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On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 09:46:35 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I attended college for a while following high school however I was
young, restless and frankly tired of school, especially of the stupid
"liberal arts" courses we all took. So, I dropped out, much to my
parent's dismay and got a job at Boston Whaler.

My parents ... particularly my father ... was starting to put the
pressure on regarding my future and, without their knowledge, I met with
a Navy recruiter a couple of times to explore that option. I didn't
join however until one day I received a "Greetings" letter from the
draft board. I immediately contacted the Navy recruiter who told me to
ignore it and come on in to sign up for my "adventure".

For me, it was not a bad choice. As I often tell people I feel I got
more out of the experience than I gave. It allowed me to mature a bit,
decide what I really wanted to do and the Navy assisted and paid for
much of what I had to do to accomplish it. :-)


Sounds like me. My Marine buddy had me drive him down to the recruiter
and while I was there the Navy guy talked me into taking the tests.
When I aced the ETST (pretty much what I had just taken in the last 2
semesters) the navy and CG guys started bidding and the CG won. I had
already talked to the CG and they had me on file but I had been
interested in working at a life boat station when they talked to me
then. I was on the waiting list. They bumped me up to "right now" and
I was off to boot camp in a week or two. My Marine buddy was at
Holibird 3 days before me.

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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/24/2018 10:01 PM, wrote:
On 24 Mar 2018 21:26:43 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 13:29:53 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/24/18 1:21 PM, wrote:


BTW the army did draft people in your position, if they had critical
skills. My buddy was drafted within months after graduating because
they wanted computer guys ... and he was married with a kid.
Evidently they had all of the liberal arts people they needed.



Right, because what use would the military have for someone with
language skills in Russian and German, and knowledge of group dynamics
(sociology), and skills to teach English to nincompoops. I'm happy the
military had no use for me.

Evidently not. If they really thought you had something they needed
they would have drafted you. They certainly had no need for a liberal
arts style of group dynamics and the only thing they wanted to say in
Russian is "You better stay in Russia or we will **** you up".


Oh...you think draft boards thought beyond filling a quota. That’s a laugh.
A member of a KC draft board who worked at the paper told me all they were
looking for were young men who could pass the preinduction physical with
reasonable health. Once they met their quota, they stopped looking. Period.
Perhaps the standards were a hair higher for enlisted. Perhaps.

If you had a skill they wanted, they came after you. He was never
going to be cannon fodder ... unless the russians came through the
Fulda Gap. They trained him up on army computer systems and sent him
to Germany, pretty much straight out of boot camp.


My recollection of those days differ from what you and Harry are saying.

Maybe it's because I was eligible in 1968 which was the peak of the
draft period in the Vietnam war.

I don't think the draft boards paid any attention or had any information
as to what your "skills" or education level were until *after* you
received your induction notice. *That* is when you took tests and they
considered your background or school status.

I know of several people who were in college at the time yet still
received a notice to report for the induction exam. All they did was
reply to the draft board that they were currently attending school and
they were given a deferment although at one point if your grade point
average was below a certain level they could still grab you.


I think the deferment got a skills rating.

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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/25/18 8:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/24/2018 10:01 PM, wrote:
On 24 Mar 2018 21:26:43 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 13:29:53 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/24/18 1:21 PM, wrote:


BTW the army did draft people in your position, if they had critical
skills. My buddy was drafted within months after graduating because
they wanted computer guys ... and he was married with a kid.
Evidently they had all of the liberal arts people they needed.



Right, because what use would the military have for someone with
language skills in Russian and German, and knowledge of group dynamics
(sociology), and skills to teach English to nincompoops. I'm happy the
military had no use for me.

Evidently not. If they really thought you had something they needed
they would have drafted you. They certainly had no need for a liberal
arts style of group dynamics and the only thing they wanted to say in
Russian is "You better stay in Russia or we will **** you up".


Oh...you think draft boards thought beyond filling a quota. That’s a
laugh.
A member of a KC draft board who worked at the paper told me all they
were
looking for were young men who could pass the preinduction physical with
reasonable health. Once they met their quota, they stopped looking.
Period.
Perhaps the standards were a hair higher for enlisted. Perhaps.

If you had a skill they wanted, they came after you. He was never
going to be cannon fodder ... unless the russians came through the
Fulda Gap. They trained him up on army computer systems and sent him
to Germany, pretty much straight out of boot camp.


My recollection of those days differ from what you and Harry are saying.

Maybe it's because I was eligible in 1968 which was the peak of the
draft period in the Vietnam war.

I don't think the draft boards paid any attention or had any information
as to what your "skills" or education level were until *after* you
received your induction notice.Â* *That* is when you took tests and they
considered your background or school status.

I know of several people who were in college at the time yet still
received a notice to report for the induction exam.Â* All they did was
reply to the draft board that they were currently attending school and
they were given a deferment although at one point if your grade point
average was below a certain level they could still grab you.

My recollection is the same as yours...as I stated...draft boards had
quotas to fill, and they had no knowledge of skillsets of the men from
which they were making their choices. As for enlistees, the guys I
remember who said they were going to sign up typically had the lowest
GPAs and were not planning to attend college. They joined the military
to learn skills that might translate into decent jobs. And attending a
public college or university was really inexpensive in those days. We
have two in New Haven back then...New Haven College and Southern
Connecticut State...where a full academic load could be purchased for
few hundred dollars a semester, and classes were offered during the day
and at night.



School was cheaper in those days, but a few hundred dollars was a lot in
those days. A nurse made less than $400 a month in 1964.

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Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/25/2018 9:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/25/18 8:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/24/2018 10:01 PM, wrote:
On 24 Mar 2018 21:26:43 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 13:29:53 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/24/18 1:21 PM, wrote:


BTW the army did draft people in your position, if they had critical
skills. My buddy was drafted within months after graduating because
they wanted computer guys ... and he was married with a kid.
Evidently they had all of the liberal arts people they needed.



Right, because what use would the military have for someone with
language skills in Russian and German, and knowledge of group
dynamics
(sociology), and skills to teach English to nincompoops. I'm happy
the
military had no use for me.

Evidently not. If they really thought you had something they needed
they would have drafted you. They certainly had no need for a liberal
arts style of group dynamics and the only thing they wanted to say in
Russian is "You better stay in Russia or we will **** you up".


Oh...you think draft boards thought beyond filling a quota. That’s a
laugh.
A member of a KC draft board who worked at the paper told me all
they were
looking for were young men who could pass the preinduction physical
with
reasonable health. Once they met their quota, they stopped looking.
Period.
Perhaps the standards were a hair higher for enlisted. Perhaps.

If you had a skill they wanted, they came after you. He was never
going to be cannon fodder ... unless the russians came through the
Fulda Gap. They trained him up on army computer systems and sent him
to Germany, pretty much straight out of boot camp.


My recollection of those days differ from what you and Harry are saying.

Maybe it's because I was eligible in 1968 which was the peak of the
draft period in the Vietnam war.

I don't think the draft boards paid any attention or had any
information as to what your "skills" or education level were until
*after* you received your induction notice.Â* *That* is when you took
tests and they considered your background or school status.

I know of several people who were in college at the time yet still
received a notice to report for the induction exam.Â* All they did was
reply to the draft board that they were currently attending school and
they were given a deferment although at one point if your grade point
average was below a certain level they could still grab you.

My recollection is the same as yours...as I stated...draft boards had
quotas to fill, and they had no knowledge of skillsets of the men from
which they were making their choices. As for enlistees, the guys I
remember who said they were going to sign up typically had the lowest
GPAs and were not planning to attend college. They joined the military
to learn skills that might translate into decent jobs. And attending a
public college or university was really inexpensive in those days. We
have two in New Haven back then...New Haven College and Southern
Connecticut State...where a full academic load could be purchased for
few hundred dollars a semester, and classes were offered during the day
and at night.



I attended college for a while following high school however I was
young, restless and frankly tired of school, especially of the stupid
"liberal arts" courses we all took. So, I dropped out, much to my
parent's dismay and got a job at Boston Whaler.

My parents ... particularly my father ... was starting to put the
pressure on regarding my future and, without their knowledge, I met with
a Navy recruiter a couple of times to explore that option. I didn't
join however until one day I received a "Greetings" letter from the
draft board. I immediately contacted the Navy recruiter who told me to
ignore it and come on in to sign up for my "adventure".

For me, it was not a bad choice. As I often tell people I feel I got
more out of the experience than I gave. It allowed me to mature a bit,
decide what I really wanted to do and the Navy assisted and paid for
much of what I had to do to accomplish it. :-)




Whatever works. I’m sure I would have been a terrible soldier, as I would
have had no patience for military style regimentation. After I finished my
course requirements for English and Sociology majors, I filled out my last
semester with two classes in journalism school because the hot redhead I
was dating was a journalism major and thanks to a buddy, I had access to
the photo darkroom. No discipline! :)


So you admit your schooling was not serious.

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On 3/25/2018 12:46 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 08:00:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/24/2018 10:01 PM, wrote:
On 24 Mar 2018 21:26:43 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 13:29:53 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/24/18 1:21 PM, wrote:


BTW the army did draft people in your position, if they had critical
skills. My buddy was drafted within months after graduating because
they wanted computer guys ... and he was married with a kid.
Evidently they had all of the liberal arts people they needed.



Right, because what use would the military have for someone with
language skills in Russian and German, and knowledge of group dynamics
(sociology), and skills to teach English to nincompoops. I'm happy the
military had no use for me.

Evidently not. If they really thought you had something they needed
they would have drafted you. They certainly had no need for a liberal
arts style of group dynamics and the only thing they wanted to say in
Russian is "You better stay in Russia or we will **** you up".


Oh...you think draft boards thought beyond filling a quota. That’s a laugh.
A member of a KC draft board who worked at the paper told me all they were
looking for were young men who could pass the preinduction physical with
reasonable health. Once they met their quota, they stopped looking. Period.
Perhaps the standards were a hair higher for enlisted. Perhaps.

If you had a skill they wanted, they came after you. He was never
going to be cannon fodder ... unless the russians came through the
Fulda Gap. They trained him up on army computer systems and sent him
to Germany, pretty much straight out of boot camp.


My recollection of those days differ from what you and Harry are saying.

Maybe it's because I was eligible in 1968 which was the peak of the
draft period in the Vietnam war.

I don't think the draft boards paid any attention or had any information
as to what your "skills" or education level were until *after* you
received your induction notice. *That* is when you took tests and they
considered your background or school status.

I know of several people who were in college at the time yet still
received a notice to report for the induction exam. All they did was
reply to the draft board that they were currently attending school and
they were given a deferment although at one point if your grade point
average was below a certain level they could still grab you.

As I said in Dec 69 the induction rate was 50% of those eligible.
(had their name in the drum).
It did seem clear that my buddy was targeted tho since they put him in
the computer program right out of boot camp and he was married with a
kid. Usually that pushed you down the list before the lottery. My
brother in law had 4 kids (adopted) and he was deferred because of it.



Much more coincidental based on the "needs" of the service at the time,
I think. Like I said, the draft board didn't maintain a dossier on
eligible draftees. They just had a massive list of registered people
and birthdays. If you got a notice and happened to know someone with
some "pull" you could probably get preferential treatment, but not
before your name came up.

I was targeted for a special program, probably in bootcamp but unknown
to me at the time. It didn't become known to me until a couple of
months later when I was in RM "A" school. I didn't know anyone
important, I wasn't "special" in any way .... I just happened to come
along at a time when they were selecting people for the project and,
like a lottery, my name (or service number) came up.

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On 3/25/18 1:19 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/25/2018 9:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/25/18 8:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/24/2018 10:01 PM, wrote:
On 24 Mar 2018 21:26:43 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 13:29:53 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/24/18 1:21 PM, wrote:


BTW the army did draft people in your position, if they had critical
skills. My buddy was drafted within months after graduating because
they wanted computer guys ... and he was married with a kid.
Evidently they had all of the liberal arts people they needed.



Right, because what use would the military have for someone with
language skills in Russian and German, and knowledge of group
dynamics
(sociology), and skills to teach English to nincompoops. I'm happy
the
military had no use for me.

Evidently not. If they really thought you had something they needed
they would have drafted you. They certainly had no need for a liberal
arts style of group dynamics and the only thing they wanted to say in
Russian is "You better stay in Russia or we will **** you up".


Oh...you think draft boards thought beyond filling a quota. That’s a
laugh.
A member of a KC draft board who worked at the paper told me all
they were
looking for were young men who could pass the preinduction physical
with
reasonable health. Once they met their quota, they stopped looking.
Period.
Perhaps the standards were a hair higher for enlisted. Perhaps.

If you had a skill they wanted, they came after you. He was never
going to be cannon fodder ... unless the russians came through the
Fulda Gap. They trained him up on army computer systems and sent him
to Germany, pretty much straight out of boot camp.


My recollection of those days differ from what you and Harry are saying.

Maybe it's because I was eligible in 1968 which was the peak of the
draft period in the Vietnam war.

I don't think the draft boards paid any attention or had any
information as to what your "skills" or education level were until
*after* you received your induction notice.Â* *That* is when you took
tests and they considered your background or school status.

I know of several people who were in college at the time yet still
received a notice to report for the induction exam.Â* All they did was
reply to the draft board that they were currently attending school and
they were given a deferment although at one point if your grade point
average was below a certain level they could still grab you.

My recollection is the same as yours...as I stated...draft boards had
quotas to fill, and they had no knowledge of skillsets of the men from
which they were making their choices. As for enlistees, the guys I
remember who said they were going to sign up typically had the lowest
GPAs and were not planning to attend college. They joined the military
to learn skills that might translate into decent jobs. And attending a
public college or university was really inexpensive in those days. We
have two in New Haven back then...New Haven College and Southern
Connecticut State...where a full academic load could be purchased for
few hundred dollars a semester, and classes were offered during the day
and at night.



I attended college for a while following high school however I was
young, restless and frankly tired of school, especially of the stupid
"liberal arts" courses we all took. So, I dropped out, much to my
parent's dismay and got a job at Boston Whaler.

My parents ... particularly my father ... was starting to put the
pressure on regarding my future and, without their knowledge, I met with
a Navy recruiter a couple of times to explore that option. I didn't
join however until one day I received a "Greetings" letter from the
draft board. I immediately contacted the Navy recruiter who told me to
ignore it and come on in to sign up for my "adventure".

For me, it was not a bad choice. As I often tell people I feel I got
more out of the experience than I gave. It allowed me to mature a bit,
decide what I really wanted to do and the Navy assisted and paid for
much of what I had to do to accomplish it. :-)




Whatever works. I’m sure I would have been a terrible soldier, as I would
have had no patience for military style regimentation. After I finished my
course requirements for English and Sociology majors, I filled out my last
semester with two classes in journalism school because the hot redhead I
was dating was a journalism major and thanks to a buddy, I had access to
the photo darkroom. No discipline! :)


So you admit your schooling was not serious.


If your logical processing tells you that, you are no good at logical
processing. In fact, you seem no brighter than Justan, Luddite's
intellectual hero. I fulfilled my degree requirements a semester ahead
of time but I needed more credits to graduate, so I took a typography
class and a page design class, and these enabled me to be close to my
red-headed honey. You would not have made it through most of the classes
I needed for my majors, as they required serious reading and writing
skills, and you have demonstrated many times here your reading
comprehension skills are minimal and your writing skills are close to
non-existent.

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On 3/25/2018 4:06 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/25/18 1:19 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/25/2018 9:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/25/18 8:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/24/2018 10:01 PM, wrote:
On 24 Mar 2018 21:26:43 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 13:29:53 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/24/18 1:21 PM, wrote:


BTW the army did draft people in your position, if they had
critical
skills. My buddy was drafted within months after graduating
because
they wanted computer guys ... and he was married with a kid.
Evidently they had all of the liberal arts people they needed.



Right, because what use would the military have for someone with
language skills in Russian and German, and knowledge of group
dynamics
(sociology), and skills to teach English to nincompoops. I'm
happy
the
military had no use for me.

Evidently not. If they really thought you had something they
needed
they would have drafted you. They certainly had no need for a
liberal
arts style of group dynamics and the only thing they wanted to
say in
Russian is "You better stay in Russia or we will **** you up".


Oh...you think draft boards thought beyond filling a quota.
That’s a
laugh.
A member of a KC draft board who worked at the paper told me all
they were
looking for were young men who could pass the preinduction physical
with
reasonable health. Once they met their quota, they stopped looking.
Period.
Perhaps the standards were a hair higher for enlisted. Perhaps.

If you had a skill they wanted, they came after you. He was never
going to be cannon fodder ... unless the russians came through the
Fulda Gap. They trained him up on army computer systems and sent him
to Germany, pretty much straight out of boot camp.


My recollection of those days differ from what you and Harry are
saying.

Maybe it's because I was eligible in 1968 which was the peak of the
draft period in the Vietnam war.

I don't think the draft boards paid any attention or had any
information as to what your "skills" or education level were until
*after* you received your induction notice.Â* *That* is when you took
tests and they considered your background or school status.

I know of several people who were in college at the time yet still
received a notice to report for the induction exam.Â* All they did was
reply to the draft board that they were currently attending school
and
they were given a deferment although at one point if your grade point
average was below a certain level they could still grab you.

My recollection is the same as yours...as I stated...draft boards had
quotas to fill, and they had no knowledge of skillsets of the men from
which they were making their choices. As for enlistees, the guys I
remember who said they were going to sign up typically had the lowest
GPAs and were not planning to attend college. They joined the military
to learn skills that might translate into decent jobs. And attending a
public college or university was really inexpensive in those days. We
have two in New Haven back then...New Haven College and Southern
Connecticut State...where a full academic load could be purchased for
few hundred dollars a semester, and classes were offered during the
day
and at night.



I attended college for a while following high school however I was
young, restless and frankly tired of school, especially of the stupid
"liberal arts" courses we all took.Â* So, I dropped out, much to my
parent's dismay and got a job at Boston Whaler.

My parents ... particularly my father ... was starting to put the
pressure on regarding my future and, without their knowledge, I met
with
a Navy recruiter a couple of times to explore that option.Â* I didn't
join however until one day I received a "Greetings" letter from the
draft board.Â* I immediately contacted the Navy recruiter who told me to
ignore it and come on in to sign up for my "adventure".

For me, it was not a bad choice.Â* As I often tell people I feel I got
more out of the experience than I gave. It allowed me to mature a bit,
decide what I really wanted to do and the Navy assisted and paid for
much of what I had to do to accomplish it.Â*Â* :-)




Whatever works. I’m sure I would have been a terrible soldier, as I
would
have had no patience for military style regimentation. After I
finished my
course requirements for English and Sociology majors, I filled out my
last
semester with two classes in journalism school because the hot redhead I
was dating was a journalism major and thanks to a buddy, I had access to
the photo darkroom. No discipline!Â* :)


So you admit your schooling was not serious.


If your logical processing tells you that, you are no good at logical
processing. In fact, you seem no brighter than Justan, Luddite's
intellectual hero. I fulfilled my degree requirements a semester ahead
of time but I needed more credits to graduate, so I took a typography
class and a page design class, and these enabled me to be close to my
red-headed honey. You would not have made it through most of the classes
I needed for my majors, as they required serious reading and writing
skills, and you have demonstrated many times here your reading
comprehension skills are minimal and your writing skills are close to
non-existent.

( let me finish this for you, Harry )


".... other than those, you seem to have had a more successful career
than I."

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On Sunday, March 25, 2018 at 4:25:00 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/25/2018 4:06 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/25/18 1:19 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/25/2018 9:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/25/18 8:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/24/2018 10:01 PM, wrote:
On 24 Mar 2018 21:26:43 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 13:29:53 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/24/18 1:21 PM, wrote:


BTW the army did draft people in your position, if they had
critical
skills. My buddy was drafted within months after graduating
because
they wanted computer guys ... and he was married with a kid.
Evidently they had all of the liberal arts people they needed..



Right, because what use would the military have for someone with
language skills in Russian and German, and knowledge of group
dynamics
(sociology), and skills to teach English to nincompoops. I'm
happy
the
military had no use for me.

Evidently not. If they really thought you had something they
needed
they would have drafted you. They certainly had no need for a
liberal
arts style of group dynamics and the only thing they wanted to
say in
Russian is "You better stay in Russia or we will **** you up".


Oh...you think draft boards thought beyond filling a quota.
That’s a
laugh.
A member of a KC draft board who worked at the paper told me all
they were
looking for were young men who could pass the preinduction physical
with
reasonable health. Once they met their quota, they stopped looking.
Period.
Perhaps the standards were a hair higher for enlisted. Perhaps.

If you had a skill they wanted, they came after you. He was never
going to be cannon fodder ... unless the russians came through the
Fulda Gap. They trained him up on army computer systems and sent him
to Germany, pretty much straight out of boot camp.


My recollection of those days differ from what you and Harry are
saying.

Maybe it's because I was eligible in 1968 which was the peak of the
draft period in the Vietnam war.

I don't think the draft boards paid any attention or had any
information as to what your "skills" or education level were until
*after* you received your induction notice.Â* *That* is when you took
tests and they considered your background or school status.

I know of several people who were in college at the time yet still
received a notice to report for the induction exam.Â* All they did was
reply to the draft board that they were currently attending school
and
they were given a deferment although at one point if your grade point
average was below a certain level they could still grab you.

My recollection is the same as yours...as I stated...draft boards had
quotas to fill, and they had no knowledge of skillsets of the men from
which they were making their choices. As for enlistees, the guys I
remember who said they were going to sign up typically had the lowest
GPAs and were not planning to attend college. They joined the military
to learn skills that might translate into decent jobs. And attending a
public college or university was really inexpensive in those days. We
have two in New Haven back then...New Haven College and Southern
Connecticut State...where a full academic load could be purchased for
few hundred dollars a semester, and classes were offered during the
day
and at night.



I attended college for a while following high school however I was
young, restless and frankly tired of school, especially of the stupid
"liberal arts" courses we all took.Â* So, I dropped out, much to my
parent's dismay and got a job at Boston Whaler.

My parents ... particularly my father ... was starting to put the
pressure on regarding my future and, without their knowledge, I met
with
a Navy recruiter a couple of times to explore that option.Â* I didn't
join however until one day I received a "Greetings" letter from the
draft board.Â* I immediately contacted the Navy recruiter who told me to
ignore it and come on in to sign up for my "adventure".

For me, it was not a bad choice.Â* As I often tell people I feel I got
more out of the experience than I gave. It allowed me to mature a bit,
decide what I really wanted to do and the Navy assisted and paid for
much of what I had to do to accomplish it.Â*Â* :-)




Whatever works. I’m sure I would have been a terrible soldier, as I
would
have had no patience for military style regimentation. After I
finished my
course requirements for English and Sociology majors, I filled out my
last
semester with two classes in journalism school because the hot redhead I
was dating was a journalism major and thanks to a buddy, I had access to
the photo darkroom. No discipline!Â* :)


So you admit your schooling was not serious.


If your logical processing tells you that, you are no good at logical
processing. In fact, you seem no brighter than Justan, Luddite's
intellectual hero. I fulfilled my degree requirements a semester ahead
of time but I needed more credits to graduate, so I took a typography
class and a page design class, and these enabled me to be close to my
red-headed honey. You would not have made it through most of the classes
I needed for my majors, as they required serious reading and writing
skills, and you have demonstrated many times here your reading
comprehension skills are minimal and your writing skills are close to
non-existent.

( let me finish this for you, Harry )


".... other than those, you seem to have had a more successful career
than I."

LMAO!

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Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/25/2018 4:06 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/25/18 1:19 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/25/2018 9:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/25/18 8:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/24/2018 10:01 PM, wrote:
On 24 Mar 2018 21:26:43 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 13:29:53 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/24/18 1:21 PM, wrote:


BTW the army did draft people in your position, if they had
critical
skills. My buddy was drafted within months after graduating
because
they wanted computer guys ... and he was married with a kid.
Evidently they had all of the liberal arts people they needed.



Right, because what use would the military have for someone with
language skills in Russian and German, and knowledge of group
dynamics
(sociology), and skills to teach English to nincompoops. I'm
happy
the
military had no use for me.

Evidently not. If they really thought you had something they
needed
they would have drafted you. They certainly had no need for a
liberal
arts style of group dynamics and the only thing they wanted to
say in
Russian is "You better stay in Russia or we will **** you up".


Oh...you think draft boards thought beyond filling a quota.
That’s a
laugh.
A member of a KC draft board who worked at the paper told me all
they were
looking for were young men who could pass the preinduction physical
with
reasonable health. Once they met their quota, they stopped looking.
Period.
Perhaps the standards were a hair higher for enlisted. Perhaps.

If you had a skill they wanted, they came after you. He was never
going to be cannon fodder ... unless the russians came through the
Fulda Gap. They trained him up on army computer systems and sent him
to Germany, pretty much straight out of boot camp.


My recollection of those days differ from what you and Harry are
saying.

Maybe it's because I was eligible in 1968 which was the peak of the
draft period in the Vietnam war.

I don't think the draft boards paid any attention or had any
information as to what your "skills" or education level were until
*after* you received your induction notice.Â* *That* is when you took
tests and they considered your background or school status.

I know of several people who were in college at the time yet still
received a notice to report for the induction exam.Â* All they did was
reply to the draft board that they were currently attending school
and
they were given a deferment although at one point if your grade point
average was below a certain level they could still grab you.

My recollection is the same as yours...as I stated...draft boards had
quotas to fill, and they had no knowledge of skillsets of the men from
which they were making their choices. As for enlistees, the guys I
remember who said they were going to sign up typically had the lowest
GPAs and were not planning to attend college. They joined the military
to learn skills that might translate into decent jobs. And attending a
public college or university was really inexpensive in those days. We
have two in New Haven back then...New Haven College and Southern
Connecticut State...where a full academic load could be purchased for
few hundred dollars a semester, and classes were offered during the
day
and at night.



I attended college for a while following high school however I was
young, restless and frankly tired of school, especially of the stupid
"liberal arts" courses we all took.Â* So, I dropped out, much to my
parent's dismay and got a job at Boston Whaler.

My parents ... particularly my father ... was starting to put the
pressure on regarding my future and, without their knowledge, I met
with
a Navy recruiter a couple of times to explore that option.Â* I didn't
join however until one day I received a "Greetings" letter from the
draft board.Â* I immediately contacted the Navy recruiter who told me to
ignore it and come on in to sign up for my "adventure".

For me, it was not a bad choice.Â* As I often tell people I feel I got
more out of the experience than I gave. It allowed me to mature a bit,
decide what I really wanted to do and the Navy assisted and paid for
much of what I had to do to accomplish it.Â*Â* :-)




Whatever works. I’m sure I would have been a terrible soldier, as I
would
have had no patience for military style regimentation. After I
finished my
course requirements for English and Sociology majors, I filled out my
last
semester with two classes in journalism school because the hot redhead I
was dating was a journalism major and thanks to a buddy, I had access to
the photo darkroom. No discipline!Â* :)


So you admit your schooling was not serious.


If your logical processing tells you that, you are no good at logical
processing. In fact, you seem no brighter than Justan, Luddite's
intellectual hero. I fulfilled my degree requirements a semester ahead
of time but I needed more credits to graduate, so I took a typography
class and a page design class, and these enabled me to be close to my
red-headed honey. You would not have made it through most of the classes
I needed for my majors, as they required serious reading and writing
skills, and you have demonstrated many times here your reading
comprehension skills are minimal and your writing skills are close to
non-existent.

( let me finish this for you, Harry )


".... other than those, you seem to have had a more successful career
than I."





Doubtful.


NOT!

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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/25/18 1:19 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/25/2018 9:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/25/18 8:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/24/2018 10:01 PM, wrote:
On 24 Mar 2018 21:26:43 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 13:29:53 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/24/18 1:21 PM, wrote:


BTW the army did draft people in your position, if they had critical
skills. My buddy was drafted within months after graduating because
they wanted computer guys ... and he was married with a kid.
Evidently they had all of the liberal arts people they needed.



Right, because what use would the military have for someone with
language skills in Russian and German, and knowledge of group
dynamics
(sociology), and skills to teach English to nincompoops. I'm happy
the
military had no use for me.

Evidently not. If they really thought you had something they needed
they would have drafted you. They certainly had no need for a liberal
arts style of group dynamics and the only thing they wanted to say in
Russian is "You better stay in Russia or we will **** you up".


Oh...you think draft boards thought beyond filling a quota. That’s a
laugh.
A member of a KC draft board who worked at the paper told me all
they were
looking for were young men who could pass the preinduction physical
with
reasonable health. Once they met their quota, they stopped looking.
Period.
Perhaps the standards were a hair higher for enlisted. Perhaps.

If you had a skill they wanted, they came after you. He was never
going to be cannon fodder ... unless the russians came through the
Fulda Gap. They trained him up on army computer systems and sent him
to Germany, pretty much straight out of boot camp.


My recollection of those days differ from what you and Harry are saying.

Maybe it's because I was eligible in 1968 which was the peak of the
draft period in the Vietnam war.

I don't think the draft boards paid any attention or had any
information as to what your "skills" or education level were until
*after* you received your induction notice.Â* *That* is when you took
tests and they considered your background or school status.

I know of several people who were in college at the time yet still
received a notice to report for the induction exam.Â* All they did was
reply to the draft board that they were currently attending school and
they were given a deferment although at one point if your grade point
average was below a certain level they could still grab you.

My recollection is the same as yours...as I stated...draft boards had
quotas to fill, and they had no knowledge of skillsets of the men from
which they were making their choices. As for enlistees, the guys I
remember who said they were going to sign up typically had the lowest
GPAs and were not planning to attend college. They joined the military
to learn skills that might translate into decent jobs. And attending a
public college or university was really inexpensive in those days. We
have two in New Haven back then...New Haven College and Southern
Connecticut State...where a full academic load could be purchased for
few hundred dollars a semester, and classes were offered during the day
and at night.



I attended college for a while following high school however I was
young, restless and frankly tired of school, especially of the stupid
"liberal arts" courses we all took. So, I dropped out, much to my
parent's dismay and got a job at Boston Whaler.

My parents ... particularly my father ... was starting to put the
pressure on regarding my future and, without their knowledge, I met with
a Navy recruiter a couple of times to explore that option. I didn't
join however until one day I received a "Greetings" letter from the
draft board. I immediately contacted the Navy recruiter who told me to
ignore it and come on in to sign up for my "adventure".

For me, it was not a bad choice. As I often tell people I feel I got
more out of the experience than I gave. It allowed me to mature a bit,
decide what I really wanted to do and the Navy assisted and paid for
much of what I had to do to accomplish it. :-)




Whatever works. I’m sure I would have been a terrible soldier, as I would
have had no patience for military style regimentation. After I finished my
course requirements for English and Sociology majors, I filled out my last
semester with two classes in journalism school because the hot redhead I
was dating was a journalism major and thanks to a buddy, I had access to
the photo darkroom. No discipline! :)


So you admit your schooling was not serious.


If your logical processing tells you that, you are no good at logical
processing. In fact, you seem no brighter than Justan, Luddite's
intellectual hero. I fulfilled my degree requirements a semester ahead
of time but I needed more credits to graduate, so I took a typography
class and a page design class, and these enabled me to be close to my
red-headed honey. You would not have made it through most of the classes
I needed for my majors, as they required serious reading and writing
skills, and you have demonstrated many times here your reading
comprehension skills are minimal and your writing skills are close to
non-existent.


My writing skills are existent enough to have earned enough money in my
life that I never was near declaring bankruptcy. My education was serious
enough to earn me enough money to not need bankruptcy. And your so-called
excellent writing skills are mostly shown as good cut and paste. You
plagiarized those papers you “wrote�? And you seemed to pick a 3rd rate
college for skirt chasing and not a decent education.