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Wonderful to watch...
....Trump shoveling his usual bull**** and Nancy Pelosi calling him out
and shutting him down. from the WashPost: Donald Trump, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer berated each other on camera Tuesday over Trump’s border wall, an Oval Office spectacle that underscored the distance between the two sides as they confront a fast-approaching deadline for a partial government shutdown. The stunning public spat, during which Schumer accused the president of throwing a “temper tantrum,” ended with Trump declaring he’d be proud to shut down the government to get the money he wants for his long-promised U.S.-Mexico border wall. If the president follows through on the threat, about 25 percent of the federal government would begin to run out of money on Dec. 21, putting hundreds of thousands of federal workers at risk of getting furloughed without pay just before Christmas. The two sides remain billions apart on border security — the president is demanding $5 billion for a wall, and Democrats will offer no more than $1.3 billion for fencing — and Tuesday’s talks brought them no closer to a resolution. The three leaders pointed fingers, raised their voices and interrupted one another repeatedly as they fought over policy and politics, laying bare their differences for all to see. Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Schumer (D-N.Y.) had not expected the session to be televised and repeatedly asked Trump to take the discussions off-camera. But the president allowed the acrimonious encounter to continue for nearly 20 minutes before kicking the media out of the Oval Office. As the argument dragged on, Schumer lectured Trump that “Elections have consequences, Mr. President.” heh heh heh... Gee, Trump said about 100 times that "Mexico would pay for" his wall. Too funny. |
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On 12/12/2018 7:15 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
...Trump shoveling his usual bull**** and Nancy Pelosi calling him out and shutting him down. from the WashPost: Donald Trump, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer berated each other on camera Tuesday over Trump’s border wall, an Oval Office spectacle that underscored the distance between the two sides as they confront a fast-approaching deadline for a partial government shutdown. The stunning public spat, during which Schumer accused the president of throwing a “temper tantrum,” ended with Trump declaring he’d be proud to shut down the government to get the money he wants for his long-promised U.S.-Mexico border wall. If the president follows through on the threat, about 25 percent of the federal government would begin to run out of money on Dec. 21, putting hundreds of thousands of federal workers at risk of getting furloughed without pay just before Christmas. The two sides remain billions apart on border security — the president is demanding $5 billion for a wall, and Democrats will offer no more than $1.3 billion for fencing — and Tuesday’s talks brought them no closer to a resolution. The three leaders pointed fingers, raised their voices and interrupted one another repeatedly as they fought over policy and politics, laying bare their differences for all to see. Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Schumer (D-N.Y.) had not expected the session to be televised and repeatedly asked Trump to take the discussions off-camera. But the president allowed the acrimonious encounter to continue for nearly 20 minutes before kicking the media out of the Oval Office. As the argument dragged on, Schumer lectured Trump that “Elections have consequences, Mr. President.” heh heh heh... Gee, Trump said about 100 times that "Mexico would pay for" his wall. Too funny. Nancy Pelosi shut him down? Ha ha! It's entertaining to watch how the left interprets such things. Pelosi and Schumer didn't "shut Trump down". Just the opposite. Trump exposed both of them as being the secretive, "we know better than anyone" Democrats who didn't want the press and public to know what was being discussed. Very typical. Reminds one of "you have to pass it to see what's in it". Trump isn't typical. He's a "in your face New Yorker" and it's refreshing to see him make the secretive lefties squirm a bit. Pelosi and Schumer agree that better border control is necessary yet when the lights on the cameras are turned off they both support sanctuary cities in their home states. They also both voted for building a wall previously but have changed their tune when Trump was elected instead of their favorite, Hillary. If I were Trump at that meeting I would have encouraged either of them (but especially Schumer) that if they/he think they have a better solution they should run for POTUS in 2020 and wrestle with the problem. They won't of course. It would expose them again as being the hypocrites that they are. Their only objective is to oppose *anything* Trump wants to do and to hell with what is in the best interests of the country. |
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On 12/12/18 7:35 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/12/2018 7:15 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: ...Trump shoveling his usual bull**** and Nancy Pelosi calling him out and shutting him down. from the WashPost: Donald Trump, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer berated each other on camera Tuesday over Trump’s border wall, an Oval Office spectacle that underscored the distance between the two sides as they confront a fast-approaching deadline for a partial government shutdown. The stunning public spat, during which Schumer accused the president of throwing a “temper tantrum,” ended with Trump declaring he’d be proud to shut down the government to get the money he wants for his long-promised U.S.-Mexico border wall. If the president follows through on the threat, about 25 percent of the federal government would begin to run out of money on Dec. 21, putting hundreds of thousands of federal workers at risk of getting furloughed without pay just before Christmas. The two sides remain billions apart on border security — the president is demanding $5 billion for a wall, and Democrats will offer no more than $1.3 billion for fencing — and Tuesday’s talks brought them no closer to a resolution. The three leaders pointed fingers, raised their voices and interrupted one another repeatedly as they fought over policy and politics, laying bare their differences for all to see. Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Schumer (D-N.Y.) had not expected the session to be televised and repeatedly asked Trump to take the discussions off-camera. But the president allowed the acrimonious encounter to continue for nearly 20 minutes before kicking the media out of the Oval Office. As the argument dragged on, Schumer lectured Trump that “Elections have consequences, Mr. President.” heh heh heh... Gee, Trump said about 100 times that "Mexico would pay for" his wall. Too funny. If I were Trump at that meeting I would have encouraged either of them (but especially Schumer)* that if they/he think they have a better solution they should run for POTUS in 2020 and wrestle with the problem. They won't of course.* It would expose them again as being the hypocrites that they are.* Their only objective is to oppose *anything* Trump wants to do and to hell with what is in the best interests of the country. No one wants Trump's wall, except for Trump. No one wants a government shutdown, except for Trump. And Mexico ain't paying for Trump's wall. |
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“Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Schumer (D-N.Y.) had not expected the session to
be televised and repeatedly asked Trump to take the discussions off-camera. But the president allowed the acrimonious encounter to continue for nearly 20 minutes before kicking the media out of the Oval Office. ...” They’re evidently used to closed door and back room deals and can’t handle the wide open spaces.. nothing wrong with having the discussion out in the open. |
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On 12/12/18 7:48 AM, Tim wrote:
“Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Schumer (D-N.Y.) had not expected the session to be televised and repeatedly asked Trump to take the discussions off-camera. But the president allowed the acrimonious encounter to continue for nearly 20 minutes before kicking the media out of the Oval Office. ...” They’re evidently used to closed door and back room deals and can’t handle the wide open spaces.. nothing wrong with having the discussion out in the open. It was wonderful to watch Donald Bluster make a fool out of himself, over and over. So, when is MEXICO going to pay for Trump's wall? |
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On 12/12/2018 7:39 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/12/18 7:35 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/12/2018 7:15 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: ...Trump shoveling his usual bull**** and Nancy Pelosi calling him out and shutting him down. from the WashPost: Donald Trump, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer berated each other on camera Tuesday over Trump’s border wall, an Oval Office spectacle that underscored the distance between the two sides as they confront a fast-approaching deadline for a partial government shutdown. The stunning public spat, during which Schumer accused the president of throwing a “temper tantrum,” ended with Trump declaring he’d be proud to shut down the government to get the money he wants for his long-promised U.S.-Mexico border wall. If the president follows through on the threat, about 25 percent of the federal government would begin to run out of money on Dec. 21, putting hundreds of thousands of federal workers at risk of getting furloughed without pay just before Christmas. The two sides remain billions apart on border security — the president is demanding $5 billion for a wall, and Democrats will offer no more than $1.3 billion for fencing — and Tuesday’s talks brought them no closer to a resolution. The three leaders pointed fingers, raised their voices and interrupted one another repeatedly as they fought over policy and politics, laying bare their differences for all to see. Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Schumer (D-N.Y.) had not expected the session to be televised and repeatedly asked Trump to take the discussions off-camera. But the president allowed the acrimonious encounter to continue for nearly 20 minutes before kicking the media out of the Oval Office. As the argument dragged on, Schumer lectured Trump that “Elections have consequences, Mr. President.” heh heh heh... Gee, Trump said about 100 times that "Mexico would pay for" his wall. Too funny. If I were Trump at that meeting I would have encouraged either of them (but especially Schumer)* that if they/he think they have a better solution they should run for POTUS in 2020 and wrestle with the problem. They won't of course.* It would expose them again as being the hypocrites that they are.* Their only objective is to oppose *anything* Trump wants to do and to hell with what is in the best interests of the country. No one wants Trump's wall, except for Trump. No one wants a government shutdown, except for Trump. And Mexico ain't paying for Trump's wall. The $5 billion Trump is currently requesting for a wall represents one tenth of 1 percent of the overall budget. Big f'in deal. The Dems aren't on record of opposing that expenditure to improve border security. They voted *for* it before. The issue isn't "want" or "money". The issue is the opposition to anything Trump. Many politicians are dishonest, despicable, elitists who put their party and power before the best interests of the people they are supposed to be representing. All of this is nothing but political horse****. |
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On 12/12/2018 7:48 AM, Tim wrote:
“Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Schumer (D-N.Y.) had not expected the session to be televised and repeatedly asked Trump to take the discussions off-camera. But the president allowed the acrimonious encounter to continue for nearly 20 minutes before kicking the media out of the Oval Office. ...” They’re evidently used to closed door and back room deals and can’t handle the wide open spaces.. nothing wrong with having the discussion out in the open. Yup. Pelosi and Schumer were in panic mode. Kept looking over nervously at the live TV cameras while begging Trump to "go private". No! I think Trump did the right thing. Talk about it in the open so every citizen who is interested can see for themselves what these airheads are saying. After the meeting both Pelosi and Schumer went back to their canned, lefty spin of course when talking to the press. |
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On 12/12/18 8:06 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/12/2018 7:39 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/12/18 7:35 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/12/2018 7:15 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: ...Trump shoveling his usual bull**** and Nancy Pelosi calling him out and shutting him down. from the WashPost: Donald Trump, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer berated each other on camera Tuesday over Trump’s border wall, an Oval Office spectacle that underscored the distance between the two sides as they confront a fast-approaching deadline for a partial government shutdown. The stunning public spat, during which Schumer accused the president of throwing a “temper tantrum,” ended with Trump declaring he’d be proud to shut down the government to get the money he wants for his long-promised U.S.-Mexico border wall. If the president follows through on the threat, about 25 percent of the federal government would begin to run out of money on Dec. 21, putting hundreds of thousands of federal workers at risk of getting furloughed without pay just before Christmas. The two sides remain billions apart on border security — the president is demanding $5 billion for a wall, and Democrats will offer no more than $1.3 billion for fencing — and Tuesday’s talks brought them no closer to a resolution. The three leaders pointed fingers, raised their voices and interrupted one another repeatedly as they fought over policy and politics, laying bare their differences for all to see. Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Schumer (D-N.Y.) had not expected the session to be televised and repeatedly asked Trump to take the discussions off-camera. But the president allowed the acrimonious encounter to continue for nearly 20 minutes before kicking the media out of the Oval Office. As the argument dragged on, Schumer lectured Trump that “Elections have consequences, Mr. President.” heh heh heh... Gee, Trump said about 100 times that "Mexico would pay for" his wall. Too funny. If I were Trump at that meeting I would have encouraged either of them (but especially Schumer)* that if they/he think they have a better solution they should run for POTUS in 2020 and wrestle with the problem. They won't of course.* It would expose them again as being the hypocrites that they are.* Their only objective is to oppose *anything* Trump wants to do and to hell with what is in the best interests of the country. No one wants Trump's wall, except for Trump. No one wants a government shutdown, except for Trump. And Mexico ain't paying for Trump's wall. The $5 billion Trump is currently requesting for a wall represents one tenth of 1 percent of the overall budget.* Big f'in deal.* The Dems aren't on record of opposing that expenditure to improve border security.* They voted *for* it before.* The issue isn't "want" or "money".* The issue is the opposition to anything Trump. Many politicians are dishonest, despicable, elitists who put their party and power before the best interests of the people they are supposed to be representing. All of this is nothing but political horse****. "I'm going to be the one to shut it down," Donald Trump on the prospect of shutting down the federal government. He *owns* it if it happens. Too funny. As for Trump's Folly, aka Trump's Wall, Trump promised at least 100 times that "Mexico" would pay for it. Why isn't that happening? Why is the "new" NAFTA deal at least 90% the same as the old NAFTA deal? Where is Trump's "wonderful" replacement for the Affordable Care Act? Oh, and North Korea is still developing WMD's, the Iranians ain't dummies, either, and of course the Russians are still running rampant wherever they want, and China and other countries will be ****ing us over royally in trade wars. But, of course, "everyone" wants to be Trump's new chief of staff. Well, everyone except someone of quality. Gosh...and Mueller is still cooking stew and hasn't opened the pot. |
#9
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On 12/12/2018 7:53 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/12/18 7:48 AM, Tim wrote: “Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Schumer (D-N.Y.) had not expected the session to be televised and repeatedly asked Trump to take the discussions off-camera. But the president allowed the acrimonious encounter to continue for nearly 20 minutes before kicking the media out of the Oval Office. ...” They’re evidently used to closed door and back room* deals and can’t handle the wide open spaces..* nothing wrong with having the discussion out in the open. It was wonderful to watch Donald Bluster make a fool out of himself, over and over. So, when is MEXICO going to pay for Trump's wall? In the grander scheme of things Mexico is already beginning to absorb at least some of the cost of a wall. They are accepting more and more illegals within their country who would otherwise be in the USA getting financial aid and benefits at taxpayer's expense. They are also hardening their own borders to reduce the number of people traveling across Mexico and sneaking into the USA. It's important to remember that something like 65 percent (or more) of these people don't qualify for asylum status but they must be cared for, fed and housed while that determination process is made. It's out of control and $5 billion is a very small price to pay to reduce those who illegally enter and then turn themselves in to be cared for only to be found to be not eligible for asylum status. Forget what Pelosi, Schumer and other lefty politicians say and listen to the border control agents who deal with this issue on a daily basis and *all* agree that walls work. By reducing that financial burden and on ICE operations, those who enter legally at points of entry (which our laws require) are better positioned to receive asylum status. |
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On 12/12/2018 8:18 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/12/18 8:06 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/12/2018 7:39 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/12/18 7:35 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/12/2018 7:15 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: ...Trump shoveling his usual bull**** and Nancy Pelosi calling him out and shutting him down. from the WashPost: Donald Trump, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer berated each other on camera Tuesday over Trump’s border wall, an Oval Office spectacle that underscored the distance between the two sides as they confront a fast-approaching deadline for a partial government shutdown. The stunning public spat, during which Schumer accused the president of throwing a “temper tantrum,” ended with Trump declaring he’d be proud to shut down the government to get the money he wants for his long-promised U.S.-Mexico border wall. If the president follows through on the threat, about 25 percent of the federal government would begin to run out of money on Dec. 21, putting hundreds of thousands of federal workers at risk of getting furloughed without pay just before Christmas. The two sides remain billions apart on border security — the president is demanding $5 billion for a wall, and Democrats will offer no more than $1.3 billion for fencing — and Tuesday’s talks brought them no closer to a resolution. The three leaders pointed fingers, raised their voices and interrupted one another repeatedly as they fought over policy and politics, laying bare their differences for all to see. Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Schumer (D-N.Y.) had not expected the session to be televised and repeatedly asked Trump to take the discussions off-camera. But the president allowed the acrimonious encounter to continue for nearly 20 minutes before kicking the media out of the Oval Office. As the argument dragged on, Schumer lectured Trump that “Elections have consequences, Mr. President.” heh heh heh... Gee, Trump said about 100 times that "Mexico would pay for" his wall. Too funny. If I were Trump at that meeting I would have encouraged either of them (but especially Schumer)* that if they/he think they have a better solution they should run for POTUS in 2020 and wrestle with the problem. They won't of course.* It would expose them again as being the hypocrites that they are.* Their only objective is to oppose *anything* Trump wants to do and to hell with what is in the best interests of the country. No one wants Trump's wall, except for Trump. No one wants a government shutdown, except for Trump. And Mexico ain't paying for Trump's wall. The $5 billion Trump is currently requesting for a wall represents one tenth of 1 percent of the overall budget.* Big f'in deal.* The Dems aren't on record of opposing that expenditure to improve border security.* They voted *for* it before.* The issue isn't "want" or "money".* The issue is the opposition to anything Trump. Many politicians are dishonest, despicable, elitists who put their party and power before the best interests of the people they are supposed to be representing. All of this is nothing but political horse****. "I'm going to be the one to shut it down," Donald Trump on the prospect of shutting down the federal government. He *owns* it if it happens. Too funny. As for Trump's Folly, aka Trump's Wall, Trump promised at least 100 times that "Mexico" would pay for it. Why isn't that happening? Why is the "new" NAFTA deal at least 90% the same as the old NAFTA deal? Where is Trump's "wonderful" replacement for the Affordable Care Act? Oh, and North Korea is still developing WMD's, the Iranians ain't dummies, either, and of course the Russians are still running rampant wherever they want, and China and other countries will be ****ing us over royally in trade wars. But, of course, "everyone" wants to be Trump's new chief of staff. Well, everyone except someone of quality. Gosh...and Mueller is still cooking stew and hasn't opened the pot. I don't expect you to understand. Just tighten up your blinders and carry on. |
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