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Mr. Luddite[_4_] April 20th 20 05:59 AM

stimulus payments
 
On 4/19/2020 11:22 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:36:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:39:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/19/2020 7:09 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund
for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been
direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but
needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to
check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info.

Mine came through fine.

IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if
they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am
not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking
at my balance.

Us modernized folks can check our accounts online.
+



I guess if you believe, go for it.
I limit online exposure to my money.


How do you think your stimulus money is being sent to your account?
Or your SS deposits?

According to cyber experts, on-line banking, being encrypted, is more
secure than physically appearing at your bank and depositing or
withdrawing $$ that creates an unencrypted paper trail. It's also more
secure than using your ATM card.


If someone hacks the bank and gets your money you have recourse. If
they hack you, get your PIN/PW, it is not that certain how fast they
will make you whole, if ever. As far as they are concerned "You" took
the money (we saw you log in) and you have to prove otherwise.


===

Many, if not most, ATM machines are also taking your picture as you
transact. That's one of the ways they catch scammers.


I use online banking for just about everything. Paying bills,
checking accounts, deposits, receiving and sending wire transfers, etc.
Only written check I write is for the landscaping service in the
summer and snow plowing in the winter.

My wife is like Greg. SHe doesn't trust it. She has accounts in
another bank and does everything the old fashioned way except for
her SS check which is direct deposited. I've tried to convince
her that it's safe and very convenient. I've explained that every
time she uses her ATM card a credit card or even if she writes
a check at a store her account info is being
transmitted to the bank and back but she won't hear of it.



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John[_6_] April 20th 20 11:58 AM

stimulus payments
 
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:31:18 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:27:07 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:09:55 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund
for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been
direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but
needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to
check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info.

Mine came through fine.

IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if
they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am
not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking
at my balance.

Us modernized folks can check our accounts online.
+

I guess if you believe, go for it.
I limit online exposure to my money.


Me too. It's between me and my bank.


You your bank and anyone else on the internet who can crack your
security or the bank's.

If I believe in what?


That you or they can't be hacked.


The convenience is well worth the odds.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

[email protected] April 20th 20 05:57 PM

stimulus payments
 
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:58:56 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:31:18 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:27:07 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:09:55 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund
for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been
direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but
needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to
check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info.

Mine came through fine.

IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if
they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am
not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking
at my balance.

Us modernized folks can check our accounts online.
+

I guess if you believe, go for it.
I limit online exposure to my money.

Me too. It's between me and my bank.


You your bank and anyone else on the internet who can crack your
security or the bank's.

If I believe in what?


That you or they can't be hacked.


The convenience is well worth the odds.


What convenience? I have enough money in the bank that I don't need to
be looking at it every day.

Its Me April 20th 20 05:59 PM

stimulus payments
 
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 12:59:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/19/2020 11:22 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:36:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:39:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/19/2020 7:09 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund
for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been
direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but
needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to
check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info.

Mine came through fine.

IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if
they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am
not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking
at my balance.

Us modernized folks can check our accounts online.
+



I guess if you believe, go for it.
I limit online exposure to my money.


How do you think your stimulus money is being sent to your account?
Or your SS deposits?

According to cyber experts, on-line banking, being encrypted, is more
secure than physically appearing at your bank and depositing or
withdrawing $$ that creates an unencrypted paper trail. It's also more
secure than using your ATM card.

If someone hacks the bank and gets your money you have recourse. If
they hack you, get your PIN/PW, it is not that certain how fast they
will make you whole, if ever. As far as they are concerned "You" took
the money (we saw you log in) and you have to prove otherwise.


===

Many, if not most, ATM machines are also taking your picture as you
transact. That's one of the ways they catch scammers.


I use online banking for just about everything. Paying bills,
checking accounts, deposits, receiving and sending wire transfers, etc.
Only written check I write is for the landscaping service in the
summer and snow plowing in the winter.

My wife is like Greg. SHe doesn't trust it. She has accounts in
another bank and does everything the old fashioned way except for
her SS check which is direct deposited. I've tried to convince
her that it's safe and very convenient. I've explained that every
time she uses her ATM card a credit card or even if she writes
a check at a store her account info is being
transmitted to the bank and back but she won't hear of it.


I remember back in the old days some people were leery of reading their credit card info to someone in a phone call when paying. They were concerned that someone could be listening and could steal the card numbers. But those same folks typically didn't have an issue dialing the card number on the phone's keypad.

What they didn't realize is how easy it was to just capture those DTMF digits with a cheap decoder and display or store them.

John[_6_] April 20th 20 06:09 PM

stimulus payments
 
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:57:25 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:58:56 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:31:18 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:27:07 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:09:55 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund
for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been
direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but
needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to
check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info.

Mine came through fine.

IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if
they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am
not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking
at my balance.

Us modernized folks can check our accounts online.
+

I guess if you believe, go for it.
I limit online exposure to my money.

Me too. It's between me and my bank.

You your bank and anyone else on the internet who can crack your
security or the bank's.

If I believe in what?

That you or they can't be hacked.


The convenience is well worth the odds.


What convenience? I have enough money in the bank that I don't need to
be looking at it every day.


I pay bills, get my checking, savings, and credit card statements all online
from the bank. Payments are made by transferring money online from one account
to another or to the payee - water, electric, gas, credit card, etc.

That's called convenience. Has nothing to do with how 'much' money you have.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

John[_6_] April 20th 20 06:12 PM

stimulus payments
 
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:09:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:57:25 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:58:56 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:31:18 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:27:07 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:09:55 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund
for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been
direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but
needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to
check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info.

Mine came through fine.

IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if
they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am
not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking
at my balance.

Us modernized folks can check our accounts online.
+

I guess if you believe, go for it.
I limit online exposure to my money.

Me too. It's between me and my bank.

You your bank and anyone else on the internet who can crack your
security or the bank's.

If I believe in what?

That you or they can't be hacked.

The convenience is well worth the odds.


What convenience? I have enough money in the bank that I don't need to
be looking at it every day.


I pay bills, get my checking, savings, and credit card statements all online
from the bank. Payments are made by transferring money online from one account
to another or to the payee - water, electric, gas, credit card, etc.

That's called convenience. Has nothing to do with how 'much' money you have.


Oh, and I checked my Trump payment online. Took all of about 30 seconds.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

Bill[_12_] April 20th 20 06:20 PM

stimulus payments
 
John wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:57:25 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:58:56 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:31:18 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:27:07 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:09:55 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund
for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been
direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but
needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to
check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info.

Mine came through fine.

IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if
they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am
not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking
at my balance.

Us modernized folks can check our accounts online.
+

I guess if you believe, go for it.
I limit online exposure to my money.

Me too. It's between me and my bank.

You your bank and anyone else on the internet who can crack your
security or the bank's.

If I believe in what?

That you or they can't be hacked.

The convenience is well worth the odds.


What convenience? I have enough money in the bank that I don't need to
be looking at it every day.


I pay bills, get my checking, savings, and credit card statements all online
from the bank. Payments are made by transferring money online from one account
to another or to the payee - water, electric, gas, credit card, etc.

That's called convenience. Has nothing to do with how 'much' money you have.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


We write so few checks that the wife realized we were pretty much out of
blank checks. Been years since we ordered. She writes a few, mostly kids
and grandkids holidays checks. I write maybe one or two a year.


Mr. Luddite[_4_] April 20th 20 06:32 PM

stimulus payments
 
On 4/20/2020 1:09 PM, John wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:57:25 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:58:56 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:31:18 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:27:07 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:09:55 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund
for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been
direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but
needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to
check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info.

Mine came through fine.

IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if
they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am
not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking
at my balance.

Us modernized folks can check our accounts online.
+

I guess if you believe, go for it.
I limit online exposure to my money.

Me too. It's between me and my bank.

You your bank and anyone else on the internet who can crack your
security or the bank's.

If I believe in what?

That you or they can't be hacked.

The convenience is well worth the odds.


What convenience? I have enough money in the bank that I don't need to
be looking at it every day.




I pay bills, get my checking, savings, and credit card statements all online
from the bank. Payments are made by transferring money online from one account
to another or to the payee - water, electric, gas, credit card, etc.

That's called convenience. Has nothing to do with how 'much' money you have.


Greg doesn't have to deal with those issues. He gets water from his
well with a bucket, rope and hand crank. He generates his own
electricity on his generator modified to run on methane that he
captures from swamps down near the water. No need for gas.
His car also runs on methane. Learned how to do all this on
one of his Win 98 computers. :-)

(just kidding Greg)

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Keyser Soze April 20th 20 06:47 PM

stimulus payments
 
On 4/20/20 1:32 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/20/2020 1:09 PM, John wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:57:25 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:58:56 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:31:18 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:27:07 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:09:55 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill

wrote:



I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was.Â* We
get our refund
for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15
years have been
direct deposit to the same account.Â*Â* The site said I was
eligible, but
needed banking info.Â*Â* Sad, they are this incompetent.Â* So
you may want to
check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info.

Mine came through fine.

IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if
they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank
statement. I am
not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by
looking
at my balance.

Us modernized folks can check our accounts online.
+

I guess if you believe, go for it.
I limit online exposure to my money.

Me too. It's between me and my bank.

You your bank and anyone else on the internet who can crack your
security or the bank's.

If I believe in what?

That you or they can't be hacked.

The convenience is well worth the odds.

What convenience? I have enough money in the bank that I don't need to
be looking at it every day.




I pay bills, get my checking, savings, and credit card statements all
online
from the bank. Payments are made by transferring money online from one
account
to another or to the payee - water, electric, gas, credit card, etc.

That's called convenience. Has nothing to do with how 'much' money you
have.


Greg doesn't have to deal with those issues.Â* He gets water from his
well with a bucket, rope and hand crank.Â* He generates his own
electricity on his generator modified to run on methane that he
captures from swamps down near the water.Â* No need for gas.
His car also runs on methane.Â* Learned how to do all this on
one of his Win 98 computers.Â*Â* :-)

(just kidding Greg)


Greg is a loonytarian. As such, he won't buy a new car because
automakers got government help. He won't drive his cars on public roads
because they were government-financed. If he gets sick, he goes to a
private hospital that gets no public funding. His neighbors think Greg
is bat**** crazy, and they are right.

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[email protected] April 20th 20 07:07 PM

stimulus payments
 
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 09:59:10 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 12:59:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/19/2020 11:22 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:36:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:39:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/19/2020 7:09 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:34:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:03:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:38:44 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



I looked on the IRS site wondering where my money was. We get our refund
for years direct deposit, our social security checks for 15 years have been
direct deposit to the same account. The site said I was eligible, but
needed banking info. Sad, they are this incompetent. So you may want to
check your eligibility and see if they have the bank info.

Mine came through fine.

IRS says they sent mine but I should check with the bank to see if
they have it. I am just going to wait for my next bank statement. I am
not even sure the bank is open. I doubt I will see it just by looking
at my balance.

Us modernized folks can check our accounts online.
+



I guess if you believe, go for it.
I limit online exposure to my money.


How do you think your stimulus money is being sent to your account?
Or your SS deposits?

According to cyber experts, on-line banking, being encrypted, is more
secure than physically appearing at your bank and depositing or
withdrawing $$ that creates an unencrypted paper trail. It's also more
secure than using your ATM card.

If someone hacks the bank and gets your money you have recourse. If
they hack you, get your PIN/PW, it is not that certain how fast they
will make you whole, if ever. As far as they are concerned "You" took
the money (we saw you log in) and you have to prove otherwise.

===

Many, if not most, ATM machines are also taking your picture as you
transact. That's one of the ways they catch scammers.


I use online banking for just about everything. Paying bills,
checking accounts, deposits, receiving and sending wire transfers, etc.
Only written check I write is for the landscaping service in the
summer and snow plowing in the winter.

My wife is like Greg. SHe doesn't trust it. She has accounts in
another bank and does everything the old fashioned way except for
her SS check which is direct deposited. I've tried to convince
her that it's safe and very convenient. I've explained that every
time she uses her ATM card a credit card or even if she writes
a check at a store her account info is being
transmitted to the bank and back but she won't hear of it.


I remember back in the old days some people were leery of reading their credit card info to someone in a phone call when paying. They were concerned that someone could be listening and could steal the card numbers. But those same folks typically didn't have an issue dialing the card number on the phone's keypad.

What they didn't realize is how easy it was to just capture those DTMF digits with a cheap decoder and display or store them.


The issue was giving out your number to a stranger, no matter what the
transmission method was. Congress fixed that by making the CC company
eat fraudulent charges. Credit cards were so profitable that they went
along.


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