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John H.[_5_] April 9th 18 05:14 PM

From CNN of all places
 
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 10:58:19 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

True North Wrote in message:
John H

- show quoted text -

"I wonder where your main supporter, Donnee, has been during this whole discussion? Not once did I
see his famous, "I agree wholeheartedly with this post!"

Maybe he actually believes in the 'guy in the sky' so won't agree with you but doesn't have the
balls to disagree."



Hey, JohnnyMop. Why are y'all trying to drag me into your squabbles with Harry? Tired of him bitch slapping you from pillar to post?
You won't fare any better with me.


Ahhh, so you are an athiest now too. That's the thanks the nuns
get for trying to educate you and instill in you the values that
make youth into productive and useful members of society.
Instead, you drank the union kool-ade and became a janitor with
the usual union protection.


Ah, so Donnee's become an atheist. I suppose that explains his apparent lack of balls to address
Harry's denigration of his 'faith'.

John H.[_5_] April 9th 18 05:18 PM

From CNN of all places
 
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 12:01:06 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/9/18 11:29 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 4/8/2018 9:53 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 8:11 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 7:57 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 18:04:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/8/18 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers are
going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their
religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in your
life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a unique form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to bother
you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the
religious do
in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt. When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the
government,
then that is where they exceed what they should be allowed to do.

You push your atheism on everyone, more aggressively than the worst
evangelist.
Just the fact that you denigrate people's deeply held beliefs
incessantly, demonstrates you are not a live and let live person. This
is a crusade with you and you are trying to rid the world of religion.
That IS a religion in and of itself or certainly a belief system.


Too funny. I have never asked or demanded that anyone believe as I do on
this subject. All I would like is for the religious to stop forcing
their
beliefs onto society on government.



Bull****.



Have I ever knocked on your door and asked you if you found
non-religion? (And for Fretwell, I don't mean literally).

Harry, you post anti-religion rants here on almost a daily basis
and mock those who have a belief or faith. You are pro-active
in your quest to keep religion out of your life, probably because
it scares you.




Harry is so ****ed at his wife for her religious beliefs he has to
vent somewhere. And it's not likely that he will bite the hand
thst feeds him. So, when he explodes, he does it
here.

Sorry, **** for brains, but my wife's beliefs do not include organized
religion. Oh, and my annual income is just a few thousand lower than hers,
now that I have cut back to three major active accounts. That means that
separately, we each earn more annually than you ever did.

--
Posted with my iPad Pro


The facts don't bear out your claim.

1 You were bankrupt TWICE

2 Your ****ty little ranch style bungalo in Jacksonville was
forclosed, prompting your wife to get a job in DC and seek
secondary income in Dunkirk

3 You had judgements against you for tax delinquencies in Florida
and Federally.

4 You ****ed away a substantial inheritance.

5 You have been caught lying about virtually everything you
dreamed up in an effort to impress us.

6 You write like a child, leading us to question your scholastic CV.

7 Your wife is protestant and she isn't afraid to admit it. Are
you stepping on her right to free religious epression?

8 You are a fat, ugly, asshole who probably smells bad. Hense the
aroma you are constantly complaining about.

:-) MAN, THAT FELT GOOD :-)



Too funny. Really.

*Never* owned a house in Jax. Never had the medical problems you keep
bringing up, either. Did have cataract surgery and carpal tunnel
surgery.

Twenty years ago, wife was retained as a consultant to help an
organization in DC draw up specifications for some new personnel, and
she so impressed the execs, they offered her a job they hadn't even
considered. She just celebrated her 20th year with that organization. At
the time she was recruited, she was employed as chief mental health
therapist at a major hospital in Florida.

That's what sometimes happens to educated, experienced, quality
people...they get offered terrific jobs...something you and no one else
in your family have ever experienced.

The only thing I "inherited" was a boat store building that was
demolished and, with two partners, rebuilt as a strip mall. My share is
still in the family. Oh, I also inherited a bunch of hand tools. The
bulk of my dad's estate went to my mom, and, at her death, the remainder
was bequeathed to a couple of her favorite charities.

You couldn't differentiate good writing from bad, as you are barely
literate.

My wife's family religion was protestant, but she doesn't follow any
religion. In the past two decades, I think she's been in a church three
times...two funerals and the wedding of our nephew.


Like I say, Donnee most likely believes all of that.

[email protected] April 9th 18 06:14 PM

From CNN of all places
 
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 11:19:25 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

Most of what we commonly refer to as the Crusades involved Europeans
campaigning in the eastern Med area to take back the Holy Land from the
Muslims.


The only difference is you support the european crusaders now.

Mr. Luddite[_4_] April 9th 18 06:33 PM

From CNN of all places
 
On 4/9/2018 10:51 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 8:37 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 7:03:57 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 7:42 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:29:31 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 19:12:36 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 6:43 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 6:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 6:04 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers
are going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill
christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their
religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in
your life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the
power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a unique
form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to
bother you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the
religious
do in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt.
When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the
government, then that is where they exceed what they should be
allowed to do.


You're full of explanations and excuses but the bottom line is:

You're an atheist.




Do you think that is some sort of insult?

No.Â* Just the facts jack.




No worries...atheists, unlike christians, don’t murder people who
have
different or no religious beliefs.

What religion was Hitler famous for?

And Stalin. And Mao.



In Mein Kampf and in speeches, Hitler said he was a christian. In his
later years, he denounced religious beliefs.


OK, so was he, and did he act like a 'Christian' or not?Â* BTW, he,
dabbled in the occult a lot.


Stalin was raised in a religious household.


Ha. "raised" in a religious household, but made religion a crime
against thee state. So, was he a christian or not?

| Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.


So Mao wasn't religious either. Maybe that's why all these guys
slaughtered millions. because of their paranoid atheist beliefs.


Why did christians throughout history engage in their slaughters?
Paranoid religious beliefs?



Harry, at one time we burned women suspected of being witches and
barbers performed bloodletting to cure diseases. Doesn't happen
now-a-days. Christians are also no longer noted for "slaughter".
In fact, the Christians I know advocate peace among man/womenkind
(PC correct, just for your benefit).

Time for you to get with the times, methinks.




Mr. Luddite[_4_] April 9th 18 06:35 PM

From CNN of all places
 
On 4/9/2018 11:19 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 11:13 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 10:51:20 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/9/18 8:37 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 7:03:57 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 7:42 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:29:31 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 19:12:36 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 6:43 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 6:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 6:04 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 2:28 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers
are going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill
christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their
religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in
your life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your
dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the
power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a
unique form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to
bother you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the
religious
do in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt.
When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the
government, then that is where they exceed what they should be
allowed to do.


You're full of explanations and excuses but the bottom line is:

You're an atheist.




Do you think that is some sort of insult?

No.Â* Just the facts jack.




No worries...atheists, unlike christians, don’t murder people
who have
different or no religious beliefs.

What religion was Hitler famous for?

And Stalin. And Mao.



In Mein Kampf and in speeches, Hitler said he was a christian. In his
later years, he denounced religious beliefs.

OK, so was he, and did he act like a 'Christian' or not?Â* BTW, he,
dabbled in the occult a lot.


Stalin was raised in a religious household.

Ha. "raised" in a religious household, but made religion a crime
against thee state. So, was he a christian or not?

| Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.

So Mao wasn't religious either. Maybe that's why all these guys
slaughtered millions. because of their paranoid atheist beliefs.


Why did christians throughout history engage in their slaughters?
Paranoid religious beliefs?


===

It's important to put some of that in historical context.Â* My
recollection, possibly faulty, is that islamic regions were
threatening to take over all of Europe and almost succeeded.Â* That
makes it less of a religious dispute and more of a territorial culture
clash.Â* Feel free to set the record straight.

---



Most of what we commonly refer to as the Crusades involved Europeans
campaigning in the eastern Med area to take back the Holy Land from the
Muslims.



What century do you live in? It's 2018 if you haven't noticed.



Mr. Luddite[_4_] April 9th 18 06:36 PM

From CNN of all places
 
On 4/9/2018 10:52 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 9:59 AM, Tim wrote:

| Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.


...........

John this one really cracks me up.Â* Since before 1967 while taking
away religious freedom and/orÂ* anything from the populace, Maos
communistic rule still makes slaves of the Chinese people even unto
this day.





How is that different than rampant corporatism, which does pretty much
the same all over the world?


I am beginning to understand your dilemma.

There's no safe place for you on the planet.




Mr. Luddite[_4_] April 9th 18 06:41 PM

From CNN of all places
 

On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 10:52:37 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/9/18 10:35 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 05:37:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

| Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.

So Mao wasn't religious either. Maybe that's why all these guys slaughtered millions. because of their paranoid atheist beliefs.

===

Or lack of any other moral compass.



They were imitating the Crusaders?



Last Crusader I saw looked like this:

https://tinyurl.com/y9rq7vyu

Bill[_12_] April 9th 18 07:32 PM

From CNN of all places
 
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 10:35 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 05:37:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

| Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.

So Mao wasn't religious either. Maybe that's why all these guys
slaughtered millions. because of their paranoid atheist beliefs.


===

Or lack of any other moral compass.


They were imitating the Crusaders?



Both sides were bad. Hell, Mohammedans were knocking on Paris when the
Crusades got started.


Bill[_12_] April 9th 18 07:46 PM

From CNN of all places
 
Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 10:35 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 05:37:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

| Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.

So Mao wasn't religious either. Maybe that's why all these guys
slaughtered millions. because of their paranoid atheist beliefs.

===

Or lack of any other moral compass.


They were imitating the Crusaders?



Both sides were bad. Hell, Mohammedans were knocking on Paris when the
Crusades got started.



Richard, I thought this was the Crusader you were going to mention.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C3hHQvkUhJo



John H.[_5_] April 9th 18 07:47 PM

From CNN of all places
 
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 13:41:03 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 10:52:37 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/9/18 10:35 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 05:37:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

| Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.

So Mao wasn't religious either. Maybe that's why all these guys slaughtered millions. because of their paranoid atheist beliefs.

===

Or lack of any other moral compass.



They were imitating the Crusaders?



Last Crusader I saw looked like this:

https://tinyurl.com/y9rq7vyu


LOL!


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