From CNN of all places
 

9:52 AMKeyser Soze
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How is that different than rampant corporatism, which does pretty much
the same all over the world?


................


Shifting the subject, I see...

From CNN of all places
 

On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 10:52:07 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/9/18 9:59 AM, Tim wrote:

| Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.

...........

John this one really cracks me up. Since before 1967 while taking away religious freedom and/or anything from the populace, Maos communistic rule still makes slaves of the Chinese people even unto this day.



How is that different than rampant corporatism, which does pretty much
the same all over the world?

The subject is religion, but I can see Tim's got you backed in a corner. Same MO, eh Krause? Change
the subject.

From CNN of all places
 

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 11:36 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers are going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in your life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a unique form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to bother you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the religious do
in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt. When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the government,
then that is where they exceed what they should be allowed to do.


Which superstition? One like do unto others as you would want to be done
to you? Thou shelt not steal? Thou shall pay back their debts?


Heh heh heh. Do you know what superstition is, Bilious? Your post makes
any rational observer think..."No, he doesn't."


You are the one saying religious ideas are superstition. So which of
those “superstition “ do you support or deny?

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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 11:36 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 4:34 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 7:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/7/2018 11:41 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/7/18 10:29 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 21:06:07 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/7/18 5:06 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 17:45:44 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/6/18 4:57 PM, Tim wrote:
“Lawmakers praise Trump for Russia sanctions�

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/06/polit...use/index.html



Delicious!


I suppose it is a start, but I'm not sure what putting
"sanctions" on a
bunch of Russian oligarchs is supposed to accomplish. We'd have a
lot
more impact on Russia by severely limiting U.S. investment in
Russia,
encouraging U.S. companies with investments in Russia to broker
them off
to corporations in other countries, to more severely limit
exports of
any sort of high technology to Russia, and to sharply cut back on
the
number of Russian diplomats allowed back into the United States.


Al Gore Sr. would have been penniless if not for Russian
investments.Â* Then
where would Al Jr. be?

Al Jr has his own scam going selling carbon credits on trees he
actually has no way to protect. It is not that much different than the
scams the TV preachers have. They prey on the faithful in the church
of environmentalism.


Oh...you differentiate between TV preachers and other preachers.
How...accommodating of you.

The brick and mortar churches are a major source of charitable work.
That is just part of your denial.




Some of them do decent charitable work, but they are still selling the
same religious bull****.

Brought to your local newsgroup by Harry, a card carrying member
of the American Association for the Advancement of Atheism

I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers are going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.


By definition you are not agnostic.


Really? Is that what the voices in your head tell you?


Nope. You do not believe in any higher powers than the DNC. They do not
count. Makes you an atheist.



I see. *You* believe in that invisible guy in the sky, eh?


I believe there is something. Not necessarily Jesus, etc. but just look
out on growing fields and figure the odds of that happening on it’s own.

From CNN of all places
 

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 1:02 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 21:53:00 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/8/18 8:11 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 7:57 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 18:04:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/8/18 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers are
going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in your life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a unique form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to bother you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the
religious do
in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt. When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the government,
then that is where they exceed what they should be allowed to do.

You push your atheism on everyone, more aggressively than the worst
evangelist.
Just the fact that you denigrate people's deeply held beliefs
incessantly, demonstrates you are not a live and let live person. This
is a crusade with you and you are trying to rid the world of religion.
That IS a religion in and of itself or certainly a belief system.


Too funny. I have never asked or demanded that anyone believe as I do on
this subject. All I would like is for the religious to stop forcing their
beliefs onto society on government.



Bull****.



Have I ever knocked on your door and asked you if you found
non-religion? (And for Fretwell, I don't mean literally).

People knock on my door, bombard my TV shows or send me mail asking me
about all sorts of things I don't believe in but that is their right.
It is my right to ignore them.
Would you deny the right of people to talk about their religion but
allow them to tell me about why I should accept their other strange
deviancies.



I don't care if people "talk" about their religion so long as they don't
try to force their religious beliefs on me or my country or in legislation.


Then why should we allow those with beliefs not supported by those s to
have a public bully pulpit on government property. Teaching homosexuality
is normal in a public school. Where is the proof that is normal? Climate
change is all man caused. Supported by tax dollars. Seems as if the
government is prevented from supporting a state religion as well as not
preventing the exercise of religion. You want to prevent the talk.

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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 5:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 9:53 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 8:11 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 7:57 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 18:04:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/8/18 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers are
going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their
religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in your
life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a unique
form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to bother
you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the
religious do
in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt. When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the
government,
then that is where they exceed what they should be allowed to do.

You push your atheism on everyone, more aggressively than the worst
evangelist.
Just the fact that you denigrate people's deeply held beliefs
incessantly, demonstrates you are not a live and let live person. This
is a crusade with you and you are trying to rid the world of religion.
That IS a religion in and of itself or certainly a belief system.


Too funny. I have never asked or demanded that anyone believe as I
do on
this subject. All I would like is for the religious to stop forcing
their
beliefs onto society on government.



Bull****.



Have I ever knocked on your door and asked you if you found
non-religion? (And for Fretwell, I don't mean literally).

Harry, you post anti-religion rants here on almost a daily basis
and mock those who have a belief or faith.Â* You are pro-active
in your quest to keep religion out of your life, probably because
it scares you.



Religion certainly is scary...millions of people have died in the name
of "my religion is the right one, and yours is the wrong one."


So have millions died in the name of my type of government is better. No
religion involved.

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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 08:03:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/9/18 7:42 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:29:31 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 19:12:36 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 6:43 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 6:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 6:04 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers are going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in your life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a unique form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to bother you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the religious
do in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt. When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the
government, then that is where they exceed what they should be
allowed to do.


You're full of explanations and excuses but the bottom line is:

You're an atheist.




Do you think that is some sort of insult?

No. Just the facts jack.




No worries...atheists, unlike christians, donÂ’t murder people who have
different or no religious beliefs.

What religion was Hitler famous for?

And Stalin. And Mao.



In Mein Kampf and in speeches, Hitler said he was a christian. In his
later years, he denounced religious beliefs. Well, there have been
plenty of horrific leaders over the years who were religious. European
history is rife with them.

Stalin was raised in a religious household. Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.


What was he when he was slaughtering Jews, Krause?


Actually only 50% were Jews. It killed a lot of Catholic and Gypsies.

From CNN of all places
 

On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 10:52:37 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/9/18 10:35 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 05:37:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

| Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.

So Mao wasn't religious either. Maybe that's why all these guys slaughtered millions. because of their paranoid atheist beliefs.

===

Or lack of any other moral compass.


They were imitating the Crusaders?

Regardless who they may or may not have been imitating. They were and are atheists, who commit no
evil in your mind.

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On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 11:29:35 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 4/8/2018 9:53 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 8:11 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 7:57 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 18:04:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/8/18 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers are
going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their
religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in your
life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a unique form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to bother
you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the
religious do
in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt. When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the
government,
then that is where they exceed what they should be allowed to do.

You push your atheism on everyone, more aggressively than the worst
evangelist.
Just the fact that you denigrate people's deeply held beliefs
incessantly, demonstrates you are not a live and let live person. This
is a crusade with you and you are trying to rid the world of religion.
That IS a religion in and of itself or certainly a belief system.


Too funny. I have never asked or demanded that anyone believe as I do on
this subject. All I would like is for the religious to stop forcing
their
beliefs onto society on government.



Bull****.



Have I ever knocked on your door and asked you if you found
non-religion? (And for Fretwell, I don't mean literally).

Harry, you post anti-religion rants here on almost a daily basis
and mock those who have a belief or faith. You are pro-active
in your quest to keep religion out of your life, probably because
it scares you.




Harry is so ****ed at his wife for her religious beliefs he has to
vent somewhere. And it's not likely that he will bite the hand
thst feeds him. So, when he explodes, he does it
here.

Sorry, **** for brains, but my wife's beliefs do not include organized
religion. Oh, and my annual income is just a few thousand lower than hers,
now that I have cut back to three major active accounts. That means that
separately, we each earn more annually than you ever did.

--
Posted with my iPad Pro


The facts don't bear out your claim.

1 You were bankrupt TWICE

2 Your ****ty little ranch style bungalo in Jacksonville was
forclosed, prompting your wife to get a job in DC and seek
secondary income in Dunkirk

3 You had judgements against you for tax delinquencies in Florida
and Federally.

4 You ****ed away a substantial inheritance.

5 You have been caught lying about virtually everything you
dreamed up in an effort to impress us.

6 You write like a child, leading us to question your scholastic CV.

7 Your wife is protestant and she isn't afraid to admit it. Are
you stepping on her right to free religious epression?

8 You are a fat, ugly, asshole who probably smells bad. Hense the
aroma you are constantly complaining about.

:-) MAN, THAT FELT GOOD :-)

LOL! And true also!

From CNN of all places
 

On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 11:13:34 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/9/18 10:52 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/9/2018 10:50 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 8:30 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/9/2018 7:52 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 1:02 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 21:53:00 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/8/18 8:11 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 7:57 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 18:04:36 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 4/8/18 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers are
going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill
christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their
religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in
your life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the
power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a unique
form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to
bother you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the
religious do
in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt. When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the
government,
then that is where they exceed what they should be allowed to do.

You push your atheism on everyone, more aggressively than the
worst
evangelist.
Just the fact that you denigrate people's deeply held beliefs
incessantly, demonstrates you are not a live and let live
person. This
is a crusade with you and you are trying to rid the world of
religion.
That IS a religion in and of itself or certainly a belief system.


Too funny. I have never asked or demanded that anyone believe as
I do on
this subject. All I would like is for the religious to stop
forcing their
beliefs onto society on government.



Bull****.



Have I ever knocked on your door and asked you if you found
non-religion? (And for Fretwell, I don't mean literally).

People knock on my door, bombard my TV shows or send me mail asking me
about all sorts of things I don't believe in but that is their right.
It is my right to ignore them.
Would you deny the right of people to talk about their religion but
allow them to tell me about why I should accept their other strange
deviancies.



I don't care if people "talk" about their religion so long as they
don't try to force their religious beliefs on me or my country or in
legislation.


I know this is a waste of time but then why do you insist on posting
your regular anti-religion tirades here and mocking those who happen
to have faith in something?

You're a hypocrite.


Why do the religious post religious tirades here? Because they can.
First amendment, after all. Got it?


Oh, I get it ok.* You're a hypocrite.




I have no objection to the superstitious expressing their religious
beliefs publicly, but I do object when they push those beliefs onto
rules, regulations, laws others who believe differently must follow, or
when they use public property to promote those views.

It's perfectly ok for a church or a homeowner or the owner of a private
business on private property to put up a monument of the 10 commandments
on the front lawn, or a creche, or a statue of jesus, et cetera. It's
NOT ok for those religious symbols to be put up in a public park, a
courthouse, a public school, a publicly owned civic center, because
doing that promotes religion.

A few years ago, a local church started putting up a month before
elections a display of several hundred little crosses along with an
anti-abortion sign. It owns the property on which the display is
erected. I called the minister to point out that not all the fetuses
that are aborted are of christian families. He agreed, so the next year
there were some little stars of david and little crescent moons and
stars, to include jewish and moslem fetuses. Makes me smile when I see
the display each year, because it is a legally proper display of the
first amendment, and it is inclusive. :)

There is a good chance Donnee believs that tale.