On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500.
https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html

Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it
might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I
doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted
on your boat.

I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00
less. Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck with the Honda.


I have the Yamaha. Works well. Had to clean the carb this year. To
much gelled crud.



It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator
generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas (Stabil
or similar), and letting it run for a while to distribute through the
carb before shutting it down. They allow recommend removing the
sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in the cylinder, replace the plug
(but not the spark plug wire) and pulling on the cord several times to
distribute the oil in the cylinder.

They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage.

They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has not been
treated.

On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, Â* wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500.
https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html


Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it
might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I
doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted
on your boat.

I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00
less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck with
the Honda.


I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this year.Â*Â* To
much gelled crud.



It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator
generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas (Stabil
or similar), and letting it run for a while to distribute through the
carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow recommend removing the
sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in the cylinder, replace the plug
(but not the spark plug wire) and pulling on the cord several times to
distribute the oil in the cylinder.

They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage.

They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has not been
treated.


That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of my lawn
tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that service, changes
the oil, checks out everything, including the belts, sharpens the
blades, and brings it back. We push it into the storage shed. When it is
time to use it again, I reconnect the spark plug wires.

On 1/9/2018 8:31 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, Â* wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500.
https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html


Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it
might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I
doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted
on your boat.

I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00
less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck
with the Honda.


I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this year.Â*Â* To
much gelled crud.



It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator
generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas
(Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to distribute
through the carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow recommend
removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in the cylinder,
replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and pulling on the cord
several times to distribute the oil in the cylinder.

They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage.

They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has not
been treated.


That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of my lawn
tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that service, changes
the oil, checks out everything, including the belts, sharpens the
blades, and brings it back. We push it into the storage shed. When it is
time to use it again, I reconnect the spark plug wires.


I know this may be unbelievable to you Harry but some of us have the
technical competence to perform everything your service shop guy does.
If you are unsure, all you have to do is read the owner's manual that
outlines the maintenance and service recommendations.

On 1/10/18 5:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 8:31 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, Â* wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500.
https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html


Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it
might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I
doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted
on your boat.

I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00
less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck
with the Honda.


I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this year.Â*Â* To
much gelled crud.



It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator
generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas
(Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to distribute
through the carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow recommend
removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in the cylinder,
replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and pulling on the
cord several times to distribute the oil in the cylinder.

They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage.

They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has not
been treated.


That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of my
lawn tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that service,
changes the oil, checks out everything, including the belts, sharpens
the blades, and brings it back. We push it into the storage shed. When
it is time to use it again, I reconnect the spark plug wires.


I know this may be unbelievable to you Harry but some of us have the
technical competence to perform everything your service shop guy does.
If you are unsure, all you have to do is read the owner's manual that
outlines the maintenance and service recommendations.



Why, that's just incredible! Next time the tractor needs maintenance,
I'll look at the manual first and *then* call the guy who runs the local
service shop so he can come by and pick up the machine.

On 1/10/2018 8:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/10/18 5:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 8:31 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, Â* wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500.
https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html


Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it
might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I
doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted
on your boat.

I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00
less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck
with the Honda.


I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this
year.Â*Â* To
much gelled crud.



It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator
generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas
(Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to distribute
through the carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow recommend
removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in the cylinder,
replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and pulling on the
cord several times to distribute the oil in the cylinder.

They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage.

They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has not
been treated.


That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of my
lawn tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that service,
changes the oil, checks out everything, including the belts, sharpens
the blades, and brings it back. We push it into the storage shed.
When it is time to use it again, I reconnect the spark plug wires.


I know this may be unbelievable to you Harry but some of us have the
technical competence to perform everything your service shop guy does.
If you are unsure, all you have to do is read the owner's manual that
outlines the maintenance and service recommendations.



Why, that's just incredible! Next time the tractor needs maintenance,
I'll look at the manual first and *then* call the guy who runs the local
service shop so he can come by and pick up the machine.


Pretty sad when you can't perform routine maintenance on a lawn mower.

On 1/10/18 8:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/10/2018 8:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/10/18 5:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 8:31 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, Â* wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500.
https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html


Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it
might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I
doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you
wanted
on your boat.

I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00
less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck
with the Honda.


I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this
year.Â*Â* To
much gelled crud.



It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator
generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas
(Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to distribute
through the carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow recommend
removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in the
cylinder, replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and
pulling on the cord several times to distribute the oil in the
cylinder.

They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage.

They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has not
been treated.


That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of my
lawn tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that service,
changes the oil, checks out everything, including the belts,
sharpens the blades, and brings it back. We push it into the storage
shed. When it is time to use it again, I reconnect the spark plug
wires.


I know this may be unbelievable to you Harry but some of us have the
technical competence to perform everything your service shop guy does.
If you are unsure, all you have to do is read the owner's manual that
outlines the maintenance and service recommendations.



Why, that's just incredible! Next time the tractor needs maintenance,
I'll look at the manual first and *then* call the guy who runs the
local service shop so he can come by and pick up the machine.


Pretty sad when you can't perform routine maintenance on a lawn mower.



It's a lawn tractor and removing and reinstalling the deck to sharpen
the three blades is a pain in the ass. The local guy has a small lift he
uses to get under the machine. It's not that I *can't* do the service, I
simply choose not to. Oh, and the one time in mid-grass-growing season
my tractor decided not to run, the local guy dropped off a loaner so I
could cut the grass while he had my tractor at his shop for two days.

I'm a loyal customer...you know, the kind who helped make 'Merica great.

On 1/10/2018 8:24 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/10/18 8:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/10/2018 8:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/10/18 5:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 8:31 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, Â* wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500.
https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html


Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff
but it
might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power
failure. I
doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you
wanted
on your boat.

I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for
$50.00
less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck
with the Honda.


I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this
year.Â*Â* To
much gelled crud.



It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator
generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas
(Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to distribute
through the carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow recommend
removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in the
cylinder, replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and
pulling on the cord several times to distribute the oil in the
cylinder.

They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage.

They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has
not been treated.


That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of my
lawn tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that service,
changes the oil, checks out everything, including the belts,
sharpens the blades, and brings it back. We push it into the
storage shed. When it is time to use it again, I reconnect the
spark plug wires.


I know this may be unbelievable to you Harry but some of us have the
technical competence to perform everything your service shop guy does.
If you are unsure, all you have to do is read the owner's manual
that outlines the maintenance and service recommendations.



Why, that's just incredible! Next time the tractor needs maintenance,
I'll look at the manual first and *then* call the guy who runs the
local service shop so he can come by and pick up the machine.


Pretty sad when you can't perform routine maintenance on a lawn mower.



It's a lawn tractor and removing and reinstalling the deck to sharpen
the three blades is a pain in the ass. The local guy has a small lift he
uses to get under the machine. It's not that I *can't* do the service, I
simply choose not to. Oh, and the one time in mid-grass-growing season
my tractor decided not to run, the local guy dropped off a loaner so I
could cut the grass while he had my tractor at his shop for two days.

I'm a loyal customer...you know, the kind who helped make 'Merica great.


It's not a tractor. It's a riding lawn mower that can pull a small
trailer. Taking the blades off does not require a lift. It takes a
little ingenuity to take the blades off to sharpen or replace but it's
hardly a difficult job.

A lawn mower "loaner" ? Now, that's funny!

On Wednesday, 10 January 2018 08:14:53 UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/10/2018 8:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/10/18 5:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 8:31 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, Â* wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500.
https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html


Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it
might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I
doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted
on your boat.

I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00
less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck
with the Honda.


I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this
year.Â*Â* To
much gelled crud.



It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator
generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas
(Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to distribute
through the carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow recommend
removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in the cylinder,
replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and pulling on the
cord several times to distribute the oil in the cylinder.

They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage.

They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has not
been treated.


That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of my
lawn tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that service,
changes the oil, checks out everything, including the belts, sharpens
the blades, and brings it back. We push it into the storage shed.
When it is time to use it again, I reconnect the spark plug wires.


I know this may be unbelievable to you Harry but some of us have the
technical competence to perform everything your service shop guy does.
If you are unsure, all you have to do is read the owner's manual that
outlines the maintenance and service recommendations.



Why, that's just incredible! Next time the tractor needs maintenance,
I'll look at the manual first and *then* call the guy who runs the local
service shop so he can come by and pick up the machine.


Pretty sad when you can't perform routine maintenance on a lawn mower.

Funny. The lady across the street has a John Deere riding mower. She does all her own maintenance, including sharpening the blades, etc. Her husband has somehow gotten totally out of the yardwork arena. I've never seen him lift a finger to do anything in the yard. I'll go over and blow her leaves for her, and he won't even say 'thanks'. Alcohol does play a role.

On 1/10/2018 9:30 AM, John H wrote:
On Wednesday, 10 January 2018 08:14:53 UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/10/2018 8:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/10/18 5:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 8:31 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, Â* wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500.
https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html


Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it
might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I
doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted
on your boat.

I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00
less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck
with the Honda.


I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this
year.Â*Â* To
much gelled crud.



It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator
generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas
(Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to distribute
through the carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow recommend
removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in the cylinder,
replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and pulling on the
cord several times to distribute the oil in the cylinder.

They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage.

They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has not
been treated.


That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of my
lawn tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that service,
changes the oil, checks out everything, including the belts, sharpens
the blades, and brings it back. We push it into the storage shed.
When it is time to use it again, I reconnect the spark plug wires.


I know this may be unbelievable to you Harry but some of us have the
technical competence to perform everything your service shop guy does.
If you are unsure, all you have to do is read the owner's manual that
outlines the maintenance and service recommendations.



Why, that's just incredible! Next time the tractor needs maintenance,
I'll look at the manual first and *then* call the guy who runs the local
service shop so he can come by and pick up the machine.


Pretty sad when you can't perform routine maintenance on a lawn mower.

Funny. The lady across the street has a John Deere riding mower. She does all her own maintenance, including sharpening the blades, etc. Her husband has somehow gotten totally out of the yardwork arena. I've never seen him lift a finger to do anything in the yard. I'll go over and blow her leaves for her, and he won't even say 'thanks'. Alcohol does play a role.



It usually does. Alcoholics have two brains. One is the sober one, the
other the alcoholic one.

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 06:30:59 -0800 (PST), John H
wrote:



Pretty sad when you can't perform routine maintenance on a lawn mower.

Funny. The lady across the street has a John Deere riding mower. She does all her own maintenance, including sharpening the blades, etc. Her husband has somehow gotten totally out of the yardwork arena. I've never seen him lift a finger to do anything in the yard. I'll go over and blow her leaves for her, and he won't even say 'thanks'. Alcohol does play a role.

My father in law is 94 years old and he still sharpens his own mower
blades. He drops the deck at least once a month in season, hoses it
out, sharpens the blades and lubes everything.