On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:47:03 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!


===

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

That sounds about right to me, and a reasonable precaution in my
opinion.

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I had conjectured that the bad glow plug was causing the shutdown. But it could have been the glow
plug causing the CEL which then caused the shutdown. Oh well, it's running fine now.

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 15:01:04 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/11/2018 1:47 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!


===

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

That sounds about right to me, and a reasonable precaution in my
opinion.


Makes sense to me.


And I misheard her about the bill. It was $309.80. Nice little surprise.

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:03:09 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:17:03 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:04:49 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:29:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/11/2018 11:14 AM, John H wrote:
Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!



Good news. I was worried that you were going to get totally screwed for
parts and labor.

Still a question in my curious mind though ... what was responsible for
the "low voltage to the system" ?


No idea. They have no idea either. Computer glitch, I reckon. I've never had the truck in a skid
situation, so don't know if the ABS works or not. Haven't needed it in the eight years I've had the
truck.

You can test the ABS next time you are in an icy parking lot. Just try
to lock up the brakes. Be sure here is nothing around you to hit but
my guess is you will just come to a jarring stop.
I trip my ABS in the Honda occasionally just by being on a bumpy road
in a hard turn if I tap the brakes. If a wheel leaves the ground, it
senses a significant difference in rotational speed and trips the
system. Scared me the first time. I thought a tire was coming loose or
something.

Yeah, I know how to do that. I won't be turning hard enough on bumpy roads to raise a wheel of a
2500HD off the ground though!

The easiest way is to drop the right front tire off the pavement on a
tight turn and hit the invariable hole that will be there.

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:04:26 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:47:03 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!


===

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

That sounds about right to me, and a reasonable precaution in my
opinion.

---
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I had conjectured that the bad glow plug was causing the shutdown. But it could have been the glow
plug causing the CEL which then caused the shutdown. Oh well, it's running fine now.

===

Good news, glad to hear it.

I'm sure everyone in the group, except possibly 'Airree, learned
something from this near epic thread. And politics hardly ever reared
its ugly head.

On 1/11/2018 5:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:04:26 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:47:03 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!


===

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

That sounds about right to me, and a reasonable precaution in my
opinion.

---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
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I had conjectured that the bad glow plug was causing the shutdown. But it could have been the glow
plug causing the CEL which then caused the shutdown. Oh well, it's running fine now.

===

Good news, glad to hear it.


I'm sure everyone in the group, except possibly 'Airree, learned
something from this near epic thread. And politics hardly ever reared
its ugly head.



Harry wasn't paying any attention. Being recently offended in another
thread he was in his garage, staring at his "tractor" wondering how the
service guy takes the blades off for sharpening. Every time Harry tried
turning the nut the blades and spindle just turned with it.

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:08:07 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/11/2018 5:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:04:26 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:47:03 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!


===

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

That sounds about right to me, and a reasonable precaution in my
opinion.

---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

I had conjectured that the bad glow plug was causing the shutdown. But it could have been the glow
plug causing the CEL which then caused the shutdown. Oh well, it's running fine now.

===

Good news, glad to hear it.


I'm sure everyone in the group, except possibly 'Airree, learned
something from this near epic thread. And politics hardly ever reared
its ugly head.



Harry wasn't paying any attention. Being recently offended in another
thread he was in his garage, staring at his "tractor" wondering how the
service guy takes the blades off for sharpening. Every time Harry tried
turning the nut the blades and spindle just turned with it.

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

On 1/11/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/11/2018 5:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:04:26 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:47:03 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage
to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer
was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the
glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with
new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened.
But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd
taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd
have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!


===

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

That sounds about right to me, and a reasonable precaution in my
opinion.

---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

I had conjectured that the bad glow plug was causing the shutdown.
But it could have been the glow
plug causing the CEL which then caused the shutdown. Oh well, it's
running fine now.

===

Good news, glad to hear it.


I'm sure everyone in the group, except possibly 'Airree, learned
something from this near epic thread.Â* And politics hardly ever reared
its ugly head.



Harry wasn't paying any attention.Â* Being recently offended in another
thread he was in his garage, staring at his "tractor"Â* wondering how the
service guy takes the blades off for sharpening. Every time Harry tried
turning the nut the blades and spindle just turned with it.

No, I don't pay much attention to Herring and his diarrhea here. What is
interesting is that Herring still doesn't know for sure what was wrong
(and might still be wrong) with his truck. Might be some sort of
sporadic problem.

Wrote in message:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:08:07 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/11/2018 5:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:04:26 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:47:03 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!


===

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

That sounds about right to me, and a reasonable precaution in my
opinion.

---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

I had conjectured that the bad glow plug was causing the shutdown. But it could have been the glow
plug causing the CEL which then caused the shutdown. Oh well, it's running fine now.

===

Good news, glad to hear it.


I'm sure everyone in the group, except possibly 'Airree, learned
something from this near epic thread. And politics hardly ever reared
its ugly head.



Harry wasn't paying any attention. Being recently offended in another
thread he was in his garage, staring at his "tractor" wondering how the
service guy takes the blades off for sharpening. Every time Harry tried
turning the nut the blades and spindle just turned with it.

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Fat Harry doesn't have one.

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one.

Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air.

On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one.

Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air.



I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned
for more than 40 years.