haven't missed it.
I don't really deal with my banks that much and I usually just go
there when I do. That ends up being a few times a year. If nothing
else, it is not worth having 4 or 5 more passwords to remember.


I do all that with one password.


Same password different banks? That is not a great idea.


Only one bank. No need for others.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

John[_6_] April 21st 20 12:29 PM

stimulus payments
 
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 20:44:35 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:06:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:35:34 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 2:07:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 09:59:10 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 12:59:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/19/2020 11:22 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:36:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:39:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/19/2020 7:09 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund
for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been
direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but
needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to
check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info.

Mine came through fine.

IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if
they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am
not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking
at my balance.

Us modernized folks can check our accounts online.
+



I guess if you believe, go for it.
I limit online exposure to my money.


How do you think your stimulus money is being sent to your account?
Or your SS deposits?

According to cyber experts, on-line banking, being encrypted, is more
secure than physically appearing at your bank and depositing or
withdrawing $$ that creates an unencrypted paper trail. It's also more
secure than using your ATM card.

If someone hacks the bank and gets your money you have recourse. If
they hack you, get your PIN/PW, it is not that certain how fast they
will make you whole, if ever. As far as they are concerned "You" took
the money (we saw you log in) and you have to prove otherwise.

===

Many, if not most, ATM machines are also taking your picture as you
transact. That's one of the ways they catch scammers.


I use online banking for just about everything. Paying bills,
checking accounts, deposits, receiving and sending wire transfers, etc.
Only written check I write is for the landscaping service in the
summer and snow plowing in the winter.

My wife is like Greg. SHe doesn't trust it. She has accounts in
another bank and does everything the old fashioned way except for
her SS check which is direct deposited. I've tried to convince
her that it's safe and very convenient. I've explained that every
time she uses her ATM card a credit card or even if she writes
a check at a store her account info is being
transmitted to the bank and back but she won't hear of it.

I remember back in the old days some people were leery of reading their credit card info to someone in a phone call when paying. They were concerned that someone could be listening and could steal the card numbers. But those same folks typically didn't have an issue dialing the card number on the phone's keypad.

What they didn't realize is how easy it was to just capture those DTMF digits with a cheap decoder and display or store them.

The issue was giving out your number to a stranger, no matter what the
transmission method was. Congress fixed that by making the CC company
eat fraudulent charges. Credit cards were so profitable that they went
along.

Maybe for you, but not the people I heard complain about it. They didn't like sending the spoken words over telephone lines.

Hell, you gave your number out to a stranger everytime they took an imprint at the store, then if they didn't dispose of the carbon sheets properly your card info was in the trash and at the dump.

So folks just don't like "new" things.


In my case it is simply that I haven't seen the need. The only thing I
would be doing is checking my balance.


OK. I guess I misunderstood this:

"I EFT things like bills and payments to me but that is not the same as
an open internet portal with my name on the transaction. If someone
hacks your phone and logs on as you, your chances of fighting it are
harder than if someone pretends to be the power company."

It sounded to me like you didn't trust the security of online banking. My bad.


LOL!
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

[email protected] April 21st 20 06:39 PM

stimulus payments
 
On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 07:28:38 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 19:07:03 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 16:47:20 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 16:33:36 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:49:42 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:13:40 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:09:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:57:25 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:58:56 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:31:18 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:27:07 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:09:55 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund
for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been
direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but
needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to
check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info.

Mine came through fine.

IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if
they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am
not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking
at my balance.

Us modernized folks can check our accounts online.
+

I guess if you believe, go for it.
I limit online exposure to my money.

Me too. It's between me and my bank.

You your bank and anyone else on the internet who can crack your
security or the bank's.

If I believe in what?

That you or they can't be hacked.

The convenience is well worth the odds.

What convenience? I have enough money in the bank that I don't need to
be looking at it every day.

I pay bills, get my checking, savings, and credit card statements all online
from the bank. Payments are made by transferring money online from one account
to another or to the payee - water, electric, gas, credit card, etc.

That's called convenience. Has nothing to do with how 'much' money you have.

I EFT things like bills and payments to me but that is not the same as
an open internet portal with my name on the transaction. If someone
hacks your phone and logs on as you, your chances of fighting it are
harder than if someone pretends to be the power company.
The only value I see to logging into my account is to transfer money
between accounts or check my balance. I don't care about either of
those enough to have one more password to protect. (or 5 if I had
access to all of my accounts)

Like I said, the convenience is well worth the odds.

I guess I just haven't missed it.
I don't really deal with my banks that much and I usually just go
there when I do. That ends up being a few times a year. If nothing
else, it is not worth having 4 or 5 more passwords to remember.

I do all that with one password.


Same password different banks? That is not a great idea.


Only one bank. No need for others.


I never thought only having one bank was a good idea. It makes it too
hard to fire them if they **** you off. With multiple banks you also
have a better chance of finding an ATM nearby that doesn't charge you
$4 to get a $20.

John[_6_] April 21st 20 08:29 PM

stimulus payments
 
On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 13:39:14 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 07:28:38 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 19:07:03 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 16:47:20 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 16:33:36 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:49:42 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:13:40 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:09:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:57:25 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:58:56 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:31:18 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:27:07 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:09:55 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund
for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been
direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but
needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to
check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info.

Mine came through fine.

IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if
they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am
not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking
at my balance.

Us modernized folks can check our accounts online.
+

I guess if you believe, go for it.
I limit online exposure to my money.

Me too. It's between me and my bank.

You your bank and anyone else on the internet who can crack your
security or the bank's.

If I believe in what?

That you or they can't be hacked.

The convenience is well worth the odds.

What convenience? I have enough money in the bank that I don't need to
be looking at it every day.

I pay bills, get my checking, savings, and credit card statements all online
from the bank. Payments are made by transferring money online from one account
to another or to the payee - water, electric, gas, credit card, etc.

That's called convenience. Has nothing to do with how 'much' money you have.

I EFT things like bills and payments to me but that is not the same as
an open internet portal with my name on the transaction. If someone
hacks your phone and logs on as you, your chances of fighting it are
harder than if someone pretends to be the power company.
The only value I see to logging into my account is to transfer money
between accounts or check my balance. I don't care about either of
those enough to have one more password to protect. (or 5 if I had
access to all of my accounts)

Like I said, the convenience is well worth the odds.

I guess I just haven't missed it.
I don't really deal with my banks that much and I usually just go
there when I do. That ends up being a few times a year. If nothing
else, it is not worth having 4 or 5 more passwords to remember.

I do all that with one password.

Same password different banks? That is not a great idea.


Only one bank. No need for others.


I never thought only having one bank was a good idea. It makes it too
hard to fire them if they **** you off. With multiple banks you also
have a better chance of finding an ATM nearby that doesn't charge you
$4 to get a $20.


I've used an ATM only once in my life. That was in Holland when I needed some
Euros.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

John[_6_] April 21st 20 08:31 PM

stimulus payments
 
On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 13:39:14 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 07:28:38 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 19:07:03 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 16:47:20 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 16:33:36 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:49:42 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:13:40 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:09:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:57:25 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:58:56 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:31:18 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:27:07 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:09:55 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund
for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been
direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but
needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to
check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info.

Mine came through fine.

IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if
they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am
not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking
at my balance.

Us modernized folks can check our accounts online.
+

I guess if you believe, go for it.
I limit online exposure to my money.

Me too. It's between me and my bank.

You your bank and anyone else on the internet who can crack your
security or the bank's.

If I believe in what?

That you or they can't be hacked.

The convenience is well worth the odds.

What convenience? I have enough money in the bank that I don't need to
be looking at it every day.

I pay bills, get my checking, savings, and credit card statements all online
from the bank. Payments are made by transferring money online from one account
to another or to the payee - water, electric, gas, credit card, etc.

That's called convenience. Has nothing to do with how 'much' money you have.

I EFT things like bills and payments to me but that is not the same as
an open internet portal with my name on the transaction. If someone
hacks your phone and logs on as you, your chances of fighting it are
harder than if someone pretends to be the power company.
The only value I see to logging into my account is to transfer money
between accounts or check my balance. I don't care about either of
those enough to have one more password to protect. (or 5 if I had
access to all of my accounts)

Like I said, the convenience is well worth the odds.

I guess I just haven't missed it.
I don't really deal with my banks that much and I usually just go
there when I do. That ends up being a few times a year. If nothing
else, it is not worth having 4 or 5 more passwords to remember.

I do all that with one password.

Same password different banks? That is not a great idea.


Only one bank. No need for others.


I never thought only having one bank was a good idea. It makes it too
hard to fire them if they **** you off. With multiple banks you also
have a better chance of finding an ATM nearby that doesn't charge you
$4 to get a $20.


I've been with my current bank for 55 years. Never had a problem with them. I
think having one bank is a great idea.
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stimulus payments
 
On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 15:29:20 -0400, John wrote:

On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 13:39:14 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 07:28:38 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 19:07:03 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 16:47:20 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 16:33:36 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:49:42 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:13:40 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:09:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:57:25 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:58:56 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:31:18 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:27:07 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:09:55 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund
for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been
direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but
needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to
check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info.

Mine came through fine.

IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if
they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am
not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking
at my balance.

Us modernized folks can check our accounts online.
+

I guess if you believe, go for it.
I limit online exposure to my money.

Me too. It's between me and my bank.

You your bank and anyone else on the internet who can crack your
security or the bank's.

If I believe in what?

That you or they can't be hacked.

The convenience is well worth the odds.

What convenience? I have enough money in the bank that I don't need to
be looking at it every day.

I pay bills, get my checking, savings, and credit card statements all online
from the bank. Payments are made by transferring money online from one account
to another or to the payee - water, electric, gas, credit card, etc.

That's called convenience. Has nothing to do with how 'much' money you have.

I EFT things like bills and payments to me but that is not the same as
an open internet portal with my name on the transaction. If someone
hacks your phone and logs on as you, your chances of fighting it are
harder than if someone pretends to be the power company.
The only value I see to logging into my account is to transfer money
between accounts or check my balance. I don't care about either of
those enough to have one more password to protect. (or 5 if I had
access to all of my accounts)

Like I said, the convenience is well worth the odds.

I guess I just haven't missed it.
I don't really deal with my banks that much and I usually just go
there when I do. That ends up being a few times a year. If nothing
else, it is not worth having 4 or 5 more passwords to remember.

I do all that with one password.

Same password different banks? That is not a great idea.

Only one bank. No need for others.


I never thought only having one bank was a good idea. It makes it too
hard to fire them if they **** you off. With multiple banks you also
have a better chance of finding an ATM nearby that doesn't charge you
$4 to get a $20.


I've used an ATM only once in my life. That was in Holland when I needed some
Euros.
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How do you get cash here in the states? My former employer was an ATM
pioneer so I've been using them for 40+ years. Never had a problem.

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