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On 10/22/18 7:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/22/2018 5:59 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 17:29:21 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 07:00:38 -0400, John H. wrote: Interesting. Haven't checked all the facts yet. http://funkyimg.com/i/2MdxT.jpg (Mainly a test of my new image display link - thanks to Luddite.) === Unfortunately I believe the assertion with that picture is total BS. It's my understanding that a typical wind mill produces the same electrical power as a 2,000 horsepower diesel generator that would burn approximately 100 gallons of diesel fuel per hour, 2400 gallons per day.Â* Thats 876,000 gallons per year,Â* enough diesel fuel to fill a mile of railroad tanker cars - way more than would be needed to produce the steel in the windmill. Some of the fake news floating around about wind power is just astounding and makes me wonder who is behind it and why.Â* I suppose the usual suspects would be the petro industry. Haven't checked those facts either. I watched an interview with Dr. Patrick Michaels last night on Mark Levin's Sunday evening show, "Life, Liberty and Levin". Michaels is a highly qualifiedÂ* climatologist with academic and professional experience that would even impress Harry. Mark Levin is a well-known crackpot conspirationalist and Michaels is a paid hack for the fossil fuel industry and the Cato Institute, which, by the way, is a libertarian front for the right-wing Koch brothers. One would not expect any of them to be supportive of the prevailing facts and theories on climate change and its causes. Some 98% of climate scientists believe that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities, in particular emissions of the greenhouse gases carbon dioxide and methane. |
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On 10/22/2018 8:13 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/22/18 7:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/22/2018 5:59 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 17:29:21 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 07:00:38 -0400, John H. wrote: Interesting. Haven't checked all the facts yet. http://funkyimg.com/i/2MdxT.jpg (Mainly a test of my new image display link - thanks to Luddite.) === Unfortunately I believe the assertion with that picture is total BS. It's my understanding that a typical wind mill produces the same electrical power as a 2,000 horsepower diesel generator that would burn approximately 100 gallons of diesel fuel per hour, 2400 gallons per day.Â* Thats 876,000 gallons per year,Â* enough diesel fuel to fill a mile of railroad tanker cars - way more than would be needed to produce the steel in the windmill. Some of the fake news floating around about wind power is just astounding and makes me wonder who is behind it and why.Â* I suppose the usual suspects would be the petro industry. Haven't checked those facts either. I watched an interview with Dr. Patrick Michaels last night on Mark Levin's Sunday evening show, "Life, Liberty and Levin". Michaels is a highly qualifiedÂ* climatologist with academic and professional experience that would even impress Harry. Mark Levin is a well-known crackpot conspirationalist and Michaels is a paid hack for the fossil fuel industry and the Cato Institute, which, by the way, is a libertarian front for the right-wing Koch brothers. One would not expect any of them to be supportive of the prevailing facts and theories on climate change and its causes. Some 98% of climate scientists believe that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities, in particular emissions of the greenhouse gases carbon dioxide and methane. I didn't expect anything less from you Harry. Try to ignore your political brainwashing for a moment and consider what he said. |
#3
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On 10/22/2018 8:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/22/2018 8:13 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/22/18 7:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/22/2018 5:59 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 17:29:21 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 07:00:38 -0400, John H. wrote: Interesting. Haven't checked all the facts yet. http://funkyimg.com/i/2MdxT.jpg (Mainly a test of my new image display link - thanks to Luddite.) === Unfortunately I believe the assertion with that picture is total BS. It's my understanding that a typical wind mill produces the same electrical power as a 2,000 horsepower diesel generator that would burn approximately 100 gallons of diesel fuel per hour, 2400 gallons per day.Â* Thats 876,000 gallons per year,Â* enough diesel fuel to fill a mile of railroad tanker cars - way more than would be needed to produce the steel in the windmill. Some of the fake news floating around about wind power is just astounding and makes me wonder who is behind it and why.Â* I suppose the usual suspects would be the petro industry. Haven't checked those facts either. I watched an interview with Dr. Patrick Michaels last night on Mark Levin's Sunday evening show, "Life, Liberty and Levin". Michaels is a highly qualifiedÂ* climatologist with academic and professional experience that would even impress Harry. Mark Levin is a well-known crackpot conspirationalist and Michaels is a paid hack for the fossil fuel industry and the Cato Institute, which, by the way, is a libertarian front for the right-wing Koch brothers. One would not expect any of them to be supportive of the prevailing facts and theories on climate change and its causes. Some 98% of climate scientists believe that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities, in particular emissions of the greenhouse gases carbon dioxide and methane. I didn't expect anything less from you Harry.Â* Try to ignore your political brainwashing for a moment and consider what he said. Carbon dioxide is a natural fertilizer and it's increase in the atmosphere is improving new growth, especially in areas that have been over-harvested. New growth uses carbon dioxide and releases O2 to replace it. Naturally occurring cycle that is beneficial to planet Earth. There's another reason it causes what is referred to as the "Greenhouse effect". You ignore the financial reasons many scientists support the government's line. They'd be out of a job if they didn't. |
#4
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On 10/22/18 8:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/22/2018 8:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/22/2018 8:13 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/22/18 7:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/22/2018 5:59 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 17:29:21 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 07:00:38 -0400, John H. wrote: Interesting. Haven't checked all the facts yet. http://funkyimg.com/i/2MdxT.jpg (Mainly a test of my new image display link - thanks to Luddite.) === Unfortunately I believe the assertion with that picture is total BS. It's my understanding that a typical wind mill produces the same electrical power as a 2,000 horsepower diesel generator that would burn approximately 100 gallons of diesel fuel per hour, 2400 gallons per day.Â* Thats 876,000 gallons per year,Â* enough diesel fuel to fill a mile of railroad tanker cars - way more than would be needed to produce the steel in the windmill. Some of the fake news floating around about wind power is just astounding and makes me wonder who is behind it and why.Â* I suppose the usual suspects would be the petro industry. Haven't checked those facts either. I watched an interview with Dr. Patrick Michaels last night on Mark Levin's Sunday evening show, "Life, Liberty and Levin". Michaels is a highly qualifiedÂ* climatologist with academic and professional experience that would even impress Harry. Mark Levin is a well-known crackpot conspirationalist and Michaels is a paid hack for the fossil fuel industry and the Cato Institute, which, by the way, is a libertarian front for the right-wing Koch brothers. One would not expect any of them to be supportive of the prevailing facts and theories on climate change and its causes. Some 98% of climate scientists believe that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities, in particular emissions of the greenhouse gases carbon dioxide and methane. I didn't expect anything less from you Harry.Â* Try to ignore your political brainwashing for a moment and consider what he said. Carbon dioxide is a natural fertilizer and it's increase in the atmosphere is improving new growth, especially in areas that have been over-harvested.Â* New growth uses carbon dioxide and releases O2 to replace it.Â* Naturally occurring cycle that is beneficial to planet Earth.Â* There's another reason it causes what is referred to as the "Greenhouse effect". You ignore the financial reasons many scientists support the government's line.Â* They'd be out of a job if they didn't. You ignore the reasons why Michaels supports the fossil fuel company propaganda. He'd be contract-less without them. And you admit you watch Mark Levin. Sheesh. |
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On 10/22/2018 8:48 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/22/18 8:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/22/2018 8:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/22/2018 8:13 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/22/18 7:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/22/2018 5:59 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 17:29:21 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 07:00:38 -0400, John H. wrote: Interesting. Haven't checked all the facts yet. http://funkyimg.com/i/2MdxT.jpg (Mainly a test of my new image display link - thanks to Luddite.) === Unfortunately I believe the assertion with that picture is total BS. It's my understanding that a typical wind mill produces the same electrical power as a 2,000 horsepower diesel generator that would burn approximately 100 gallons of diesel fuel per hour, 2400 gallons per day.Â* Thats 876,000 gallons per year,Â* enough diesel fuel to fill a mile of railroad tanker cars - way more than would be needed to produce the steel in the windmill. Some of the fake news floating around about wind power is just astounding and makes me wonder who is behind it and why.Â* I suppose the usual suspects would be the petro industry. Haven't checked those facts either. I watched an interview with Dr. Patrick Michaels last night on Mark Levin's Sunday evening show, "Life, Liberty and Levin". Michaels is a highly qualifiedÂ* climatologist with academic and professional experience that would even impress Harry. Mark Levin is a well-known crackpot conspirationalist and Michaels is a paid hack for the fossil fuel industry and the Cato Institute, which, by the way, is a libertarian front for the right-wing Koch brothers. One would not expect any of them to be supportive of the prevailing facts and theories on climate change and its causes. Some 98% of climate scientists believe that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities, in particular emissions of the greenhouse gases carbon dioxide and methane. I didn't expect anything less from you Harry.Â* Try to ignore your political brainwashing for a moment and consider what he said. Carbon dioxide is a natural fertilizer and it's increase in the atmosphere is improving new growth, especially in areas that have been over-harvested.Â* New growth uses carbon dioxide and releases O2 to replace it.Â* Naturally occurring cycle that is beneficial to planet Earth.Â* There's another reason it causes what is referred to as the "Greenhouse effect". You ignore the financial reasons many scientists support the government's line.Â* They'd be out of a job if they didn't. You ignore theÂ* reasonsÂ* why Michaels supports the fossil fuel company propaganda. He'd be contract-less without them. And you admit you watch Mark Levin. Sheesh. I've seen Levin occasionally on weekends when watching TV in bed with the sleep timer on. I am not afraid of listening to many points of view on various subjects because I've never been brainwashed by a particular political agenda as you obviously have. I am a registered Independent. The only thing that has caused me to become more supportive of Republican candidates has been the conduct and actions of lock-step Democrats who have offered absolutely nothing in terms of addressing this country's problems and issues but rather have focused on anti-Trump, anti-Republican acquisitions and personal attacks. We've never seen anything like this before. I have little respect for the actions of your party. Sorry. |
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 08:32:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 10/22/2018 8:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/22/2018 8:13 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/22/18 7:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/22/2018 5:59 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 17:29:21 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 07:00:38 -0400, John H. wrote: Interesting. Haven't checked all the facts yet. http://funkyimg.com/i/2MdxT.jpg (Mainly a test of my new image display link - thanks to Luddite.) === Unfortunately I believe the assertion with that picture is total BS. It's my understanding that a typical wind mill produces the same electrical power as a 2,000 horsepower diesel generator that would burn approximately 100 gallons of diesel fuel per hour, 2400 gallons per day.Â* Thats 876,000 gallons per year,Â* enough diesel fuel to fill a mile of railroad tanker cars - way more than would be needed to produce the steel in the windmill. Some of the fake news floating around about wind power is just astounding and makes me wonder who is behind it and why.Â* I suppose the usual suspects would be the petro industry. Haven't checked those facts either. I watched an interview with Dr. Patrick Michaels last night on Mark Levin's Sunday evening show, "Life, Liberty and Levin". Michaels is a highly qualifiedÂ* climatologist with academic and professional experience that would even impress Harry. Mark Levin is a well-known crackpot conspirationalist and Michaels is a paid hack for the fossil fuel industry and the Cato Institute, which, by the way, is a libertarian front for the right-wing Koch brothers. One would not expect any of them to be supportive of the prevailing facts and theories on climate change and its causes. Some 98% of climate scientists believe that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities, in particular emissions of the greenhouse gases carbon dioxide and methane. I didn't expect anything less from you Harry.Â* Try to ignore your political brainwashing for a moment and consider what he said. Carbon dioxide is a natural fertilizer and it's increase in the atmosphere is improving new growth, especially in areas that have been over-harvested. New growth uses carbon dioxide and releases O2 to replace it. Naturally occurring cycle that is beneficial to planet Earth. There's another reason it causes what is referred to as the "Greenhouse effect". You ignore the financial reasons many scientists support the government's line. They'd be out of a job if they didn't. I believe man is increasing CO2 levels but most of it seems to track the rise of agriculture. (at least for 8000 years since we have had real agriculture). We are replacing natural forests and grasslands that act as CO2 sinks all year long with farms that harvest the plants just about the time they really start sinking CO2. Then there are the issues with livestock (aka cow farts) We might make a dent in this CO2 stuff if we can just return world population to what it was in the 18th century when the left thinks the climate was perfect and let all of that farm land go back to weeds and trees. Who wants to go first? |
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On 10/22/18 8:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/22/2018 8:13 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/22/18 7:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/22/2018 5:59 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 17:29:21 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 07:00:38 -0400, John H. wrote: Interesting. Haven't checked all the facts yet. http://funkyimg.com/i/2MdxT.jpg (Mainly a test of my new image display link - thanks to Luddite.) === Unfortunately I believe the assertion with that picture is total BS. It's my understanding that a typical wind mill produces the same electrical power as a 2,000 horsepower diesel generator that would burn approximately 100 gallons of diesel fuel per hour, 2400 gallons per day.Â* Thats 876,000 gallons per year,Â* enough diesel fuel to fill a mile of railroad tanker cars - way more than would be needed to produce the steel in the windmill. Some of the fake news floating around about wind power is just astounding and makes me wonder who is behind it and why.Â* I suppose the usual suspects would be the petro industry. Haven't checked those facts either. I watched an interview with Dr. Patrick Michaels last night on Mark Levin's Sunday evening show, "Life, Liberty and Levin". Michaels is a highly qualifiedÂ* climatologist with academic and professional experience that would even impress Harry. Mark Levin is a well-known crackpot conspirationalist and Michaels is a paid hack for the fossil fuel industry and the Cato Institute, which, by the way, is a libertarian front for the right-wing Koch brothers. One would not expect any of them to be supportive of the prevailing facts and theories on climate change and its causes. Some 98% of climate scientists believe that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities, in particular emissions of the greenhouse gases carbon dioxide and methane. I didn't expect anything less from you Harry.Â* Try to ignore your political brainwashing for a moment and consider what he said. He's a paid hack, in the employ, as it were, of the fossil fuel industry. That's what he said, even if he didn't say it it directly. |
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On 10/22/2018 8:46 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/22/18 8:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/22/2018 8:13 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/22/18 7:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/22/2018 5:59 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 17:29:21 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 07:00:38 -0400, John H. wrote: Interesting. Haven't checked all the facts yet. http://funkyimg.com/i/2MdxT.jpg (Mainly a test of my new image display link - thanks to Luddite.) === Unfortunately I believe the assertion with that picture is total BS. It's my understanding that a typical wind mill produces the same electrical power as a 2,000 horsepower diesel generator that would burn approximately 100 gallons of diesel fuel per hour, 2400 gallons per day.Â* Thats 876,000 gallons per year,Â* enough diesel fuel to fill a mile of railroad tanker cars - way more than would be needed to produce the steel in the windmill. Some of the fake news floating around about wind power is just astounding and makes me wonder who is behind it and why.Â* I suppose the usual suspects would be the petro industry. Haven't checked those facts either. I watched an interview with Dr. Patrick Michaels last night on Mark Levin's Sunday evening show, "Life, Liberty and Levin". Michaels is a highly qualifiedÂ* climatologist with academic and professional experience that would even impress Harry. Mark Levin is a well-known crackpot conspirationalist and Michaels is a paid hack for the fossil fuel industry and the Cato Institute, which, by the way, is a libertarian front for the right-wing Koch brothers. One would not expect any of them to be supportive of the prevailing facts and theories on climate change and its causes. Some 98% of climate scientists believe that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities, in particular emissions of the greenhouse gases carbon dioxide and methane. I didn't expect anything less from you Harry.Â* Try to ignore your political brainwashing for a moment and consider what he said. He's a paid hack, in the employ, as it were, of the fossil fuel industry. That's what he said, even if he didn'tÂ* say it it directly. If so, he makes more sense than the liberal paid hacks that receive government funding for their livelihood. |
#9
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/22/18 8:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/22/2018 8:13 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/22/18 7:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/22/2018 5:59 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 17:29:21 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 07:00:38 -0400, John H. wrote: Interesting. Haven't checked all the facts yet. http://funkyimg.com/i/2MdxT.jpg (Mainly a test of my new image display link - thanks to Luddite.) === Unfortunately I believe the assertion with that picture is total BS. It's my understanding that a typical wind mill produces the same electrical power as a 2,000 horsepower diesel generator that would burn approximately 100 gallons of diesel fuel per hour, 2400 gallons per day.Â* Thats 876,000 gallons per year,Â* enough diesel fuel to fill a mile of railroad tanker cars - way more than would be needed to produce the steel in the windmill. Some of the fake news floating around about wind power is just astounding and makes me wonder who is behind it and why.Â* I suppose the usual suspects would be the petro industry. Haven't checked those facts either. I watched an interview with Dr. Patrick Michaels last night on Mark Levin's Sunday evening show, "Life, Liberty and Levin". Michaels is a highly qualifiedÂ* climatologist with academic and professional experience that would even impress Harry. Mark Levin is a well-known crackpot conspirationalist and Michaels is a paid hack for the fossil fuel industry and the Cato Institute, which, by the way, is a libertarian front for the right-wing Koch brothers. One would not expect any of them to be supportive of the prevailing facts and theories on climate change and its causes. Some 98% of climate scientists believe that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities, in particular emissions of the greenhouse gases carbon dioxide and methane. I didn't expect anything less from you Harry.Â* Try to ignore your political brainwashing for a moment and consider what he said. He's a paid hack, in the employ, as it were, of the fossil fuel industry. That's what he said, even if he didn't say it it directly. So the other “ climatologists “ are not in the employ of a biased money funding group? |
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On 10/22/18 11:59 AM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/22/18 8:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/22/2018 8:13 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/22/18 7:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/22/2018 5:59 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 17:29:21 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 07:00:38 -0400, John H. wrote: Interesting. Haven't checked all the facts yet. http://funkyimg.com/i/2MdxT.jpg (Mainly a test of my new image display link - thanks to Luddite.) === Unfortunately I believe the assertion with that picture is total BS. It's my understanding that a typical wind mill produces the same electrical power as a 2,000 horsepower diesel generator that would burn approximately 100 gallons of diesel fuel per hour, 2400 gallons per day.Â* Thats 876,000 gallons per year,Â* enough diesel fuel to fill a mile of railroad tanker cars - way more than would be needed to produce the steel in the windmill. Some of the fake news floating around about wind power is just astounding and makes me wonder who is behind it and why.Â* I suppose the usual suspects would be the petro industry. Haven't checked those facts either. I watched an interview with Dr. Patrick Michaels last night on Mark Levin's Sunday evening show, "Life, Liberty and Levin". Michaels is a highly qualifiedÂ* climatologist with academic and professional experience that would even impress Harry. Mark Levin is a well-known crackpot conspirationalist and Michaels is a paid hack for the fossil fuel industry and the Cato Institute, which, by the way, is a libertarian front for the right-wing Koch brothers. One would not expect any of them to be supportive of the prevailing facts and theories on climate change and its causes. Some 98% of climate scientists believe that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities, in particular emissions of the greenhouse gases carbon dioxide and methane. I didn't expect anything less from you Harry.Â* Try to ignore your political brainwashing for a moment and consider what he said. He's a paid hack, in the employ, as it were, of the fossil fuel industry. That's what he said, even if he didn't say it it directly. So the other “ climatologists “ are not in the employ of a biased money funding group? About 98% of scientists are on the side in opposition to the beliefs of Michaels, and most of them wouldn't appear on a show hosted by the crackpot Mark Levin. |
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