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Mr. Luddite[_4_] March 29th 20 05:06 PM

General Motors
 
On 3/29/2020 10:43 AM, John wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 08:21:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/29/2020 8:11 AM, John wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 08:00:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/29/2020 7:50 AM, John wrote:
On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


Can’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.

Sometimes you should do things simply because you feel like it or it
interests you. All in moderation, of course.

I had the last F-250 for almost 9 years but I also had a "kicker"
car just for running around town or simply because it interested
me. As a result, after almost 9 years the F-250 only had about
43K miles on it and when I traded it in the dealership was drooling
over getting it.

I used the F-250 mostly for what it was designed to do ... pulling
a trailer with the tractor on it, plowing snow in the winter and
hauling heavy stuff like landscaping bricks, etc. Only took it
for a long distance once (to South Carolina and back) and had
fun trying to average better than 15 miles per gallon. :-)

For a while I was using the truck mostly for pulling the trailer. But I find it
much more comfortable than my wife's Subaru, so we've started using it for
trailerless trips also. I try, on the interstate, to keep the mileage above 22,
without the trailer, and above 12 with the trailer. For the local stuff, I'll
use the motorcycle if the weather's decent.


The F-350 diesel I had previous to the F-250 gasser was purchased for
the same reason ... towing a fifth wheel RV. It delivered above 20
mpg in normal use ... assuming the 6.0L engine it had ran.

I had tried a GM 2500 diesel as well and it rode a lot softer than
the Ford. It was a nice truck but I went for the Ford in the end.
Should have researched the problems with that engine more.

Worst riding truck I had was a 1998 Dodge Ram 2500. Rode like
a brick but was otherwise a nice truck. The Fords ride better
but not as nice as the GM offerings.

I haven't tried a F-150 though. I've heard they ride like a
large car, being on a different suspension than the Superduty
Fords.


Before I bought my first pickup, a GMC, I test drove a Dodge. You're right, it
was the absolute worst riding vehicle I've been in, other than maybe an M-60
tank going cross-country. We didnt' go two miles, in town, and took it back to
the dealer with a 'no thanks'.


The Ram I had was really a super-heavy duty truck. I ended up giving it
to my nephew who had a construction business.

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John[_6_] March 29th 20 05:11 PM

General Motors
 
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:26:54 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:50:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -


Cant afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.


I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.
--


===

You can pick up older Mercedes diesels for fairly reasonable prices.
We just sold a 2007 E320 with 130K miles on it for $3K, the Kelly
bluebook price. The car still looked great and ran very well most of
the time. It had begun to develop some annoying electronic glitches
however that our mechanic couldn't get a handle on. It was a v6 turbo
diesel that developed 400 ft-lbs of torque and got over 30 mpg. The
fuel range on trips was close to 700 miles. Except for the glitches
it was still a great car that will probably go another 70K miles or
more.


That's more or less what I've been looking at. Sound like your buyer got a good
deal. I wouldn't mind putting a few bucks into it.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

John[_6_] March 29th 20 05:12 PM

General Motors
 
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:06:29 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/29/20 12:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/29/2020 11:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 08:04:49 -0400,
wrote:

I saw a doctor being asked if a CPAP machine could be modified for
use as a ventilator.** Answer was "No".

Also saw another doc who is currently working in a hospital in
NYC.* He explained the protocols and steps taken when a person
is admitted with covid-19 and has difficulty breathing.

They are not put on a ventilator initially.* They start with a
oxygen face mask.* If the patient responds well, that's all
they do.

Often though, the patient will initially seem to do better
but then deteriorate.* At that point they use another type
of oxygen delivery system that is under pressure.

If that fails, they go to another oxygen system that I can't
remember how it differs, but somehow it's a 'high delivery"
system.

If that fails the patient is then put on a ventilator.
The doc said the ventilator is used when all else has
failed and is used as a last resort.

I still haven't heard what the survival rate is when measures go that
far.

===


I read somewhere recently that the survival rate for ICU patients on
ventilators was about 50%, and virtually all of the 50% survivors had
some permanent lung damage.* Unfortunately I don't have the original
cite for that.


The doc I heard said basically the same thing which was a surprise to
me.* The ventilators that are being talked about so much are the
"last ditch" effort to try to save people who are severely affected
and the survival rate, as you say and as the doc said, is only
about 50 percent ... maybe even less.




What we need are massive, city by city rallies of Trump supporters
interacting on a close, personal level, especially the ones who bought
into their saviour's bull**** of how insignificant the impact of the
virus would be. Party on, and then head to Florida's west coast beaches.


The expression, "**** you" is more than you deserve.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

Its Me March 29th 20 05:35 PM

General Motors
 
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:06:31 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/29/20 12:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/29/2020 11:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 08:04:49 -0400,
wrote:

I saw a doctor being asked if a CPAP machine could be modified for
use as a ventilator.** Answer was "No".

Also saw another doc who is currently working in a hospital in
NYC.* He explained the protocols and steps taken when a person
is admitted with covid-19 and has difficulty breathing.

They are not put on a ventilator initially.* They start with a
oxygen face mask.* If the patient responds well, that's all
they do.

Often though, the patient will initially seem to do better
but then deteriorate.* At that point they use another type
of oxygen delivery system that is under pressure.

If that fails, they go to another oxygen system that I can't
remember how it differs, but somehow it's a 'high delivery"
system.

If that fails the patient is then put on a ventilator.
The doc said the ventilator is used when all else has
failed and is used as a last resort.

I still haven't heard what the survival rate is when measures go that
far.

===


I read somewhere recently that the survival rate for ICU patients on
ventilators was about 50%, and virtually all of the 50% survivors had
some permanent lung damage.* Unfortunately I don't have the original
cite for that.


The doc I heard said basically the same thing which was a surprise to
me.* The ventilators that are being talked about so much are the
"last ditch" effort to try to save people who are severely affected
and the survival rate, as you say and as the doc said, is only
about 50 percent ... maybe even less.




What we need are massive, city by city rallies of Trump supporters
interacting on a close, personal level, especially the ones who bought
into their saviour's bull**** of how insignificant the impact of the
virus would be. Party on, and then head to Florida's west coast beaches.


They've been doing that already. Oh, sorry. That was the idiot liberal Democrat voters.

Tim March 29th 20 05:58 PM

General Motors
 
Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
The Ram I had was really a super-heavy duty truck. I ended up giving it
to my nephew who had a construction business.
- show quoted text -“”

I had a 94 Cummins ram 3500. Torque rattling beast! Mrs hated it. I finally sold it when I parked my boat for a while. Now I have a 28’ pontoon, I got back into bye truck business f-150 club cab short bed. Steers like a log wagon but it’ll do for now

[email protected] March 29th 20 07:30 PM

General Motors
 
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:11:26 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:26:54 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:50:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -


Cant afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.
--


===

You can pick up older Mercedes diesels for fairly reasonable prices.
We just sold a 2007 E320 with 130K miles on it for $3K, the Kelly
bluebook price. The car still looked great and ran very well most of
the time. It had begun to develop some annoying electronic glitches
however that our mechanic couldn't get a handle on. It was a v6 turbo
diesel that developed 400 ft-lbs of torque and got over 30 mpg. The
fuel range on trips was close to 700 miles. Except for the glitches
it was still a great car that will probably go another 70K miles or
more.


That's more or less what I've been looking at. Sound like your buyer got a good
deal. I wouldn't mind putting a few bucks into it.
--


===

Our buyer was the local CarMax since that is the quickest and cleanest
way to sell that I'm aware of. Since it was over 10 years old they
were going to auction it off, and I doubt that they made much money on
the deal. I didn't want to be bothered with a private sale and
possible recriminations from a disgruntled purchaser.

The biggest issue with older luxury cars is maintenance. The cars may
be a bargain but parts and service are not.

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Bill[_12_] March 29th 20 07:31 PM

General Motors
 
John wrote:
On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


Can’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.


I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.


I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


I bought a Volt for most driving when I had the last Truck. Better
mileage, fits in a parking slot. Cost wise, yup, costs more. Since it
is a plug in electric vehicle, I get a different rate on my home
electricity. From 11 pm to 6 am, I pay about 30% the normal rate, and our
electricity here is expensive. There is an off peak rate also. It is a
hybrid, so even if I want to go further than the 40 mile battery range, no
problem. Run in gas at 35 mpg. The convenience is worth’s he extra
bucks. Is a 2014 and used for $14000 when I bought it. I like the plug
in hybrid as not mileage limited.


John[_6_] March 29th 20 07:45 PM

General Motors
 
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 14:30:08 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:11:26 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:26:54 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:50:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -


Cant afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.
--


===

You can pick up older Mercedes diesels for fairly reasonable prices.
We just sold a 2007 E320 with 130K miles on it for $3K, the Kelly
bluebook price. The car still looked great and ran very well most of
the time. It had begun to develop some annoying electronic glitches
however that our mechanic couldn't get a handle on. It was a v6 turbo
diesel that developed 400 ft-lbs of torque and got over 30 mpg. The
fuel range on trips was close to 700 miles. Except for the glitches
it was still a great car that will probably go another 70K miles or
more.


That's more or less what I've been looking at. Sound like your buyer got a good
deal. I wouldn't mind putting a few bucks into it.
--


===

Our buyer was the local CarMax since that is the quickest and cleanest
way to sell that I'm aware of. Since it was over 10 years old they
were going to auction it off, and I doubt that they made much money on
the deal. I didn't want to be bothered with a private sale and
possible recriminations from a disgruntled purchaser.

The biggest issue with older luxury cars is maintenance. The cars may
be a bargain but parts and service are not.


I would have thought parts would be pretty available for a 2007. Hell, I'm
thinking of something in the 90's!
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

[email protected] March 29th 20 07:47 PM

General Motors
 
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:50:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


Can’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.


I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.


I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.


That is why I haven't swapped the Honda for an electric. For the 2000
miles a year I drive, I would never get my money back. I am sure it
will be way less than that this year. To start with I am not going to
the beach once a month to drop water samples. That is postponed
indefinitely. I won't be going to Tampa any time soon either. That is
my big mile maker. (300+ each time). The way it is going I might not
get 1200 this year. I seem to be doing about 15 miles a week. If they
cancel my FILs PT it will be less than that.

[email protected] March 29th 20 07:55 PM

General Motors
 
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:50:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


Can’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.


I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.


I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.


We had a CRV for a while and it shares the same issue I have with my
Prelude. (not that different when you turn them over. It is a Civic)
Road noise from the rear axle is excessive. Tires don't really change
that much and on the right (wrong?) road surface you have to turn up
the music to hear it.
Maybe they fixed that but it was an issue on the older ones. I would
certainly want to drive one at 50-60 before I bought it.


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