From CNN of all places
 

On 4/9/18 9:59 AM, Tim wrote:

| Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.

...........

John this one really cracks me up. Since before 1967 while taking away religious freedom and/or anything from the populace, Maos communistic rule still makes slaves of the Chinese people even unto this day.



How is that different than rampant corporatism, which does pretty much
the same all over the world?

From CNN of all places
 

On 4/9/2018 10:50 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 8:30 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/9/2018 7:52 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 1:02 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 21:53:00 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/8/18 8:11 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 7:57 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 18:04:36 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 4/8/18 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers are
going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill
christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their
religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in your
life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the
power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a unique
form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to
bother you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the
religious do
in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt. When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the
government,
then that is where they exceed what they should be allowed to do.

You push your atheism on everyone, more aggressively than the worst
evangelist.
Just the fact that you denigrate people's deeply held beliefs
incessantly, demonstrates you are not a live and let live
person. This
is a crusade with you and you are trying to rid the world of
religion.
That IS a religion in and of itself or certainly a belief system.


Too funny. I have never asked or demanded that anyone believe as
I do on
this subject. All I would like is for the religious to stop
forcing their
beliefs onto society on government.



Bull****.



Have I ever knocked on your door and asked you if you found
non-religion? (And for Fretwell, I don't mean literally).

People knock on my door, bombard my TV shows or send me mail asking me
about all sorts of things I don't believe in but that is their right.
It is my right to ignore them.
Would you deny the right of people to talk about their religion but
allow them to tell me about why I should accept their other strange
deviancies.



I don't care if people "talk" about their religion so long as they
don't try to force their religious beliefs on me or my country or in
legislation.


I know this is a waste of time but then why do you insist on posting
your regular anti-religion tirades here and mocking those who happen
to have faith in something?

You're a hypocrite.


Why do the religious post religious tirades here? Because they can.
First amendment, after all. Got it?


Oh, I get it ok. You're a hypocrite.

From CNN of all places
 

On 4/9/18 10:35 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 05:37:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

| Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.

So Mao wasn't religious either. Maybe that's why all these guys slaughtered millions. because of their paranoid atheist beliefs.

===

Or lack of any other moral compass.


They were imitating the Crusaders?

From CNN of all places
 

True North Wrote in message:
John H

- show quoted text -

"I wonder where your main supporter, Donnee, has been during this whole discussion? Not once did I
see his famous, "I agree wholeheartedly with this post!"

Maybe he actually believes in the 'guy in the sky' so won't agree with you but doesn't have the
balls to disagree."



Hey, JohnnyMop. Why are y'all trying to drag me into your squabbles with Harry? Tired of him bitch slapping you from pillar to post?
You won't fare any better with me.


Ahhh, so you are an athiest now too. That's the thanks the nuns
get for trying to educate you and instill in you the values that
make youth into productive and useful members of society.
Instead, you drank the union kool-ade and became a janitor with
the usual union protection.
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 10:52:07 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/9/18 9:59 AM, Tim wrote:

| Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.

...........

John this one really cracks me up. Since before 1967 while taking away religious freedom and/or anything from the populace, Maos communistic rule still makes slaves of the Chinese people even unto this day.



How is that different than rampant corporatism, which does pretty much
the same all over the world?


===

Ahh the evil corporations of the world, the ones that risk their own
money to create products for consumers, jobs for their employees, and
value for their stockholders. How awful. I guess no one told them
that "the government" was supposed to do all that.

'Airree, you are a legend in your own mind, and a joke to everyone
else.

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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/9/18 8:37 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 7:03:57 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 7:42 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:29:31 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 19:12:36 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 6:43 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 6:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 6:04 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers are going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in your life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a unique form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to bother you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the religious
do in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt. When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the
government, then that is where they exceed what they should be
allowed to do.


You're full of explanations and excuses but the bottom line is:

You're an atheist.




Do you think that is some sort of insult?

No. Just the facts jack.




No worries...atheists, unlike christians, don?t murder people who have
different or no religious beliefs.

What religion was Hitler famous for?

And Stalin. And Mao.



In Mein Kampf and in speeches, Hitler said he was a christian. In his
later years, he denounced religious beliefs.

OK, so was he, and did he act like a 'Christian' or not? BTW, he, dabbled in the occult a lot.


Stalin was raised in a religious household.

Ha. "raised" in a religious household, but made religion a crime against thee state. So, was he a christian or not?

| Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.

So Mao wasn't religious either. Maybe that's why all these guys slaughtered millions. because of their paranoid atheist beliefs.


Why did christians throughout history engage in their slaughters?
Paranoid religious beliefs?


Is hatefullness, bigotry, shameless lying, thievery, and a sense
of entitlement, the foundation of your belief system? It sure
seems so.
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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/9/18 8:30 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/9/2018 7:52 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 1:02 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 21:53:00 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/8/18 8:11 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 7:57 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 18:04:36 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 4/8/18 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers are
going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill
christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their
religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in your
life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the
power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a unique
form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to bother
you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the
religious do
in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt. When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the
government,
then that is where they exceed what they should be allowed to do.

You push your atheism on everyone, more aggressively than the worst
evangelist.
Just the fact that you denigrate people's deeply held beliefs
incessantly, demonstrates you are not a live and let live person.
This
is a crusade with you and you are trying to rid the world of
religion.
That IS a religion in and of itself or certainly a belief system.


Too funny. I have never asked or demanded that anyone believe as I
do on
this subject. All I would like is for the religious to stop
forcing their
beliefs onto society on government.



Bull****.



Have I ever knocked on your door and asked you if you found
non-religion? (And for Fretwell, I don't mean literally).

People knock on my door, bombard my TV shows or send me mail asking me
about all sorts of things I don't believe in but that is their right.
It is my right to ignore them.
Would you deny the right of people to talk about their religion but
allow them to tell me about why I should accept their other strange
deviancies.



I don't care if people "talk" about their religion so long as they
don't try to force their religious beliefs on me or my country or in
legislation.


I know this is a waste of time but then why do you insist on posting
your regular anti-religion tirades here and mocking those who happen to
have faith in something?

You're a hypocrite.


Why do the religious post religious tirades here? Because they can.
First amendment, after all. Got it?


Religious tirades? Man, you've got some wires crossed somewhere in
that Fat Head of yours.
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 10:51:20 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/9/18 8:37 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 7:03:57 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 7:42 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:29:31 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 19:12:36 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 6:43 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 6:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 6:04 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers are going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in your life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a unique form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to bother you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the religious
do in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt. When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the
government, then that is where they exceed what they should be
allowed to do.


You're full of explanations and excuses but the bottom line is:

You're an atheist.




Do you think that is some sort of insult?

No. Just the facts jack.




No worries...atheists, unlike christians, don’t murder people who have
different or no religious beliefs.

What religion was Hitler famous for?

And Stalin. And Mao.



In Mein Kampf and in speeches, Hitler said he was a christian. In his
later years, he denounced religious beliefs.

OK, so was he, and did he act like a 'Christian' or not? BTW, he, dabbled in the occult a lot.


Stalin was raised in a religious household.

Ha. "raised" in a religious household, but made religion a crime against thee state. So, was he a christian or not?

| Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.

So Mao wasn't religious either. Maybe that's why all these guys slaughtered millions. because of their paranoid atheist beliefs.


Why did christians throughout history engage in their slaughters?
Paranoid religious beliefs?


===

It's important to put some of that in historical context. My
recollection, possibly faulty, is that islamic regions were
threatening to take over all of Europe and almost succeeded. That
makes it less of a religious dispute and more of a territorial culture
clash. Feel free to set the record straight.

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On 4/9/18 10:52 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/9/2018 10:50 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 8:30 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/9/2018 7:52 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 1:02 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 21:53:00 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/8/18 8:11 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 7:57 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 18:04:36 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 4/8/18 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers are
going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill
christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their
religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in
your life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the
power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a unique
form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to
bother you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the
religious do
in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt. When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the
government,
then that is where they exceed what they should be allowed to do.

You push your atheism on everyone, more aggressively than the
worst
evangelist.
Just the fact that you denigrate people's deeply held beliefs
incessantly, demonstrates you are not a live and let live
person. This
is a crusade with you and you are trying to rid the world of
religion.
That IS a religion in and of itself or certainly a belief system.


Too funny. I have never asked or demanded that anyone believe as
I do on
this subject. All I would like is for the religious to stop
forcing their
beliefs onto society on government.



Bull****.



Have I ever knocked on your door and asked you if you found
non-religion? (And for Fretwell, I don't mean literally).

People knock on my door, bombard my TV shows or send me mail asking me
about all sorts of things I don't believe in but that is their right.
It is my right to ignore them.
Would you deny the right of people to talk about their religion but
allow them to tell me about why I should accept their other strange
deviancies.



I don't care if people "talk" about their religion so long as they
don't try to force their religious beliefs on me or my country or in
legislation.


I know this is a waste of time but then why do you insist on posting
your regular anti-religion tirades here and mocking those who happen
to have faith in something?

You're a hypocrite.


Why do the religious post religious tirades here? Because they can.
First amendment, after all. Got it?


Oh, I get it ok.Â* You're a hypocrite.




I have no objection to the superstitious expressing their religious
beliefs publicly, but I do object when they push those beliefs onto
rules, regulations, laws others who believe differently must follow, or
when they use public property to promote those views.

It's perfectly ok for a church or a homeowner or the owner of a private
business on private property to put up a monument of the 10 commandments
on the front lawn, or a creche, or a statue of jesus, et cetera. It's
NOT ok for those religious symbols to be put up in a public park, a
courthouse, a public school, a publicly owned civic center, because
doing that promotes religion.

A few years ago, a local church started putting up a month before
elections a display of several hundred little crosses along with an
anti-abortion sign. It owns the property on which the display is
erected. I called the minister to point out that not all the fetuses
that are aborted are of christian families. He agreed, so the next year
there were some little stars of david and little crescent moons and
stars, to include jewish and moslem fetuses. Makes me smile when I see
the display each year, because it is a legally proper display of the
first amendment, and it is inclusive. :)

From CNN of all places
 

On 4/9/18 10:58 AM, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
John H

- show quoted text -

"I wonder where your main supporter, Donnee, has been during this whole discussion? Not once did I
see his famous, "I agree wholeheartedly with this post!"

Maybe he actually believes in the 'guy in the sky' so won't agree with you but doesn't have the
balls to disagree."



Hey, JohnnyMop. Why are y'all trying to drag me into your squabbles with Harry? Tired of him bitch slapping you from pillar to post?
You won't fare any better with me.


Ahhh, so you are an athiest now too. That's the thanks the nuns
get for trying to educate you and instill in you the values that
make youth into productive and useful members of society.
Instead, you drank the union kool-ade and became a janitor with
the usual union protection.



This from a guy who went into the naveeee? Too funny.