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Apparently, after promising to tool up to produce ventilators, GM started demanding excessive up front money, jacking the price per ventilator up and producing less than was originally promised. Trump just punched back, invoking the Defense Production Act to require General Motors to produce the ventilators, like it or not. That's it. I am trading my GM Canyon in on a Ford. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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On 3/27/20 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Apparently, after promising to tool up to produce ventilators, GM started demanding excessive up front money, jacking the price per ventilator up and producing less than was originally promised. Trump just punched back, invoking the Defense Production Act to require General Motors to produce the ventilators, like it or not. That's it. I am trading my GM Canyon in on a Ford. We now lead the world in COVOID-19 cases, partly as a result of Trump's zigzagging, lying, and stalling on coming up with real responses to the virus. MAGA. Hospital ventilators are not simple devices. If GM doesn't buy the technology and dies and so forth, I wonder how quickly the auto company can produce them in numbers. |
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On 3/27/2020 7:07 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/27/20 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Apparently, after promising to tool up to produce ventilators, GM started demanding excessive up front money, jacking the price per ventilator up and producing less than was originally promised. Trump just punched back, invoking the Defense Production Act to require General Motors to produce the ventilators, like it or not. That's it. I am trading my GM Canyon in on a Ford. We now lead the world in COVOID-19 cases, partly as a result of Trump's zigzagging, lying, and stalling on coming up with real responses to the virus. MAGA. Hospital ventilators are not simple devices. If GM doesn't buy the technology and dies and so forth, I wonder how quickly the auto company can produce them in numbers. Take a chill pill. Or maybe you've already taken too many? First of all, it's not like GM or Ford or Tesla has to start from scratch. The POTUS under the Defense Production Act can order the design drawings, manufacturing procedures, bills of material with sources from any current manufacturer to be given to GM, Ford or Tesla. What the auto manufacturers bring to the table is manufacturing capacity. Second, I am surprised to see you dumping on the Donald in this case. It was GM (big business, remember?) who was trying to extort and take advantage of a national crisis. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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On 3/27/20 7:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/27/2020 7:07 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Apparently, after promising to tool up to produce ventilators, GM started demanding excessive up front money, jacking the price per ventilator up and producing less than was originally promised. Trump just punched back, invoking the Defense Production Act to require General Motors to produce the ventilators, like it or not. That's it. I am trading my GM Canyon in on a Ford. We now lead the world in COVOID-19 cases, partly as a result of Trump's zigzagging, lying, and stalling on coming up with real responses to the virus. MAGA. Hospital ventilators are not simple devices. If GM doesn't buy the technology and dies and so forth, I wonder how quickly the auto company can produce them in numbers. Take a chill pill.Â* Or maybe you've already taken too many? First of all, it's not like GM or Ford or Tesla has to start from scratch. The POTUS under the Defense Production Act can order the design drawings, manufacturing procedures, bills of material with sources from any current manufacturer to be given to GM, Ford or Tesla.Â* What the auto manufacturers bring to the table is manufacturing capacity. Second, I am surprised to see you dumping on the Donald in this case.Â* It was GM (big business, remember?)Â* who was trying to extort and take advantage of a national crisis. Extortion is the byword of Trump. Have we spent $100 million yet on his golfing weekends? It's going to take GM and anyone else some time...weeks, months? to start producing reliable ventilators. |
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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 3/27/20 7:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 7:07 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Apparently, after promising to tool up to produce ventilators, GM started demanding excessive up front money, jacking the price per ventilator up and producing less than was originally promised. Trump just punched back, invoking the Defense Production Act to require General Motors to produce the ventilators, like it or not. That's it. I am trading my GM Canyon in on a Ford. We now lead the world in COVOID-19 cases, partly as a result of Trump's zigzagging, lying, and stalling on coming up with real responses to the virus. MAGA. Hospital ventilators are not simple devices. If GM doesn't buy the technology and dies and so forth, I wonder how quickly the auto company can produce them in numbers. Take a chill pill. Or maybe you've already taken too many? First of all, it's not like GM or Ford or Tesla has to start from scratch. The POTUS under the Defense Production Act can order the design drawings, manufacturing procedures, bills of material with sources from any current manufacturer to be given to GM, Ford or Tesla. What the auto manufacturers bring to the table is manufacturing capacity. Second, I am surprised to see you dumping on the Donald in this case. It was GM (big business, remember?) who was trying to extort and take advantage of a national crisis. Extortion is the byword of Trump. Have we spent $100 million yet on his golfing weekends?It's going to take GM and anyone else some time...weeks, months? to start producing reliable ventilators. Is your wife any good at recognizeing mental illness? -- .. ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text - Take a chill pill. Or maybe you've already taken too many? First of all, it's not like GM or Ford or Tesla has to start from scratch. The POTUS under the Defense Production Act can order the design drawings, manufacturing procedures, bills of material with sources from any current manufacturer to be given to GM, Ford or Tesla. What the auto manufacturers bring to the table is manufacturing capacity. Second, I am surprised to see you dumping on the Donald in this case. It was GM (big business, remember?) who was trying to extort and take advantage of a national crisis. “ - show quoted text - I’m surprised that someone like Toyota or Honda hasn’t already put them into production. Or the people who make CPAC machines for that matter |
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On 3/27/2020 7:26 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/27/20 7:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 7:07 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Apparently, after promising to tool up to produce ventilators, GM started demanding excessive up front money, jacking the price per ventilator up and producing less than was originally promised. Trump just punched back, invoking the Defense Production Act to require General Motors to produce the ventilators, like it or not. That's it. I am trading my GM Canyon in on a Ford. We now lead the world in COVOID-19 cases, partly as a result of Trump's zigzagging, lying, and stalling on coming up with real responses to the virus. MAGA. Hospital ventilators are not simple devices. If GM doesn't buy the technology and dies and so forth, I wonder how quickly the auto company can produce them in numbers. Take a chill pill.Â* Or maybe you've already taken too many? First of all, it's not like GM or Ford or Tesla has to start from scratch. The POTUS under the Defense Production Act can order the design drawings, manufacturing procedures, bills of material with sources from any current manufacturer to be given to GM, Ford or Tesla.Â* What the auto manufacturers bring to the table is manufacturing capacity. Second, I am surprised to see you dumping on the Donald in this case.Â* It was GM (big business, remember?)Â* who was trying to extort and take advantage of a national crisis. Extortion is the byword of Trump. Have we spent $100 million yet on his golfing weekends? It's going to take GM and anyone else some time...weeks, months? to start producing reliable ventilators. Maybe we'll need them. Hopefully we won't. But knowledge has been gained about how to be prepared and there's talk that even if this cycle of covid-19 dies down, it may be back again ... or something like it. You are treating this as if it's business as usual. It's not. This is a national emergency the likes of which none of us have seen in our life time. Extraordinary measures are in order. Two days ago the Dems were accusing Trump of not fully invoking the Defense Act. He was criticized of relying on the promises of GM, Ford and Tesla. But now that GM is playing games and he fully invokes the Defense Act, he's now being criticized by the same people for doing it. If there's anything that can be used to dump on Trump you and your pals will take full advantage of it. It's a little disgusting under the circumstances. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 3/27/20 7:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 7:07 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Apparently, after promising to tool up to produce ventilators, GM started demanding excessive up front money, jacking the price per ventilator up and producing less than was originally promised. Trump just punched back, invoking the Defense Production Act to require General Motors to produce the ventilators, like it or not. That's it. I am trading my GM Canyon in on a Ford. We now lead the world in COVOID-19 cases, partly as a result of Trump's zigzagging, lying, and stalling on coming up with real responses to the virus. MAGA. Hospital ventilators are not simple devices. If GM doesn't buy the technology and dies and so forth, I wonder how quickly the auto company can produce them in numbers. Take a chill pill. Or maybe you've already taken too many? First of all, it's not like GM or Ford or Tesla has to start from scratch. The POTUS under the Defense Production Act can order the design drawings, manufacturing procedures, bills of material with sources from any current manufacturer to be given to GM, Ford or Tesla. What the auto manufacturers bring to the table is manufacturing capacity. Second, I am surprised to see you dumping on the Donald in this case. It was GM (big business, remember?) who was trying to extort and take advantage of a national crisis. Extortion is the byword of Trump. Have we spent $100 million yet on his golfing weekends?It's going to take GM and anyone else some time...weeks, months? to start producing reliable ventilators. What does Fat Boy know about business and manufacturing? Why, he can't even manage his own widdle life. -- .. ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 3/27/2020 7:35 PM, Tim wrote:
Mr. Luddite - show quoted text - Take a chill pill. Or maybe you've already taken too many? First of all, it's not like GM or Ford or Tesla has to start from scratch. The POTUS under the Defense Production Act can order the design drawings, manufacturing procedures, bills of material with sources from any current manufacturer to be given to GM, Ford or Tesla. What the auto manufacturers bring to the table is manufacturing capacity. Second, I am surprised to see you dumping on the Donald in this case. It was GM (big business, remember?) who was trying to extort and take advantage of a national crisis. “ - show quoted text - I’m surprised that someone like Toyota or Honda hasn’t already put them into production. Or the people who make CPAC machines for that matter Toyota or Honda could probably do it but I am not sure they fall under the Defense Production Act. Maybe the US plants do. The key isn't a need to re-invent the wheel. The key is manufacturing capacity and space to do it, something the auto manufacturers have. Issue here is that GM, Ford and Tesla offered without being asked or directed to by invoking the act. GM apparently reneged somewhat, lowering how many they could build and upping the price. Remains to be seen what Ford and Tesla does. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 3/27/2020 7:26 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 7:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 7:07 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Apparently, after promising to tool up to produce ventilators, GM started demanding excessive up front money, jacking the price per ventilator up and producing less than was originally promised. Trump just punched back, invoking the Defense Production Act to require General Motors to produce the ventilators, like it or not. That's it. I am trading my GM Canyon in on a Ford. We now lead the world in COVOID-19 cases, partly as a result of Trump's zigzagging, lying, and stalling on coming up with real responses to the virus. MAGA. Hospital ventilators are not simple devices. If GM doesn't buy the technology and dies and so forth, I wonder how quickly the auto company can produce them in numbers. Take a chill pill. Or maybe you've already taken too many? First of all, it's not like GM or Ford or Tesla has to start from scratch. The POTUS under the Defense Production Act can order the design drawings, manufacturing procedures, bills of material with sources from any current manufacturer to be given to GM, Ford or Tesla. What the auto manufacturers bring to the table is manufacturing capacity. Second, I am surprised to see you dumping on the Donald in this case. It was GM (big business, remember?) who was trying to extort and take advantage of a national crisis. Extortion is the byword of Trump. Have we spent $100 million yet on his golfing weekends? It's going to take GM and anyone else some time...weeks, months? to start producing reliable ventilators. Maybe we'll need them. Hopefully we won't. But knowledge has beengained about how to be prepared and there's talk that even if thiscycle of covid-19 dies down, it may be back again ... or somethinglike it.You are treating this as if it's business as usual. It's not.This is a national emergency the likes of which none of us haveseen in our life time.Extraordinary measures are in order.Two days ago the Dems were accusingTrump of not fully invoking the Defense Act. He wascriticized of relying onthe promises of GM, Ford and Tesla. But now that GM is playinggames and he fully invokes the Defense Act, he's now beingcriticized by the same people for doing it.If there's anythingthat can be used to dump on Trump you and your pals will take fulladvantage of it.It's a little disgusting under the circumstances.-- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.https://www.avg.com Fat Harry's brain was wired by liberal progressive union politics. He is incapable of individual thought. Hate is what he was taught. Hate is what he does. My little dog has more brain cells than our fat boy from Mary-Land. -- .. ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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