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On 4/9/18 11:13 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 10:51:20 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/9/18 8:37 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 7:03:57 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/9/18 7:42 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:29:31 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 19:12:36 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 6:43 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 6:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 6:04 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers are going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in your life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a unique form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to bother you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the religious
do in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt. When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the
government, then that is where they exceed what they should be
allowed to do.


You're full of explanations and excuses but the bottom line is:

You're an atheist.




Do you think that is some sort of insult?

No. Just the facts jack.




No worries...atheists, unlike christians, don’t murder people who have
different or no religious beliefs.

What religion was Hitler famous for?

And Stalin. And Mao.



In Mein Kampf and in speeches, Hitler said he was a christian. In his
later years, he denounced religious beliefs.

OK, so was he, and did he act like a 'Christian' or not? BTW, he, dabbled in the occult a lot.


Stalin was raised in a religious household.

Ha. "raised" in a religious household, but made religion a crime against thee state. So, was he a christian or not?

| Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.

So Mao wasn't religious either. Maybe that's why all these guys slaughtered millions. because of their paranoid atheist beliefs.


Why did christians throughout history engage in their slaughters?
Paranoid religious beliefs?


===

It's important to put some of that in historical context. My
recollection, possibly faulty, is that islamic regions were
threatening to take over all of Europe and almost succeeded. That
makes it less of a religious dispute and more of a territorial culture
clash. Feel free to set the record straight.

---


Most of what we commonly refer to as the Crusades involved Europeans
campaigning in the eastern Med area to take back the Holy Land from the
Muslims.

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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 4/8/2018 9:53 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 8:11 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 7:57 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 18:04:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/8/18 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers are
going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their
religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in your
life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a unique form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to bother
you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the
religious do
in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt. When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the
government,
then that is where they exceed what they should be allowed to do.

You push your atheism on everyone, more aggressively than the worst
evangelist.
Just the fact that you denigrate people's deeply held beliefs
incessantly, demonstrates you are not a live and let live person. This
is a crusade with you and you are trying to rid the world of religion.
That IS a religion in and of itself or certainly a belief system.


Too funny. I have never asked or demanded that anyone believe as I do on
this subject. All I would like is for the religious to stop forcing
their
beliefs onto society on government.



Bull****.



Have I ever knocked on your door and asked you if you found
non-religion? (And for Fretwell, I don't mean literally).

Harry, you post anti-religion rants here on almost a daily basis
and mock those who have a belief or faith. You are pro-active
in your quest to keep religion out of your life, probably because
it scares you.




Harry is so ****ed at his wife for her religious beliefs he has to
vent somewhere. And it's not likely that he will bite the hand
thst feeds him. So, when he explodes, he does it
here.

Sorry, **** for brains, but my wife's beliefs do not include organized
religion. Oh, and my annual income is just a few thousand lower than hers,
now that I have cut back to three major active accounts. That means that
separately, we each earn more annually than you ever did.

--
Posted with my iPad Pro


The facts don't bear out your claim.

1 You were bankrupt TWICE

2 Your ****ty little ranch style bungalo in Jacksonville was
forclosed, prompting your wife to get a job in DC and seek
secondary income in Dunkirk

3 You had judgements against you for tax delinquencies in Florida
and Federally.

4 You ****ed away a substantial inheritance.

5 You have been caught lying about virtually everything you
dreamed up in an effort to impress us.

6 You write like a child, leading us to question your scholastic CV.

7 Your wife is protestant and she isn't afraid to admit it. Are
you stepping on her right to free religious epression?

8 You are a fat, ugly, asshole who probably smells bad. Hense the
aroma you are constantly complaining about.

:-) MAN, THAT FELT GOOD :-)
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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/9/18 10:58 AM, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
John H

- show quoted text -

"I wonder where your main supporter, Donnee, has been during this whole discussion? Not once did I
see his famous, "I agree wholeheartedly with this post!"

Maybe he actually believes in the 'guy in the sky' so won't agree with you but doesn't have the
balls to disagree."



Hey, JohnnyMop. Why are y'all trying to drag me into your squabbles with Harry? Tired of him bitch slapping you from pillar to post?
You won't fare any better with me.


Ahhh, so you are an athiest now too. That's the thanks the nuns
get for trying to educate you and instill in you the values that
make youth into productive and useful members of society.
Instead, you drank the union kool-ade and became a janitor with
the usual union protection.



This from a guy who went into the naveeee? Too funny.


Explain why you think that's funny.
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 07:48:18 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/9/18 12:57 AM, wrote:

I feel the same way about a half dozen militant groups who ram their
message down our throats but you think that is their 1st amendment
right even when it does happen on public property.
All the 1st amendment says about religion is "Congress shall make no
law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free
exercise thereof". If my city council allows a privately funded
display in front of city hall. "congress" was not involved at all,
There was no "law" and if anything, denying it is "prohibiting the
free exercise of".
Nobody even considered this until militant atheists with the help of
the Warren court, twisted those words.



Is the message of those "militant groups" religious? No? Then it is
protected speech, even on public property.

So arson is protected speech but if I say Merry Christmas in the park
it is illegal.
Don't you see the insanity of that?

Do you suppose the religiously backwards state of Alabama forced Judge
Roy Moore to twice remove those "statues" of the 10 commandments because:

1. Roy was a devout conservative christian,

2. Roy was an accused rapist, child molester, and sexual predator,

3. Such a display violated the 1st Amendment.

I understand that a particular SCOTUS said that but it was not seen
that way before the early 60s and may very well change again.
Exactly where does the 1st amendment say ANYTHING about what the
Alabama legislature does?
"Congress shall make no law..." "Congress" had nothing to do with it.
If we have to read the first 4 words of the 2d amendment to understand
the rest, how can you ignore the first 5 words of the 1st?
Also how is passively allowing something "establishment". Pardon me
Scooter, I think religion was "established" 4000 years before James
Madison was born. The 1st amendment was written to avoid a federally
"established" government religion, not the "free exercise" of already
established ones and it was seen that way for about 185 years until
Warren changed it.

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On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 07:52:10 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/9/18 1:02 AM, wrote:

People knock on my door, bombard my TV shows or send me mail asking me
about all sorts of things I don't believe in but that is their right.
It is my right to ignore them.
Would you deny the right of people to talk about their religion but
allow them to tell me about why I should accept their other strange
deviancies.



I don't care if people "talk" about their religion so long as they don't
try to force their religious beliefs on me or my country or in legislation.

How have they "forced" religion on you any more than me having to hear
about why the sexually confused should be able to force their beliefs
on us.

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On Monday, 9 April 2018 07:55:47 UTC-4, True North wrote:
John H

- show quoted text -

"I wonder where your main supporter, Donnee, has been during this whole discussion? Not once did IÂ*
see his famous, "I agree wholeheartedly with this post!"Â*

Maybe he actually believes in the 'guy in the sky' so won't agree with you but doesn't have theÂ*
balls to disagree."







Hey, JohnnyMop. Why are y'all trying to drag me into your squabbles with Harry? Tired of him bitch slapping you from pillar to post?
You won't fare any better with me.

Harry bitch slapping? He hasn't got the balls to address me. Kinda like you with his anti-Christian rants. The hard questions are just too hard for him, just as they are for you.

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On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 07:54:13 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


Religion certainly is scary...millions of people have died in the name
of "my religion is the right one, and yours is the wrong one."

That is true of the middle east wars, going back 1500 years where
europeans invaded the "holy land" but most in other places wars are
over land.
BTW you seem to be the biggest defender here of the current european
"crusaders" in the middle east.

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On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 08:30:31 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/9/2018 7:52 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:


I don't care if people "talk" about their religion so long as they don't
try to force their religious beliefs on me or my country or in legislation.


I know this is a waste of time but then why do you insist on posting
your regular anti-religion tirades here and mocking those who happen to
have faith in something?

You're a hypocrite.

Simply put, he is forcing his beliefs on us.

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On 4/9/18 11:29 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 4/8/2018 9:53 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 8:11 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 7:57 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 18:04:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/8/18 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers are
going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their
religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in your
life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a unique form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to bother
you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the
religious do
in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt. When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the
government,
then that is where they exceed what they should be allowed to do.

You push your atheism on everyone, more aggressively than the worst
evangelist.
Just the fact that you denigrate people's deeply held beliefs
incessantly, demonstrates you are not a live and let live person. This
is a crusade with you and you are trying to rid the world of religion.
That IS a religion in and of itself or certainly a belief system.


Too funny. I have never asked or demanded that anyone believe as I do on
this subject. All I would like is for the religious to stop forcing
their
beliefs onto society on government.



Bull****.



Have I ever knocked on your door and asked you if you found
non-religion? (And for Fretwell, I don't mean literally).

Harry, you post anti-religion rants here on almost a daily basis
and mock those who have a belief or faith. You are pro-active
in your quest to keep religion out of your life, probably because
it scares you.




Harry is so ****ed at his wife for her religious beliefs he has to
vent somewhere. And it's not likely that he will bite the hand
thst feeds him. So, when he explodes, he does it
here.

Sorry, **** for brains, but my wife's beliefs do not include organized
religion. Oh, and my annual income is just a few thousand lower than hers,
now that I have cut back to three major active accounts. That means that
separately, we each earn more annually than you ever did.

--
Posted with my iPad Pro


The facts don't bear out your claim.

1 You were bankrupt TWICE

2 Your ****ty little ranch style bungalo in Jacksonville was
forclosed, prompting your wife to get a job in DC and seek
secondary income in Dunkirk

3 You had judgements against you for tax delinquencies in Florida
and Federally.

4 You ****ed away a substantial inheritance.

5 You have been caught lying about virtually everything you
dreamed up in an effort to impress us.

6 You write like a child, leading us to question your scholastic CV.

7 Your wife is protestant and she isn't afraid to admit it. Are
you stepping on her right to free religious epression?

8 You are a fat, ugly, asshole who probably smells bad. Hense the
aroma you are constantly complaining about.

:-) MAN, THAT FELT GOOD :-)



Too funny. Really.

*Never* owned a house in Jax. Never had the medical problems you keep
bringing up, either. Did have cataract surgery and carpal tunnel
surgery.

Twenty years ago, wife was retained as a consultant to help an
organization in DC draw up specifications for some new personnel, and
she so impressed the execs, they offered her a job they hadn't even
considered. She just celebrated her 20th year with that organization. At
the time she was recruited, she was employed as chief mental health
therapist at a major hospital in Florida.

That's what sometimes happens to educated, experienced, quality
people...they get offered terrific jobs...something you and no one else
in your family have ever experienced.

The only thing I "inherited" was a boat store building that was
demolished and, with two partners, rebuilt as a strip mall. My share is
still in the family. Oh, I also inherited a bunch of hand tools. The
bulk of my dad's estate went to my mom, and, at her death, the remainder
was bequeathed to a couple of her favorite charities.

You couldn't differentiate good writing from bad, as you are barely
literate.

My wife's family religion was protestant, but she doesn't follow any
religion. In the past two decades, I think she's been in a church three
times...two funerals and the wedding of our nephew.

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On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 09:51:04 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 08:03:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/9/18 7:42 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:29:31 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 19:12:36 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 6:43 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 6:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/8/2018 6:04 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/8/18 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:01:25 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


I'm agnostic, but I don't mind. Someday, we non-believers are going to
get together so we can emulate you christians and kill christians,
moslems, jews, buddhists, sikhs, et cetera, because their religion is
different from ours. Oh, wait...we don't have a religion.

Of course you do. Atheism has become as strong a force in your life as
any other person's religious beliefs and you force your dogma on
everyone around you by simply being offended and using the power of
government to quell things you find offensive. It is a unique form of
offense too because other offensive things don't seem to bother you at
all.


Atheism is not a force at all. I don't give a **** what the religious
do in their churches or homes, so long as no one gets hurt. When the
religious try to push their superstitions on society or the
government, then that is where they exceed what they should be
allowed to do.


You're full of explanations and excuses but the bottom line is:

You're an atheist.




Do you think that is some sort of insult?

No. Just the facts jack.




No worries...atheists, unlike christians, don’t murder people who have
different or no religious beliefs.

What religion was Hitler famous for?

And Stalin. And Mao.



In Mein Kampf and in speeches, Hitler said he was a christian. In his
later years, he denounced religious beliefs. Well, there have been
plenty of horrific leaders over the years who were religious. European
history is rife with them.

Stalin was raised in a religious household. Mao was no fan of the
ancient religious beliefs in his country that were used to control the
peasants.


What was he when he was slaughtering Jews, Krause?

Come on, they were just enforcing their version of the 1st amendment.