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Huh. George Bush ain't that bad of a guy after all...
On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 20:25:56 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: wrote: On 27 Jan 2018 21:52:45 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote: wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 18:35:55 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 2:09:35 AM UTC-6, wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:46:24 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 11:55:11 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - Both, one literally, the other figuratively but there is no comparison in what they accomplished. Kennedy's main claim to fame was ****ing Marilyn Monroe and getting shot. ... Jack was taken out way too early. Shame too. I look back at history and thought he could have done some great things. One thing about him was he could sure deliver a great speech... I am not as convinced. He was an arrogant jerk who almost destroyed the world for no real reason and his brother shredded the constitution. Other than that I suppose he did look good on TV. you may be right. I was 7 yrs old when he was assassinated. I'm looking far into retrospect. Camelot. Since he really screwed the pooch in his short time as President, but looked good, talked well, had a nice looking wife (who he played around on, and she to do the same playing around. Who the press seemed to overlook) and killed. The presidency was glossed up. There was a very good chance that he was going to lose the 64 election. That is why he was in Dallas in the first place, trying to get the solid southern democrat vote back. Lose to who? We might have actually seen Nixon again but Goldwater had a much better chance against a live JFK than LBJ over the body of a dead president. By September of 63 K's approval ratings had fallen to the lowest in his presidency and there was not even anyone from the GOP reminding us how bad things were going. I was in DC every day at that time 2 blocks from his house. The blood was in the water. Lose to who? Goldwater? Nixon? Romney?, that's if he gets past the LBJ primary challenge. Like I said, the blood was in the water. Maybe the news didn't get to Connecticut. They were too busy talking about Jackie's new hat. |
#22
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Huh. George Bush ain't that bad of a guy after all...
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On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 20:25:56 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On 27 Jan 2018 21:52:45 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote: wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 18:35:55 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 2:09:35 AM UTC-6, wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:46:24 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 11:55:11 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - Both, one literally, the other figuratively but there is no comparison in what they accomplished. Kennedy's main claim to fame was ****ing Marilyn Monroe and getting shot. ... Jack was taken out way too early. Shame too. I look back at history and thought he could have done some great things. One thing about him was he could sure deliver a great speech... I am not as convinced. He was an arrogant jerk who almost destroyed the world for no real reason and his brother shredded the constitution. Other than that I suppose he did look good on TV. you may be right. I was 7 yrs old when he was assassinated. I'm looking far into retrospect. Camelot. Since he really screwed the pooch in his short time as President, but looked good, talked well, had a nice looking wife (who he played around on, and she to do the same playing around. Who the press seemed to overlook) and killed. The presidency was glossed up. There was a very good chance that he was going to lose the 64 election. That is why he was in Dallas in the first place, trying to get the solid southern democrat vote back. Lose to who? We might have actually seen Nixon again but Goldwater had a much better chance against a live JFK than LBJ over the body of a dead president. By September of 63 K's approval ratings had fallen to the lowest in his presidency and there was not even anyone from the GOP reminding us how bad things were going. I was in DC every day at that time 2 blocks from his house. The blood was in the water. Lose to who? Goldwater? Nixon? Romney?, that's if he gets past the LBJ primary challenge. Like I said, the blood was in the water. Maybe the news didn't get to Connecticut. They were too busy talking about Jackie's new hat. None of them had a chance in 1964. Nixon lost and it was too soon to run again. Goldwater was too for out there. Romney? Nah. And I was living in Kansas. -- Posted with my iPhone 8+. |
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Huh. George Bush ain't that bad of a guy after all...
On 1/27/18 7:51 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 2:09:35 AM UTC-6, wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:46:24 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 11:55:11 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - Both, one literally, the other figuratively but there is no comparison in what they accomplished. Kennedy's main claim to fame was ****ing Marilyn Monroe and getting shot. ... Jack was taken out way too early. Shame too. I look back at history and thought he could have done some great things. One thing about him was he could sure deliver a great speech... I am not as convinced. He was an arrogant jerk who almost destroyed the world for no real reason and his brother shredded the constitution. Other than that I suppose he did look good on TV. you may be right. I was 7 yrs old when he was assassinated. I'm looking far into retrospect. If the Kennedys were Repubs, Fretwell would be praising their virtues. And you would be Dissing them. That's just stupid. I volunteered for a GOP House candidate in 1960, and I was still too young to vote in 1964. I liked Nixon and I liked Gerry Ford. |
#24
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Huh. George Bush ain't that bad of a guy after all...
On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 20:52:40 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 20:25:56 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On 27 Jan 2018 21:52:45 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote: wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 18:35:55 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 2:09:35 AM UTC-6, wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:46:24 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 11:55:11 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - Both, one literally, the other figuratively but there is no comparison in what they accomplished. Kennedy's main claim to fame was ****ing Marilyn Monroe and getting shot. ... Jack was taken out way too early. Shame too. I look back at history and thought he could have done some great things. One thing about him was he could sure deliver a great speech... I am not as convinced. He was an arrogant jerk who almost destroyed the world for no real reason and his brother shredded the constitution. Other than that I suppose he did look good on TV. you may be right. I was 7 yrs old when he was assassinated. I'm looking far into retrospect. Camelot. Since he really screwed the pooch in his short time as President, but looked good, talked well, had a nice looking wife (who he played around on, and she to do the same playing around. Who the press seemed to overlook) and killed. The presidency was glossed up. There was a very good chance that he was going to lose the 64 election. That is why he was in Dallas in the first place, trying to get the solid southern democrat vote back. Lose to who? We might have actually seen Nixon again but Goldwater had a much better chance against a live JFK than LBJ over the body of a dead president. By September of 63 K's approval ratings had fallen to the lowest in his presidency and there was not even anyone from the GOP reminding us how bad things were going. I was in DC every day at that time 2 blocks from his house. The blood was in the water. Lose to who? Goldwater? Nixon? Romney?, that's if he gets past the LBJ primary challenge. Like I said, the blood was in the water. Maybe the news didn't get to Connecticut. They were too busy talking about Jackie's new hat. None of them had a chance in 1964. Nixon lost and it was too soon to run again. Goldwater was too for out there. Romney? Nah. And I was living in Kansas. Ah yes, The political nerve center of the nation ... Kansas. That is almost like being in DC going to a private school with the kids of politically connected parents. Kennedy was in trouble. People were basically starting to ask "We see the beefcake but where is the beef"? The democrats were disillusioned and wondering if they did not just have the ticket flipped. JFK had a filibuster proof senate (65 votes) and a big majority in the house and yet they were not seeing much coming out of it. The buzz was Johnson might have taken a run at JFK in 64. To start with, he knew how sick Kennedy really was. Lots of people knew he was not right but the news covered it up ... just like FDR. Johnson was not that nice. |
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Huh. George Bush ain't that bad of a guy after all...
On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 21:50:53 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: That's just stupid. I volunteered for a GOP House candidate in 1960, and I was still too young to vote in 1964. I liked Nixon and I liked Gerry Ford. As I stated before, you should have loved Nixon. He was the best big government democrat you could ever hope for. A lot of people on the right thought we were egregiously betrayed. That may have been why Goldwater was on the side of **** canning him. |
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Huh. George Bush ain't that bad of a guy after all...
On 1/28/2018 9:37 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/28/18 7:04 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/28/2018 12:34 AM, wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 20:52:40 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 20:25:56 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On 27 Jan 2018 21:52:45 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote: wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 18:35:55 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 2:09:35 AM UTC-6, wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:46:24 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 11:55:11 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - Both, one literally, the other figuratively but there is no comparison in what they accomplished. Kennedy's main claim to fame was ****ing Marilyn Monroe and getting shot. ... Jack was taken out way too early. Shame too. I look back at history and thought he could have done some great things.Â* One thing about him was he could sure deliver a great speech... I am not as convinced. He was an arrogant jerk who almost destroyed the world for no real reason and his brother shredded the constitution. Other than that I suppose he did look good on TV. you may be right. I was 7 yrs old when he was assassinated. I'm looking far into retrospect. Camelot.Â*Â* Since he really screwed the pooch in his short time as President, but looked good, talked well, had a nice looking wife (who he played around on, and she to do the same playing around.Â* Who the press seemed to overlook) and killed.Â*Â* The presidency was glossed up. There was a very good chance that he was going to lose the 64 election. That is why he was in Dallas in the first place, trying to get the solid southern democrat vote back. Lose to who? We might have actually seen Nixon again but Goldwater had a much better chance against a live JFK than LBJ over the body of a dead president. By September of 63 K's approval ratings had fallen to the lowest in his presidency and there was not even anyone from the GOP reminding us how bad things were going. I was in DC every day at that time 2 blocks from his house. The blood was in the water. Lose to who? Goldwater? Nixon? Romney?, that's if he gets past the LBJ primary challenge. Like I said, the blood was in the water. Maybe the news didn't get to Connecticut. They were too busy talking about Jackie's new hat. None of them had a chance in 1964. Nixon lost and it was too soon to run again. Goldwater was too for out there. Romney? Nah. And I was living in Kansas. Ah yes, The political nerve center of the nation ... Kansas. That is almost like being in DC going to a private school with the kids of politically connected parents. Kennedy was in trouble. People were basically starting to ask "We see the beefcake butÂ* where is the beef"? The democrats were disillusioned and wondering if they did not just have the ticket flipped. JFK had a filibuster proof senate (65 votes) and a big majority in the house and yet they were not seeing much coming out of it. The buzz was Johnson might have taken a run at JFK in 64. To start with, he knew how sick Kennedy really was. Lots of people knew he was not right but the news covered it up ... just like FDR. Johnson was not that nice. In many ways Trump reminds me of LBJ, not so much in agenda issues but in personalities.Â* Both are/were bullies. LBJ understood government and the legislative process, and among other things, got the Civil Rights bill passed. Trump is a pig with no governmental or legislative talents, and would rescind what is left of the Civil Rights bill, if he could. Johnson has many great accomplishments and a colossal failure. Trump transferred more of the nation's wealth to the rich. All I said was that both personalities were/are those of a bully. BTW, what is your secret source of information that indicates that Trump would rescind the Civil Rights bill? Real info or more "Fake News"? |
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Huh. George Bush ain't that bad of a guy after all...
On 1/28/18 9:56 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2018 9:37 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/28/18 7:04 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/28/2018 12:34 AM, wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 20:52:40 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 20:25:56 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On 27 Jan 2018 21:52:45 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote: wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 18:35:55 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 2:09:35 AM UTC-6, wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:46:24 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 11:55:11 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - Both, one literally, the other figuratively but there is no comparison in what they accomplished. Kennedy's main claim to fame was ****ing Marilyn Monroe and getting shot. ... Jack was taken out way too early. Shame too. I look back at history and thought he could have done some great things.Â* One thing about him was he could sure deliver a great speech... I am not as convinced. He was an arrogant jerk who almost destroyed the world for no real reason and his brother shredded the constitution. Other than that I suppose he did look good on TV. you may be right. I was 7 yrs old when he was assassinated. I'm looking far into retrospect. Camelot.Â*Â* Since he really screwed the pooch in his short time as President, but looked good, talked well, had a nice looking wife (who he played around on, and she to do the same playing around.Â* Who the press seemed to overlook) and killed.Â*Â* The presidency was glossed up. There was a very good chance that he was going to lose the 64 election. That is why he was in Dallas in the first place, trying to get the solid southern democrat vote back. Lose to who? We might have actually seen Nixon again but Goldwater had a much better chance against a live JFK than LBJ over the body of a dead president. By September of 63 K's approval ratings had fallen to the lowest in his presidency and there was not even anyone from the GOP reminding us how bad things were going. I was in DC every day at that time 2 blocks from his house. The blood was in the water. Lose to who? Goldwater? Nixon? Romney?, that's if he gets past the LBJ primary challenge. Like I said, the blood was in the water. Maybe the news didn't get to Connecticut. They were too busy talking about Jackie's new hat. None of them had a chance in 1964. Nixon lost and it was too soon to run again. Goldwater was too for out there. Romney? Nah. And I was living in Kansas. Ah yes, The political nerve center of the nation ... Kansas. That is almost like being in DC going to a private school with the kids of politically connected parents. Kennedy was in trouble. People were basically starting to ask "We see the beefcake butÂ* where is the beef"? The democrats were disillusioned and wondering if they did not just have the ticket flipped. JFK had a filibuster proof senate (65 votes) and a big majority in the house and yet they were not seeing much coming out of it. The buzz was Johnson might have taken a run at JFK in 64. To start with, he knew how sick Kennedy really was. Lots of people knew he was not right but the news covered it up ... just like FDR. Johnson was not that nice. In many ways Trump reminds me of LBJ, not so much in agenda issues but in personalities.Â* Both are/were bullies. LBJ understood government and the legislative process, and among other things, got the Civil Rights bill passed. Trump is a pig with no governmental or legislative talents, and would rescind what is left of the Civil Rights bill, if he could. Johnson has many great accomplishments and a colossal failure. Trump transferred more of the nation's wealth to the rich. All I said was that both personalities were/are those of a bully. BTW, what is your secret source of information that indicates that Trump would rescind the Civil Rights bill?Â*Â* Real info or more "Fake News"? Trump is a racist. There are racists in his administration. The most prominent is Steve Miller. |
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Huh. George Bush ain't that bad of a guy after all...
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2018 9:37 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/28/18 7:04 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/28/2018 12:34 AM, wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 20:52:40 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 20:25:56 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On 27 Jan 2018 21:52:45 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote: wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 18:35:55 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 2:09:35 AM UTC-6, wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:46:24 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 11:55:11 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - Both, one literally, the other figuratively but there is no comparison in what they accomplished. Kennedy's main claim to fame was ****ing Marilyn Monroe and getting shot. ... Jack was taken out way too early. Shame too. I look back at history and thought he could have done some great things.Â* One thing about him was he could sure deliver a great speech... I am not as convinced. He was an arrogant jerk who almost destroyed the world for no real reason and his brother shredded the constitution. Other than that I suppose he did look good on TV. you may be right. I was 7 yrs old when he was assassinated. I'm looking far into retrospect. Camelot.Â*Â* Since he really screwed the pooch in his short time as President, but looked good, talked well, had a nice looking wife (who he played around on, and she to do the same playing around.Â* Who the press seemed to overlook) and killed.Â*Â* The presidency was glossed up. There was a very good chance that he was going to lose the 64 election. That is why he was in Dallas in the first place, trying to get the solid southern democrat vote back. Lose to who? We might have actually seen Nixon again but Goldwater had a much better chance against a live JFK than LBJ over the body of a dead president. By September of 63 K's approval ratings had fallen to the lowest in his presidency and there was not even anyone from the GOP reminding us how bad things were going. I was in DC every day at that time 2 blocks from his house. The blood was in the water. Lose to who? Goldwater? Nixon? Romney?, that's if he gets past the LBJ primary challenge. Like I said, the blood was in the water. Maybe the news didn't get to Connecticut. They were too busy talking about Jackie's new hat. None of them had a chance in 1964. Nixon lost and it was too soon to run again. Goldwater was too for out there. Romney? Nah. And I was living in Kansas. Ah yes, The political nerve center of the nation ... Kansas. That is almost like being in DC going to a private school with the kids of politically connected parents. Kennedy was in trouble. People were basically starting to ask "We see the beefcake butÂ* where is the beef"? The democrats were disillusioned and wondering if they did not just have the ticket flipped. JFK had a filibuster proof senate (65 votes) and a big majority in the house and yet they were not seeing much coming out of it. The buzz was Johnson might have taken a run at JFK in 64. To start with, he knew how sick Kennedy really was. Lots of people knew he was not right but the news covered it up ... just like FDR. Johnson was not that nice. In many ways Trump reminds me of LBJ, not so much in agenda issues but in personalities.Â* Both are/were bullies. LBJ understood government and the legislative process, and among other things, got the Civil Rights bill passed. Trump is a pig with no governmental or legislative talents, and would rescind what is left of the Civil Rights bill, if he could. Johnson has many great accomplishments and a colossal failure. Trump transferred more of the nation's wealth to the rich. All I said was that both personalities were/are those of a bully. BTW, what is your secret source of information that indicates that Trump would rescind the Civil Rights bill? Real info or more "Fake News"? And was the Republicans in Congress who passed the Civil Rights act. |
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