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On 11/17/2018 9:05 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/17/18 2:23 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/16/2018 11:57 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:14:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Interesting article. Looks promising.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46219656


===

It does sound promising but workable fusion has been anywhere from 5
to 30 years away for a long time.


The Omega project at the Laboratory for Laser Energetics and the NIF
project at Lawrence Livermore National Labs are both pursuing
nuclear fusion among other things.Â* Huge laser bays focusing multiple,
high powered laser beams onto a tiny pellet of deuterium simultaneously
and only for a few microseconds. In the case of the Omega system the
power delivered on the pellet can be as high as 60 terawatts.Â* The
larger NIF laser can deliver 500 terawatts.Â* The instantaneous
temperature of the plasma created can be many times the temperature of
the sun but it still requires more energy "in" than it produces "out".
The NIF laser has achieved about one third the power required for a
laser induced nuclear fusion reaction.

I am certainly not one to judge but based on my limited knowledge of
this research, we are still a long, long ways to having viable nuclear
fusion reactors for home or local power generation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Ignition_Facility




Gosh, so I probably won't be able to buy a new toyota with a nuclear
fusion engine in my lifetime? Darn!



Upon re-reading the Wiki article on the NIF program it appears that
they gave up trying to create laser induced nuclear fusion. Just
wasn't feasible and after years of attempts they couldn't come close.

Doesn't mean another method may come along but it still requires an
enormous amount of energy.

So, the 190 beam NIF laser is now used for it's intended use, the
development and testing of nuclear weapons under conditions that do not
violate the nuclear arms testing treaty.

Should make your day. :-)


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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/17/2018 9:05 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/17/18 2:23 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/16/2018 11:57 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:14:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Interesting article. Looks promising.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46219656


===

It does sound promising but workable fusion has been anywhere from 5
to 30 years away for a long time.


The Omega project at the Laboratory for Laser Energetics and the NIF
project at Lawrence Livermore National Labs are both pursuing
nuclear fusion among other things.Â* Huge laser bays focusing multiple,
high powered laser beams onto a tiny pellet of deuterium simultaneously
and only for a few microseconds. In the case of the Omega system the
power delivered on the pellet can be as high as 60 terawatts.Â* The
larger NIF laser can deliver 500 terawatts.Â* The instantaneous
temperature of the plasma created can be many times the temperature of
the sun but it still requires more energy "in" than it produces "out".
The NIF laser has achieved about one third the power required for a
laser induced nuclear fusion reaction.

I am certainly not one to judge but based on my limited knowledge of
this research, we are still a long, long ways to having viable nuclear
fusion reactors for home or local power generation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Ignition_Facility




Gosh, so I probably won't be able to buy a new toyota with a nuclear
fusion engine in my lifetime? Darn!



Upon re-reading the Wiki article on the NIF program it appears that
they gave up trying to create laser induced nuclear fusion. Just
wasn't feasible and after years of attempts they couldn't come close.

Doesn't mean another method may come along but it still requires an
enormous amount of energy.

So, the 190 beam NIF laser is now used for it's intended use, the
development and testing of nuclear weapons under conditions that do not
violate the nuclear arms testing treaty.

Should make your day. :-)




I’ve got my eye on a slightly used deLorean.

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On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 10:03:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/17/2018 9:05 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/17/18 2:23 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/16/2018 11:57 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:14:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Interesting article. Looks promising.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46219656


===

It does sound promising but workable fusion has been anywhere from 5
to 30 years away for a long time.


The Omega project at the Laboratory for Laser Energetics and the NIF
project at Lawrence Livermore National Labs are both pursuing
nuclear fusion among other things.Â* Huge laser bays focusing multiple,
high powered laser beams onto a tiny pellet of deuterium simultaneously
and only for a few microseconds. In the case of the Omega system the
power delivered on the pellet can be as high as 60 terawatts.Â* The
larger NIF laser can deliver 500 terawatts.Â* The instantaneous
temperature of the plasma created can be many times the temperature of
the sun but it still requires more energy "in" than it produces "out".
The NIF laser has achieved about one third the power required for a
laser induced nuclear fusion reaction.

I am certainly not one to judge but based on my limited knowledge of
this research, we are still a long, long ways to having viable nuclear
fusion reactors for home or local power generation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Ignition_Facility




Gosh, so I probably won't be able to buy a new toyota with a nuclear
fusion engine in my lifetime? Darn!



Upon re-reading the Wiki article on the NIF program it appears that
they gave up trying to create laser induced nuclear fusion. Just
wasn't feasible and after years of attempts they couldn't come close.

Doesn't mean another method may come along but it still requires an
enormous amount of energy.

So, the 190 beam NIF laser is now used for it's intended use, the
development and testing of nuclear weapons under conditions that do not
violate the nuclear arms testing treaty.

Should make your day. :-)




I’ve got my eye on a slightly used deLorean.


As soon as they get that flux capacitor perfected you will have
something.
In the mean time, look in the glove compartment, your rebate may be in
there.
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 10:03:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/17/2018 9:05 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/17/18 2:23 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/16/2018 11:57 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:14:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Interesting article. Looks promising.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46219656



I’ve got my eye on a slightly used deLorean.



I'd be careful. OEM Flux Capacitors aren't made anymore
and the cheap imitations made in China may get you there
but leave you stranded in the future or the past.



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On 11/17/18 1:47 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 10:03:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/17/2018 9:05 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/17/18 2:23 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/16/2018 11:57 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:14:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Interesting article. Looks promising.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46219656



I’ve got my eye on a slightly used deLorean.



I'd be careful.Â*Â* OEM Flux Capacitors aren't made anymore
and the cheap imitations made in China may get you there
but leave you stranded in the future or the past.




On the up side, you could go back with me to Amity and I could fix you
up with one of the Woodbridge/Orange/Cheshire babes I knew back then...



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On 11/17/2018 1:51 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/17/18 1:47 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 10:03:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/17/2018 9:05 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/17/18 2:23 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/16/2018 11:57 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:14:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Interesting article. Looks promising.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46219656



I’ve got my eye on a slightly used deLorean.


I'd be careful.Â*Â* OEM Flux Capacitors aren't made anymore
and the cheap imitations made in China may get you there
but leave you stranded in the future or the past.




On the up side, you could go back with me to Amity and I could fix you
up with one of the Woodbridge/Orange/Cheshire babes I knew back then...



Methinks Mrs.E. would disapprove of that idea.
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Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/17/2018 9:05 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/17/18 2:23 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/16/2018 11:57 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:14:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Interesting article. Looks promising.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46219656

===

It does sound promising but workable fusion has been anywhere from 5
to 30 years away for a long time.

The Omega project at the Laboratory for Laser Energetics and the NIF
project at Lawrence Livermore National Labs are both pursuing
nuclear fusion among other things. Huge laser bays focusing multiple,
high powered laser beams onto a tiny pellet of deuterium simultaneously
and only for a few microseconds. In the case of the Omega system the
power delivered on the pellet can be as high as 60 terawatts. The
larger NIF laser can deliver 500 terawatts. The instantaneous
temperature of the plasma created can be many times the temperature of
the sun but it still requires more energy "in" than it produces "out".
The NIF laser has achieved about one third the power required for a
laser induced nuclear fusion reaction.

I am certainly not one to judge but based on my limited knowledge of
this research, we are still a long, long ways to having viable nuclear
fusion reactors for home or local power generation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Ignition_Facility



Gosh, so I probably won't be able to buy a new toyota with a nuclear
fusion engine in my lifetime? Darn!


Upon re-reading the Wiki article on the NIF program it appears that
they gave up trying to create laser induced nuclear fusion. Just
wasn't feasible and after years of attempts they couldn't come close.

Doesn't mean another method may come along but it still requires an
enormous amount of energy.

So, the 190 beam NIF laser is now used for it's intended use, the
development and testing of nuclear weapons under conditions that do not
violate the nuclear arms testing treaty.

Should make your day. :-)



I’ve got my eye on a slightly used deLorean.


Just say you bought one. Just like your other lies.
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On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 10:13:03 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/17/2018 9:05 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/17/18 2:23 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/16/2018 11:57 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:14:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Interesting article. Looks promising.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46219656

===

It does sound promising but workable fusion has been anywhere from 5
to 30 years away for a long time.

The Omega project at the Laboratory for Laser Energetics and the NIF
project at Lawrence Livermore National Labs are both pursuing
nuclear fusion among other things. Huge laser bays focusing multiple,
high powered laser beams onto a tiny pellet of deuterium simultaneously
and only for a few microseconds. In the case of the Omega system the
power delivered on the pellet can be as high as 60 terawatts. The
larger NIF laser can deliver 500 terawatts. The instantaneous
temperature of the plasma created can be many times the temperature of
the sun but it still requires more energy "in" than it produces "out".
The NIF laser has achieved about one third the power required for a
laser induced nuclear fusion reaction.

I am certainly not one to judge but based on my limited knowledge of
this research, we are still a long, long ways to having viable nuclear
fusion reactors for home or local power generation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Ignition_Facility



Gosh, so I probably won't be able to buy a new toyota with a nuclear
fusion engine in my lifetime? Darn!


Upon re-reading the Wiki article on the NIF program it appears that
they gave up trying to create laser induced nuclear fusion. Just
wasn't feasible and after years of attempts they couldn't come close.

Doesn't mean another method may come along but it still requires an
enormous amount of energy.

So, the 190 beam NIF laser is now used for it's intended use, the
development and testing of nuclear weapons under conditions that do not
violate the nuclear arms testing treaty.

Should make your day. :-)



I’ve got my eye on a slightly used deLorean.


Just say you bought one. Just like your other lies.


You know he has one. He arrived to NY in it with a firetruck welcome.
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 22:12:55 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/17/2018 9:05 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/17/18 2:23 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/16/2018 11:57 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:14:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Interesting article. Looks promising.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46219656

===

It does sound promising but workable fusion has been anywhere from 5
to 30 years away for a long time.

The Omega project at the Laboratory for Laser Energetics and the NIF
project at Lawrence Livermore National Labs are both pursuing
nuclear fusion among other things. Huge laser bays focusing multiple,
high powered laser beams onto a tiny pellet of deuterium simultaneously
and only for a few microseconds. In the case of the Omega system the
power delivered on the pellet can be as high as 60 terawatts. The
larger NIF laser can deliver 500 terawatts. The instantaneous
temperature of the plasma created can be many times the temperature of
the sun but it still requires more energy "in" than it produces "out".
The NIF laser has achieved about one third the power required for a
laser induced nuclear fusion reaction.

I am certainly not one to judge but based on my limited knowledge of
this research, we are still a long, long ways to having viable nuclear
fusion reactors for home or local power generation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Ignition_Facility



Gosh, so I probably won't be able to buy a new toyota with a nuclear
fusion engine in my lifetime? Darn!


Upon re-reading the Wiki article on the NIF program it appears that
they gave up trying to create laser induced nuclear fusion. Just
wasn't feasible and after years of attempts they couldn't come close.

Doesn't mean another method may come along but it still requires an
enormous amount of energy.

So, the 190 beam NIF laser is now used for it's intended use, the
development and testing of nuclear weapons under conditions that do not
violate the nuclear arms testing treaty.

Should make your day. :-)



I’ve got my eye on a slightly used deLorean.


Just say you bought one. Just like your other lies.


He's already got the quarter-mile driveway and Maryland-red barn in which to store it! Hope his two
owls don't poop all over it.
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