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Keyser Soze wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 07:49:20 -0400, John wrote:

On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:13:09 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:43:13 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:41:49 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 07:39:21 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313

They did have a head start and they do have a higher population
density. New York will be a good test of the population density thing.
Those people in Manhattan have less than 400 square feet each to live
their whole lives. (based on pop density) My garage is bigger than
that.

I think Luddite shot some of that out of the water. We have just as high a
density in our population centers as those countries do.

Not if you take the US as a whole ... by a long shot. I agree the
density of Europe is like the I95 or I5 corridor but as soon as you
turn inward the density falls off fast. Even so except for Norway
Finland and Denmark most of europe is dark orange or red on this map
https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/512popdn.pdf

You are a math whiz. A Sq/mi is ~2.6 sq/km
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_a...pean_countries

I said 'in our population centers'! Jeees.


... and I said the I-95 I-5 corridors so we are on the same page but
most of the country is not there. I agree when this gets loose in the
city it will be a nightmare, particularly when the homeless get it. I
am just not sure how you score those deaths. Was it C-19 or one of the
usual things that kill them ... and do we really care?


We are not all non-caring loonytarians.



No, you are a non caring leftist. Gimme, gimme, gimme.


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Keyser Soze wrote:
Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 08:35:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/24/2020 7:49 AM, John wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:13:09 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:43:13 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:41:49 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 07:39:21 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313

They did have a head start and they do have a higher population
density. New York will be a good test of the population density thing.
Those people in Manhattan have less than 400 square feet each to live
their whole lives. (based on pop density) My garage is bigger than
that.

I think Luddite shot some of that out of the water. We have just as high a
density in our population centers as those countries do.

Not if you take the US as a whole ... by a long shot. I agree the
density of Europe is like the I95 or I5 corridor but as soon as you
turn inward the density falls off fast. Even so except for Norway
Finland and Denmark most of europe is dark orange or red on this map
https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/512popdn.pdf

You are a math whiz. A Sq/mi is ~2.6 sq/km
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_a...pean_countries

I said 'in our population centers'! Jeees.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



This thread has become confused. The comment I made earlier had
nothing to do with population density. It had to do with
one of Harry's assertions that the corvid-19 virus established
itself in countries in Europe *before* it was first confirmed
in the USA. He was trying to make the case that *that* is the
reason for their higher death rate per million population.

I presented dates of the first confirmed cases for several
countries including those that Harry routinely
likes to compare their superior health care systems to
that of the USA.

Bottom line ... the Corvid-19 virus was confirmed in the
USA weeks or in one case at least a month before it
was confirmed in his favorite countries in Europe.

Unfortunately the first cases in Washington State were in a nursing
home where the death rate was staggering but not unusual for a nursing
home. Those people don't expect to come out of there alive in the
first place.


Seeing the charts where most of the cases are in the elderly, does not seem
correct. I think the disease should be more evenly distributed.
Therefore there has to be a lot of undiagnosed cases. They will be mild,
so the younger are thinking it is something else and not getting checked.



You are correct...there are lots of undiagnosed cases.



And how do you know this? Now a medical expert?

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John wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 17:14:58 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 08:35:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/24/2020 7:49 AM, John wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:13:09 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:43:13 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:41:49 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 07:39:21 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313

They did have a head start and they do have a higher population
density. New York will be a good test of the population density thing.
Those people in Manhattan have less than 400 square feet each to live
their whole lives. (based on pop density) My garage is bigger than
that.

I think Luddite shot some of that out of the water. We have just as high a
density in our population centers as those countries do.

Not if you take the US as a whole ... by a long shot. I agree the
density of Europe is like the I95 or I5 corridor but as soon as you
turn inward the density falls off fast. Even so except for Norway
Finland and Denmark most of europe is dark orange or red on this map
https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/512popdn.pdf

You are a math whiz. A Sq/mi is ~2.6 sq/km
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_a...pean_countries

I said 'in our population centers'! Jeees.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



This thread has become confused. The comment I made earlier had
nothing to do with population density. It had to do with
one of Harry's assertions that the corvid-19 virus established
itself in countries in Europe *before* it was first confirmed
in the USA. He was trying to make the case that *that* is the
reason for their higher death rate per million population.

I presented dates of the first confirmed cases for several
countries including those that Harry routinely
likes to compare their superior health care systems to
that of the USA.

Bottom line ... the Corvid-19 virus was confirmed in the
USA weeks or in one case at least a month before it
was confirmed in his favorite countries in Europe.

Unfortunately the first cases in Washington State were in a nursing
home where the death rate was staggering but not unusual for a nursing
home. Those people don't expect to come out of there alive in the
first place.


Seeing the charts where most of the cases are in the elderly, does not seem
correct. I think the disease should be more evenly distributed.
Therefore there has to be a lot of undiagnosed cases. They will be mild,
so the younger are thinking it is something else and not getting checked.


Not sure what you mean by 'evenly distributed'. The 106/1M cases could be evenly
distributed, but you'd still not see but a few in states like Wyoming and
Montana. The cases would be clustered in the high population centers.
--

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Should be fairly evenly distributed age wise. Not referring to
geographical area. Maybe even a few more towards the middle years than the
elderly, as they meet more people.

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John wrote:
On 24 Mar 2020 17:35:07 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 08:35:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/24/2020 7:49 AM, John wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:13:09 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:43:13 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:41:49 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 07:39:21 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313

They did have a head start and they do have a higher population
density. New York will be a good test of the population density thing.
Those people in Manhattan have less than 400 square feet each to live
their whole lives. (based on pop density) My garage is bigger than
that.

I think Luddite shot some of that out of the water. We have just as high a
density in our population centers as those countries do.

Not if you take the US as a whole ... by a long shot. I agree the
density of Europe is like the I95 or I5 corridor but as soon as you
turn inward the density falls off fast. Even so except for Norway
Finland and Denmark most of europe is dark orange or red on this map
https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/512popdn.pdf

You are a math whiz. A Sq/mi is ~2.6 sq/km
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_a...pean_countries

I said 'in our population centers'! Jeees.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



This thread has become confused. The comment I made earlier had
nothing to do with population density. It had to do with
one of Harry's assertions that the corvid-19 virus established
itself in countries in Europe *before* it was first confirmed
in the USA. He was trying to make the case that *that* is the
reason for their higher death rate per million population.

I presented dates of the first confirmed cases for several
countries including those that Harry routinely
likes to compare their superior health care systems to
that of the USA.

Bottom line ... the Corvid-19 virus was confirmed in the
USA weeks or in one case at least a month before it
was confirmed in his favorite countries in Europe.

Unfortunately the first cases in Washington State were in a nursing
home where the death rate was staggering but not unusual for a nursing
home. Those people don't expect to come out of there alive in the
first place.


Seeing the charts where most of the cases are in the elderly, does not seem
correct. I think the disease should be more evenly distributed.
Therefore there has to be a lot of undiagnosed cases. They will be mild,
so the younger are thinking it is something else and not getting checked.



You are correct...there are lots of undiagnosed cases.


So what? Is that Trump's fault? The undiagnosed cases should have the same
distribution as the diagnosed cases.
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They should, if every case was diagnosed. But if younger people have
little symptoms, are more a carrier than a victim, we will see more of a
chart where diagnosis follows the more likely to have severe symptoms, not
the infected.

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On 3/24/20 2:47 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 08:35:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/24/2020 7:49 AM, John wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:13:09 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:43:13 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:41:49 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 07:39:21 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313

They did have a head start and they do have a higher population
density. New York will be a good test of the population density thing.
Those people in Manhattan have less than 400 square feet each to live
their whole lives. (based on pop density) My garage is bigger than
that.

I think Luddite shot some of that out of the water. We have just as high a
density in our population centers as those countries do.

Not if you take the US as a whole ... by a long shot. I agree the
density of Europe is like the I95 or I5 corridor but as soon as you
turn inward the density falls off fast. Even so except for Norway
Finland and Denmark most of europe is dark orange or red on this map
https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/512popdn.pdf

You are a math whiz. A Sq/mi is ~2.6 sq/km
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_a...pean_countries

I said 'in our population centers'! Jeees.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



This thread has become confused. The comment I made earlier had
nothing to do with population density. It had to do with
one of Harry's assertions that the corvid-19 virus established
itself in countries in Europe *before* it was first confirmed
in the USA. He was trying to make the case that *that* is the
reason for their higher death rate per million population.

I presented dates of the first confirmed cases for several
countries including those that Harry routinely
likes to compare their superior health care systems to
that of the USA.

Bottom line ... the Corvid-19 virus was confirmed in the
USA weeks or in one case at least a month before it
was confirmed in his favorite countries in Europe.

Unfortunately the first cases in Washington State were in a nursing
home where the death rate was staggering but not unusual for a nursing
home. Those people don't expect to come out of there alive in the
first place.


Seeing the charts where most of the cases are in the elderly, does not seem
correct. I think the disease should be more evenly distributed.
Therefore there has to be a lot of undiagnosed cases. They will be mild,
so the younger are thinking it is something else and not getting checked.



You are correct...there are lots of undiagnosed cases.



And how do you know this? Now a medical expert?


I was agreeing with you. For the most part, access to the tests has been
restricted to relatively few of those with the severest symptoms and
hardly at all to those with mild symptoms. Ergo, there are a lot of
undiagnosed cases.


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On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 18:47:32 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 17:14:58 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 08:35:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/24/2020 7:49 AM, John wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:13:09 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:43:13 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:41:49 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 07:39:21 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313

They did have a head start and they do have a higher population
density. New York will be a good test of the population density thing.
Those people in Manhattan have less than 400 square feet each to live
their whole lives. (based on pop density) My garage is bigger than
that.

I think Luddite shot some of that out of the water. We have just as high a
density in our population centers as those countries do.

Not if you take the US as a whole ... by a long shot. I agree the
density of Europe is like the I95 or I5 corridor but as soon as you
turn inward the density falls off fast. Even so except for Norway
Finland and Denmark most of europe is dark orange or red on this map
https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/512popdn.pdf

You are a math whiz. A Sq/mi is ~2.6 sq/km
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_a...pean_countries

I said 'in our population centers'! Jeees.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



This thread has become confused. The comment I made earlier had
nothing to do with population density. It had to do with
one of Harry's assertions that the corvid-19 virus established
itself in countries in Europe *before* it was first confirmed
in the USA. He was trying to make the case that *that* is the
reason for their higher death rate per million population.

I presented dates of the first confirmed cases for several
countries including those that Harry routinely
likes to compare their superior health care systems to
that of the USA.

Bottom line ... the Corvid-19 virus was confirmed in the
USA weeks or in one case at least a month before it
was confirmed in his favorite countries in Europe.

Unfortunately the first cases in Washington State were in a nursing
home where the death rate was staggering but not unusual for a nursing
home. Those people don't expect to come out of there alive in the
first place.


Seeing the charts where most of the cases are in the elderly, does not seem
correct. I think the disease should be more evenly distributed.
Therefore there has to be a lot of undiagnosed cases. They will be mild,
so the younger are thinking it is something else and not getting checked.


Not sure what you mean by 'evenly distributed'. The 106/1M cases could be evenly
distributed, but you'd still not see but a few in states like Wyoming and
Montana. The cases would be clustered in the high population centers.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Should be fairly evenly distributed age wise. Not referring to
geographical area. Maybe even a few more towards the middle years than the
elderly, as they meet more people.


It seems to be staying away from kids, and the young folks get over it readily.
Hell, they may have thought they had a mild flu. It's us old folks taking up the
bed space, I reckon.

The chart here shows a distribution by age for deaths. I'd assume the
distribution by criticality is pretty close.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...-demographics/
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On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 1:35:08 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 07:49:20 -0400, John wrote:

On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:13:09 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:43:13 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:41:49 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 07:39:21 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313

They did have a head start and they do have a higher population
density. New York will be a good test of the population density thing.
Those people in Manhattan have less than 400 square feet each to live
their whole lives. (based on pop density) My garage is bigger than
that.

I think Luddite shot some of that out of the water. We have just as high a
density in our population centers as those countries do.

Not if you take the US as a whole ... by a long shot. I agree the
density of Europe is like the I95 or I5 corridor but as soon as you
turn inward the density falls off fast. Even so except for Norway
Finland and Denmark most of europe is dark orange or red on this map
https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/512popdn.pdf

You are a math whiz. A Sq/mi is ~2.6 sq/km
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_a...pean_countries

I said 'in our population centers'! Jeees.


... and I said the I-95 I-5 corridors so we are on the same page but
most of the country is not there. I agree when this gets loose in the
city it will be a nightmare, particularly when the homeless get it. I
am just not sure how you score those deaths. Was it C-19 or one of the
usual things that kill them ... and do we really care?


We are not all non-caring loonytarians.


What difference does it make?
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/24/20 2:47 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 08:35:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/24/2020 7:49 AM, John wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:13:09 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:43:13 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:41:49 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 07:39:21 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313

They did have a head start and they do have a higher population
density. New York will be a good test of the population density thing.
Those people in Manhattan have less than 400 square feet each to live
their whole lives. (based on pop density) My garage is bigger than
that.

I think Luddite shot some of that out of the water. We have just as high a
density in our population centers as those countries do.

Not if you take the US as a whole ... by a long shot. I agree the
density of Europe is like the I95 or I5 corridor but as soon as you
turn inward the density falls off fast. Even so except for Norway
Finland and Denmark most of europe is dark orange or red on this map
https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/512popdn.pdf

You are a math whiz. A Sq/mi is ~2.6 sq/km
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_a...pean_countries

I said 'in our population centers'! Jeees.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



This thread has become confused. The comment I made earlier had
nothing to do with population density. It had to do with
one of Harry's assertions that the corvid-19 virus established
itself in countries in Europe *before* it was first confirmed
in the USA. He was trying to make the case that *that* is the
reason for their higher death rate per million population.

I presented dates of the first confirmed cases for several
countries including those that Harry routinely
likes to compare their superior health care systems to
that of the USA.

Bottom line ... the Corvid-19 virus was confirmed in the
USA weeks or in one case at least a month before it
was confirmed in his favorite countries in Europe.

Unfortunately the first cases in Washington State were in a nursing
home where the death rate was staggering but not unusual for a nursing
home. Those people don't expect to come out of there alive in the
first place.


Seeing the charts where most of the cases are in the elderly, does not seem
correct. I think the disease should be more evenly distributed.
Therefore there has to be a lot of undiagnosed cases. They will be mild,
so the younger are thinking it is something else and not getting checked.



You are correct...there are lots of undiagnosed cases.



And how do you know this? Now a medical expert?


I was agreeing with you. For the most part, access to the tests has been
restricted to relatively few of those with the severest symptoms and
hardly at all to those with mild symptoms. Ergo, there are a lot of
undiagnosed cases.


There are not enough tests to test more than a small minority. One of the
Area fire department get 360 tests a day. Will test the first 360 in line
I think. Picture shows a thermal scanner, so may see if temperature is
abnormal before actually burning a test kit.

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John wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 18:47:32 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 17:14:58 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 08:35:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/24/2020 7:49 AM, John wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:13:09 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:43:13 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:41:49 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 07:39:21 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313

They did have a head start and they do have a higher population
density. New York will be a good test of the population density thing.
Those people in Manhattan have less than 400 square feet each to live
their whole lives. (based on pop density) My garage is bigger than
that.

I think Luddite shot some of that out of the water. We have just as high a
density in our population centers as those countries do.

Not if you take the US as a whole ... by a long shot. I agree the
density of Europe is like the I95 or I5 corridor but as soon as you
turn inward the density falls off fast. Even so except for Norway
Finland and Denmark most of europe is dark orange or red on this map
https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/512popdn.pdf

You are a math whiz. A Sq/mi is ~2.6 sq/km
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_a...pean_countries

I said 'in our population centers'! Jeees.
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This thread has become confused. The comment I made earlier had
nothing to do with population density. It had to do with
one of Harry's assertions that the corvid-19 virus established
itself in countries in Europe *before* it was first confirmed
in the USA. He was trying to make the case that *that* is the
reason for their higher death rate per million population.

I presented dates of the first confirmed cases for several
countries including those that Harry routinely
likes to compare their superior health care systems to
that of the USA.

Bottom line ... the Corvid-19 virus was confirmed in the
USA weeks or in one case at least a month before it
was confirmed in his favorite countries in Europe.

Unfortunately the first cases in Washington State were in a nursing
home where the death rate was staggering but not unusual for a nursing
home. Those people don't expect to come out of there alive in the
first place.


Seeing the charts where most of the cases are in the elderly, does not seem
correct. I think the disease should be more evenly distributed.
Therefore there has to be a lot of undiagnosed cases. They will be mild,
so the younger are thinking it is something else and not getting checked.

Not sure what you mean by 'evenly distributed'. The 106/1M cases could be evenly
distributed, but you'd still not see but a few in states like Wyoming and
Montana. The cases would be clustered in the high population centers.
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Should be fairly evenly distributed age wise. Not referring to
geographical area. Maybe even a few more towards the middle years than the
elderly, as they meet more people.


It seems to be staying away from kids, and the young folks get over it readily.
Hell, they may have thought they had a mild flu. It's us old folks taking up the
bed space, I reckon.

The chart here shows a distribution by age for deaths. I'd assume the
distribution by criticality is pretty close.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...-demographics/
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That is why I think the virus will run it’s course fairly quickly. Those
with no symptoms and mild case of the virus will spread it to relatives and
close friend. So may not be long before 90% of the population is exposed.
May have, may not have a steep curve of hospital cases or death cases.
Since corona viruses have been in the population a long time from my
reading, we may have some built up immunity.

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On 24 Mar 2020 17:35:06 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 07:49:20 -0400, John wrote:

On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:13:09 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:43:13 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:41:49 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 07:39:21 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313

They did have a head start and they do have a higher population
density. New York will be a good test of the population density thing.
Those people in Manhattan have less than 400 square feet each to live
their whole lives. (based on pop density) My garage is bigger than
that.

I think Luddite shot some of that out of the water. We have just as high a
density in our population centers as those countries do.

Not if you take the US as a whole ... by a long shot. I agree the
density of Europe is like the I95 or I5 corridor but as soon as you
turn inward the density falls off fast. Even so except for Norway
Finland and Denmark most of europe is dark orange or red on this map
https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/512popdn.pdf

You are a math whiz. A Sq/mi is ~2.6 sq/km
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_a...pean_countries

I said 'in our population centers'! Jeees.


... and I said the I-95 I-5 corridors so we are on the same page but
most of the country is not there. I agree when this gets loose in the
city it will be a nightmare, particularly when the homeless get it. I
am just not sure how you score those deaths. Was it C-19 or one of the
usual things that kill them ... and do we really care?


We are not all non-caring loonytarians.


Do I care as much about drug addicted bums, ****ting behind dumpsters
and harassing tax payers, with a life expectancy of around 50, in good
times, as I do productive citizens?
Hell no.
Like I said, how would we score their deaths? Covid or simply the
result of their chosen lifestyle? If it wasn't this, the drugs, COPD,
perhaps a murder by another bum, was going to get them soon anyway.


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