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Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance from the well" in the
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On 18/07/2010 7:42 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance from the well" in
the Gulf of Mexico, Ret. Adm. Thad Allen says.


If true, not good news. BP better get a pipe on that well and let it
blow out oil to lower the top pressure some. If oil has fractured
around the well head, they will be in a world of grief for years dealing
with this as real disaster.

Lets see how far BP stock drops tomorrow, if this is a real issue, $5
off the top easy.

I hear BP is looking for cleanup workers. All you have to do is make
sure they have a suit your size and you can get a job!
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On 18/07/2010 7:42 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance from the well" in
the Gulf of Mexico, Ret. Adm. Thad Allen says.


If true, not good news. BP better get a pipe on that well and let it blow
out oil to lower the top pressure some. If oil has fractured around the
well head, they will be in a world of grief for years dealing with this as
real disaster.

Lets see how far BP stock drops tomorrow, if this is a real issue, $5 off
the top easy.

I hear BP is looking for cleanup workers. All you have to do is make sure
they have a suit your size and you can get a job!


I guess you think Allen is lying because he represents the gov't. I guess
letting BP do whatever it wants isn't such a great idea. Fortunately, the
GOVERNMENT has so far not agreed to let them leave the seal in place.
Therefore, the oil disaster is Obama's fault.

You're a moron. Even if they let you into this wonderful country, you would
not have the brain power to work on the cleanup. Why? You'd have trouble
figuring out how to put on the suit.


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On 18/07/2010 9:47 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

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On 18/07/2010 7:42 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance from the well" in
the Gulf of Mexico, Ret. Adm. Thad Allen says.


If true, not good news. BP better get a pipe on that well and let it
blow out oil to lower the top pressure some. If oil has fractured
around the well head, they will be in a world of grief for years
dealing with this as real disaster.

Lets see how far BP stock drops tomorrow, if this is a real issue, $5
off the top easy.

I hear BP is looking for cleanup workers. All you have to do is make
sure they have a suit your size and you can get a job!


I guess you think Allen is lying because he represents the gov't. I
guess letting BP do whatever it wants isn't such a great idea.
Fortunately, the GOVERNMENT has so far not agreed to let them leave the
seal in place. Therefore, the oil disaster is Obama's fault.

You're a moron. Even if they let you into this wonderful country, you
would not have the brain power to work on the cleanup. Why? You'd have
trouble figuring out how to put on the suit.


Hint, I used to work in the oilfield on the techncial side up to 1984.
But will admit, it was on shore but a BOP is a BOP more or less. Did
make it once to an offshore rig once in Stavager Norway though.

Unlike Allen, I don't have to clense my views to heir Obama. He is an
admiral, the closest he has been to a real well head is Exxon gas pump
or a on ship drive by in the Gulf..

If it is really a seep/leak, bad news. I stand by it. If memory serves
me, the BOP closed pressure is about 12000 PSI fluid. A little leak
somewhere will become a big one just given time. And a big leak will
keep becoming bigger until it is a full flow that the pressure lets it.
Needs to be fixed or repaired ASAP.

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On 18/07/2010 9:47 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 18/07/2010 7:42 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance from the well"
in
the Gulf of Mexico, Ret. Adm. Thad Allen says.

If true, not good news. BP better get a pipe on that well and let it
blow out oil to lower the top pressure some. If oil has fractured
around the well head, they will be in a world of grief for years
dealing with this as real disaster.

Lets see how far BP stock drops tomorrow, if this is a real issue, $5
off the top easy.

I hear BP is looking for cleanup workers. All you have to do is make
sure they have a suit your size and you can get a job!


I guess you think Allen is lying because he represents the gov't. I
guess letting BP do whatever it wants isn't such a great idea.
Fortunately, the GOVERNMENT has so far not agreed to let them leave the
seal in place. Therefore, the oil disaster is Obama's fault.

You're a moron. Even if they let you into this wonderful country, you
would not have the brain power to work on the cleanup. Why? You'd have
trouble figuring out how to put on the suit.


Hint, I used to work in the oilfield on the techncial side up to 1984. But
will admit, it was on shore but a BOP is a BOP more or less. Did make it
once to an offshore rig once in Stavager Norway though.

Unlike Allen, I don't have to clense my views to heir Obama. He is an
admiral, the closest he has been to a real well head is Exxon gas pump or
a on ship drive by in the Gulf..

If it is really a seep/leak, bad news. I stand by it. If memory serves
me, the BOP closed pressure is about 12000 PSI fluid. A little leak
somewhere will become a big one just given time. And a big leak will keep
becoming bigger until it is a full flow that the pressure lets it. Needs
to be fixed or repaired ASAP.

--

Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?


Unlike Allen, who is actually a hero, you're a loser moron who can't hold
and can't get a job. You're someone who can't even get into the US, and
honestly, we don't want you here. You hate America and you've said as much
more than once.




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Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance from the well" in
the Gulf of Mexico, Ret. Adm. Thad Allen says.

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Seepage of oil through the bedrock is acknowledged to be a naturally
occurring event according to the announcement. With the well currently
closed off, the pressure within the oil reservoir should now be the same as
it was before the well was drilled. The reported seepage is two miles away
from the well. Not to defend BP, but how are they responsible for a
naturally occurring leak? Seems to me that the seepage would occur well or
no well.

The part that is scary is that if true, permanently filling the well with
mud and cement is not going to stop the seepage through the bedrock. Only
thing to do is to allow the oil to be harvested, thereby reducing the
backpressure.



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On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:42:30 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance from the well" in
the
Gulf of Mexico, Ret. Adm. Thad Allen says.


I am not sure why they don't open the valve now that they have a good
cap and produce the oil to the surface. That will take off the
pressure and still be safe/clean. After all that was the point in
drilling the well in the first place.
I think they are pressing their luck trying to top kill this with the
cap. Something that would have been fine at the production pressures
may rupture with it sealed and put us back 2 months.


I agree... not an oil engineer, but it seems to make sense. I think they
just don't want to have to record the flow rate, so the fine is lower. Too
bad for them. I think Allen should force them to do that.


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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance from the well" in
the Gulf of Mexico, Ret. Adm. Thad Allen says.

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Nom=de=Plume



Seepage of oil through the bedrock is acknowledged to be a naturally
occurring event according to the announcement. With the well currently
closed off, the pressure within the oil reservoir should now be the same
as it was before the well was drilled. The reported seepage is two miles
away from the well. Not to defend BP, but how are they responsible for a
naturally occurring leak? Seems to me that the seepage would occur well
or no well.

The part that is scary is that if true, permanently filling the well with
mud and cement is not going to stop the seepage through the bedrock.
Only thing to do is to allow the oil to be harvested, thereby reducing the
backpressure.




I agree that there's no absolute certainty it's from the BP site. In any
case, the only reason I can see that they don't want to open up the cap and
capture the oil at the surface is because they want to limit their
liability.


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On Jul 19, 2:25*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:42:30 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance from the well" in
the
Gulf of Mexico, Ret. Adm. Thad Allen says.


I am not sure why they don't open the valve now that they have a good
cap and produce the oil to the surface. That will take off the
pressure and still be safe/clean. After all that was the point in
drilling the well in the first place.
I think they are pressing their luck trying to top kill this with the
cap. Something that would have been fine at the production pressures
may rupture with it sealed and put us back 2 months.


I agree... not an oil engineer, but it seems to make sense. I think they
just don't want to have to record the flow rate, so the fine is lower. Too
bad for them. I think Allen should force them to do that.


Open pipe flow rate can be determined by calculation if the pressure,
pipe diameter, and a few other factors are known, and they all are at
this point. That does not tell us how much oil has escaped, since
except for a few hours the leak has never been in a free flow mode.

Any measured flow would be through the valves and hoses that would be
connected from the cap to the surface ships, which once again tell us
nothing about the escaped oil, or the fine to be levied. That only
tells us how much flow those connections can accept.

The only thing you are correct about is that you are no "oil
engineer"... or any kind professional that requires critical,
scientific thinking.
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On Jul 19, 2:25 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:42:30 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance from the well"
in
the
Gulf of Mexico, Ret. Adm. Thad Allen says.


I am not sure why they don't open the valve now that they have a good
cap and produce the oil to the surface. That will take off the
pressure and still be safe/clean. After all that was the point in
drilling the well in the first place.
I think they are pressing their luck trying to top kill this with the
cap. Something that would have been fine at the production pressures
may rupture with it sealed and put us back 2 months.


I agree... not an oil engineer, but it seems to make sense. I think they
just don't want to have to record the flow rate, so the fine is lower.
Too
bad for them. I think Allen should force them to do that.


Open pipe flow rate can be determined by calculation if the pressure,
pipe diameter, and a few other factors are known, and they all are at
this point. That does not tell us how much oil has escaped, since
except for a few hours the leak has never been in a free flow mode.

Any measured flow would be through the valves and hoses that would be
connected from the cap to the surface ships, which once again tell us
nothing about the escaped oil, or the fine to be levied. That only
tells us how much flow those connections can accept.

The only thing you are correct about is that you are no "oil
engineer"... or any kind professional that requires critical,
scientific thinking.


In that case, mister moron, how come just about everyone who is an oil
engineer who doesn't work for BP is saying that's the likely reason they
don't want to do that?? Yes, you're a jerk as well as a moron.


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