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On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 17:20:39 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: John wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:57:25 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:58:56 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:31:18 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:27:07 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:09:55 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info. Mine came through fine. IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking at my balance. Us modernized folks can check our accounts online. + I guess if you believe, go for it. I limit online exposure to my money. Me too. It's between me and my bank. You your bank and anyone else on the internet who can crack your security or the bank's. If I believe in what? That you or they can't be hacked. The convenience is well worth the odds. What convenience? I have enough money in the bank that I don't need to be looking at it every day. I pay bills, get my checking, savings, and credit card statements all online from the bank. Payments are made by transferring money online from one account to another or to the payee - water, electric, gas, credit card, etc. That's called convenience. Has nothing to do with how 'much' money you have. -- Freedom Isn't Free! We write so few checks that the wife realized we were pretty much out of blank checks. Been years since we ordered. She writes a few, mostly kids and grandkids holidays checks. I write maybe one or two a year. Same here I am still writing checks on banks that were bought out 30 years ago. They still cash. As the blank checks run out, I order new ones from the current bank. |
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On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:32:39 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 4/20/2020 1:09 PM, John wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:57:25 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:58:56 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:31:18 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:27:07 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:09:55 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info. Mine came through fine. IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking at my balance. Us modernized folks can check our accounts online. + I guess if you believe, go for it. I limit online exposure to my money. Me too. It's between me and my bank. You your bank and anyone else on the internet who can crack your security or the bank's. If I believe in what? That you or they can't be hacked. The convenience is well worth the odds. What convenience? I have enough money in the bank that I don't need to be looking at it every day. I pay bills, get my checking, savings, and credit card statements all online from the bank. Payments are made by transferring money online from one account to another or to the payee - water, electric, gas, credit card, etc. That's called convenience. Has nothing to do with how 'much' money you have. Greg doesn't have to deal with those issues. He gets water from his well with a bucket, rope and hand crank. He generates his own electricity on his generator modified to run on methane that he captures from swamps down near the water. No need for gas. His car also runs on methane. Learned how to do all this on one of his Win 98 computers. :-) (just kidding Greg) I really only have 2 recurring bills that aren't on a credit card, power and phone. The CC auto pays and the 2 utilities are on EFT (using the R/T number for a bank that doesn't exist anymore). Everything still processes without any intervention from me. Like I said before. it would be hard to tell I died unless the check out girls at the Publix missed me. If my wife kept using my CC nobody else would ever know. The neighbors would have trouble getting a ramp key tho. |
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And what are you, Harry?
Keyser Soze - show quoted text - Greg is a loonytarian. |
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On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:13:40 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:09:30 -0400, John wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:57:25 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:58:56 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:31:18 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:27:07 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:09:55 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info. Mine came through fine. IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking at my balance. Us modernized folks can check our accounts online. + I guess if you believe, go for it. I limit online exposure to my money. Me too. It's between me and my bank. You your bank and anyone else on the internet who can crack your security or the bank's. If I believe in what? That you or they can't be hacked. The convenience is well worth the odds. What convenience? I have enough money in the bank that I don't need to be looking at it every day. I pay bills, get my checking, savings, and credit card statements all online from the bank. Payments are made by transferring money online from one account to another or to the payee - water, electric, gas, credit card, etc. That's called convenience. Has nothing to do with how 'much' money you have. I EFT things like bills and payments to me but that is not the same as an open internet portal with my name on the transaction. If someone hacks your phone and logs on as you, your chances of fighting it are harder than if someone pretends to be the power company. The only value I see to logging into my account is to transfer money between accounts or check my balance. I don't care about either of those enough to have one more password to protect. (or 5 if I had access to all of my accounts) Like I said, the convenience is well worth the odds. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:49:42 -0400, John wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:13:40 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:09:30 -0400, John wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:57:25 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:58:56 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:31:18 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:27:07 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:09:55 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info. Mine came through fine. IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking at my balance. Us modernized folks can check our accounts online. + I guess if you believe, go for it. I limit online exposure to my money. Me too. It's between me and my bank. You your bank and anyone else on the internet who can crack your security or the bank's. If I believe in what? That you or they can't be hacked. The convenience is well worth the odds. What convenience? I have enough money in the bank that I don't need to be looking at it every day. I pay bills, get my checking, savings, and credit card statements all online from the bank. Payments are made by transferring money online from one account to another or to the payee - water, electric, gas, credit card, etc. That's called convenience. Has nothing to do with how 'much' money you have. I EFT things like bills and payments to me but that is not the same as an open internet portal with my name on the transaction. If someone hacks your phone and logs on as you, your chances of fighting it are harder than if someone pretends to be the power company. The only value I see to logging into my account is to transfer money between accounts or check my balance. I don't care about either of those enough to have one more password to protect. (or 5 if I had access to all of my accounts) Like I said, the convenience is well worth the odds. I guess I just haven't missed it. I don't really deal with my banks that much and I usually just go there when I do. That ends up being a few times a year. If nothing else, it is not worth having 4 or 5 more passwords to remember. |
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On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 2:07:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 09:59:10 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 12:59:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 4/19/2020 11:22 PM, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:36:05 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:39:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 4/19/2020 7:09 PM, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info. Mine came through fine. IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking at my balance. Us modernized folks can check our accounts online. + I guess if you believe, go for it. I limit online exposure to my money. How do you think your stimulus money is being sent to your account? Or your SS deposits? According to cyber experts, on-line banking, being encrypted, is more secure than physically appearing at your bank and depositing or withdrawing $$ that creates an unencrypted paper trail. It's also more secure than using your ATM card. If someone hacks the bank and gets your money you have recourse. If they hack you, get your PIN/PW, it is not that certain how fast they will make you whole, if ever. As far as they are concerned "You" took the money (we saw you log in) and you have to prove otherwise. === Many, if not most, ATM machines are also taking your picture as you transact. That's one of the ways they catch scammers. I use online banking for just about everything. Paying bills, checking accounts, deposits, receiving and sending wire transfers, etc.. Only written check I write is for the landscaping service in the summer and snow plowing in the winter. My wife is like Greg. SHe doesn't trust it. She has accounts in another bank and does everything the old fashioned way except for her SS check which is direct deposited. I've tried to convince her that it's safe and very convenient. I've explained that every time she uses her ATM card a credit card or even if she writes a check at a store her account info is being transmitted to the bank and back but she won't hear of it. I remember back in the old days some people were leery of reading their credit card info to someone in a phone call when paying. They were concerned that someone could be listening and could steal the card numbers. But those same folks typically didn't have an issue dialing the card number on the phone's keypad. What they didn't realize is how easy it was to just capture those DTMF digits with a cheap decoder and display or store them. The issue was giving out your number to a stranger, no matter what the transmission method was. Congress fixed that by making the CC company eat fraudulent charges. Credit cards were so profitable that they went along. Maybe for you, but not the people I heard complain about it. They didn't like sending the spoken words over telephone lines. Hell, you gave your number out to a stranger everytime they took an imprint at the store, then if they didn't dispose of the carbon sheets properly your card info was in the trash and at the dump. So folks just don't like "new" things. |
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On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 16:33:36 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:49:42 -0400, John wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:13:40 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:09:30 -0400, John wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:57:25 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:58:56 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:31:18 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:27:07 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:09:55 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info. Mine came through fine. IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking at my balance. Us modernized folks can check our accounts online. + I guess if you believe, go for it. I limit online exposure to my money. Me too. It's between me and my bank. You your bank and anyone else on the internet who can crack your security or the bank's. If I believe in what? That you or they can't be hacked. The convenience is well worth the odds. What convenience? I have enough money in the bank that I don't need to be looking at it every day. I pay bills, get my checking, savings, and credit card statements all online from the bank. Payments are made by transferring money online from one account to another or to the payee - water, electric, gas, credit card, etc. That's called convenience. Has nothing to do with how 'much' money you have. I EFT things like bills and payments to me but that is not the same as an open internet portal with my name on the transaction. If someone hacks your phone and logs on as you, your chances of fighting it are harder than if someone pretends to be the power company. The only value I see to logging into my account is to transfer money between accounts or check my balance. I don't care about either of those enough to have one more password to protect. (or 5 if I had access to all of my accounts) Like I said, the convenience is well worth the odds. I guess I just haven't missed it. I don't really deal with my banks that much and I usually just go there when I do. That ends up being a few times a year. If nothing else, it is not worth having 4 or 5 more passwords to remember. I do all that with one password. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:35:34 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote: On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 2:07:51 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 09:59:10 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 12:59:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 4/19/2020 11:22 PM, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:36:05 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:39:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 4/19/2020 7:09 PM, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info. Mine came through fine. IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking at my balance. Us modernized folks can check our accounts online. + I guess if you believe, go for it. I limit online exposure to my money. How do you think your stimulus money is being sent to your account? Or your SS deposits? According to cyber experts, on-line banking, being encrypted, is more secure than physically appearing at your bank and depositing or withdrawing $$ that creates an unencrypted paper trail. It's also more secure than using your ATM card. If someone hacks the bank and gets your money you have recourse. If they hack you, get your PIN/PW, it is not that certain how fast they will make you whole, if ever. As far as they are concerned "You" took the money (we saw you log in) and you have to prove otherwise. === Many, if not most, ATM machines are also taking your picture as you transact. That's one of the ways they catch scammers. I use online banking for just about everything. Paying bills, checking accounts, deposits, receiving and sending wire transfers, etc. Only written check I write is for the landscaping service in the summer and snow plowing in the winter. My wife is like Greg. SHe doesn't trust it. She has accounts in another bank and does everything the old fashioned way except for her SS check which is direct deposited. I've tried to convince her that it's safe and very convenient. I've explained that every time she uses her ATM card a credit card or even if she writes a check at a store her account info is being transmitted to the bank and back but she won't hear of it. I remember back in the old days some people were leery of reading their credit card info to someone in a phone call when paying. They were concerned that someone could be listening and could steal the card numbers. But those same folks typically didn't have an issue dialing the card number on the phone's keypad. What they didn't realize is how easy it was to just capture those DTMF digits with a cheap decoder and display or store them. The issue was giving out your number to a stranger, no matter what the transmission method was. Congress fixed that by making the CC company eat fraudulent charges. Credit cards were so profitable that they went along. Maybe for you, but not the people I heard complain about it. They didn't like sending the spoken words over telephone lines. Hell, you gave your number out to a stranger everytime they took an imprint at the store, then if they didn't dispose of the carbon sheets properly your card info was in the trash and at the dump. So folks just don't like "new" things. In my case it is simply that I haven't seen the need. The only thing I would be doing is checking my balance. |
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On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 16:47:20 -0400, John wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 16:33:36 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:49:42 -0400, John wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:13:40 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:09:30 -0400, John wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:57:25 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:58:56 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:31:18 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:27:07 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:09:55 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info. Mine came through fine. IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking at my balance. Us modernized folks can check our accounts online. + I guess if you believe, go for it. I limit online exposure to my money. Me too. It's between me and my bank. You your bank and anyone else on the internet who can crack your security or the bank's. If I believe in what? That you or they can't be hacked. The convenience is well worth the odds. What convenience? I have enough money in the bank that I don't need to be looking at it every day. I pay bills, get my checking, savings, and credit card statements all online from the bank. Payments are made by transferring money online from one account to another or to the payee - water, electric, gas, credit card, etc. That's called convenience. Has nothing to do with how 'much' money you have. I EFT things like bills and payments to me but that is not the same as an open internet portal with my name on the transaction. If someone hacks your phone and logs on as you, your chances of fighting it are harder than if someone pretends to be the power company. The only value I see to logging into my account is to transfer money between accounts or check my balance. I don't care about either of those enough to have one more password to protect. (or 5 if I had access to all of my accounts) Like I said, the convenience is well worth the odds. I guess I just haven't missed it. I don't really deal with my banks that much and I usually just go there when I do. That ends up being a few times a year. If nothing else, it is not worth having 4 or 5 more passwords to remember. I do all that with one password. Same password different banks? That is not a great idea. |
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