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Mr. Luddite[_4_] January 10th 18 01:57 PM

generators
 
On 1/10/2018 8:48 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/10/18 8:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/10/2018 8:24 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/10/18 8:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/10/2018 8:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/10/18 5:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 8:31 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4,
wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500.
https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html


Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff
but it
might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power
failure. I
doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you
wanted
on your boat.

I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for
$50.00
less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I
stuck with the Honda.


I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this
year.Â*Â* To
much gelled crud.



It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator
generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas
(Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to
distribute through the carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow
recommend removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in
the cylinder, replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and
pulling on the cord several times to distribute the oil in the
cylinder.

They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage.

They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has
not been treated.


That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of
my lawn tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that
service, changes the oil, checks out everything, including the
belts, sharpens the blades, and brings it back. We push it into
the storage shed. When it is time to use it again, I reconnect
the spark plug wires.


I know this may be unbelievable to you Harry but some of us have
the technical competence to perform everything your service shop
guy does.
If you are unsure, all you have to do is read the owner's manual
that outlines the maintenance and service recommendations.



Why, that's just incredible! Next time the tractor needs
maintenance, I'll look at the manual first and *then* call the guy
who runs the local service shop so he can come by and pick up the
machine.


Pretty sad when you can't perform routine maintenance on a lawn mower.



It's a lawn tractor and removing and reinstalling the deck to sharpen
the three blades is a pain in the ass. The local guy has a small lift
he uses to get under the machine. It's not that I *can't* do the
service, I simply choose not to. Oh, and the one time in
mid-grass-growing season my tractor decided not to run, the local guy
dropped off a loaner so I could cut the grass while he had my tractor
at his shop for two days.

I'm a loyal customer...you know, the kind who helped make 'Merica great.



It's not a tractor.Â* It's a riding lawn mower that can pull a small
trailer.Â* Taking the blades off does not require a lift.Â* It takes a
little ingenuity to take the blades off to sharpen or replace but it's
hardly a difficult job.

A lawn mower "loaner" ?Â* Now, that's funny!



I did not say it *requires* a lift. I said the local guy uses a lift to
access the underneath side of the mower deck. Try reading for content.

Why is a loaner funny? In late spring, grass grows very fast around
here. If you skip a needed mow for a few days, the grass gets a lot
taller and takes significantly more effort for mowing and cleanup. My
understanding from a neighbor down the street is that a local John Deere
dealer does the same thing if he needs your lawn tractor for more than a
day or two...he drops off a loaner.

When we travel during mowing season, I call my landscape guy to do a mow
in our absence.

You're in no position to chuckle at this, fella. After all, you have
horses. Now *that* is funny.Â* :)



I chuckle over the fact that you have a service department do routine
maintenance on a lawn mower. That's all.

BTW ... this is a riding lawn mower:

https://tinyurl.com/y7pd3wsr

This is a tractor:

https://tinyurl.com/y7r6buqs

You're welcome.



Keyser Söze January 10th 18 01:59 PM

generators
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/10/2018 8:48 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/10/18 8:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/10/2018 8:24 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/10/18 8:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/10/2018 8:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/10/18 5:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 8:31 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4,
wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500.
https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html



Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff
but it
might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power
failure. I
doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you
wanted
on your boat.

I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for
$50.00
less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I
stuck with the Honda.


I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this
year.Â*Â* To
much gelled crud.



It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator
generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas
(Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to
distribute through the carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow
recommend removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in
the cylinder, replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and
pulling on the cord several times to distribute the oil in the
cylinder.

They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage.

They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has
not been treated.


That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of
my lawn tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that
service, changes the oil, checks out everything, including the
belts, sharpens the blades, and brings it back. We push it into
the storage shed. When it is time to use it again, I reconnect
the spark plug wires.


I know this may be unbelievable to you Harry but some of us have
the technical competence to perform everything your service shop
guy does.
If you are unsure, all you have to do is read the owner's manual
that outlines the maintenance and service recommendations.



Why, that's just incredible! Next time the tractor needs
maintenance, I'll look at the manual first and *then* call the guy
who runs the local service shop so he can come by and pick up the
machine.


Pretty sad when you can't perform routine maintenance on a lawn mower.



It's a lawn tractor and removing and reinstalling the deck to sharpen
the three blades is a pain in the ass. The local guy has a small lift
he uses to get under the machine. It's not that I *can't* do the
service, I simply choose not to. Oh, and the one time in
mid-grass-growing season my tractor decided not to run, the local guy
dropped off a loaner so I could cut the grass while he had my tractor
at his shop for two days.

I'm a loyal customer...you know, the kind who helped make 'Merica great.


It's not a tractor.Â* It's a riding lawn mower that can pull a small
trailer.Â* Taking the blades off does not require a lift.Â* It takes a
little ingenuity to take the blades off to sharpen or replace but it's
hardly a difficult job.

A lawn mower "loaner" ?Â* Now, that's funny!



I did not say it *requires* a lift. I said the local guy uses a lift to
access the underneath side of the mower deck. Try reading for content.

Why is a loaner funny? In late spring, grass grows very fast around
here. If you skip a needed mow for a few days, the grass gets a lot
taller and takes significantly more effort for mowing and cleanup. My
understanding from a neighbor down the street is that a local John Deere
dealer does the same thing if he needs your lawn tractor for more than a
day or two...he drops off a loaner.

When we travel during mowing season, I call my landscape guy to do a mow
in our absence.

You're in no position to chuckle at this, fella. After all, you have
horses. Now *that* is funny.Â* :)



I chuckle over the fact that you have a service department do routine
maintenance on a lawn mower. That's all.

BTW ... this is a riding lawn mower:

https://tinyurl.com/y7pd3wsr

This is a tractor:

https://tinyurl.com/y7r6buqs

You're welcome.




You have horses...chuckle.

--
Posted with my iPhone 8+.

Mr. Luddite[_4_] January 10th 18 02:05 PM

generators
 
On 1/10/2018 8:59 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/10/2018 8:48 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/10/18 8:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/10/2018 8:24 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/10/18 8:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/10/2018 8:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/10/18 5:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 8:31 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4,
wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500.
https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html



Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff
but it
might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power
failure. I
doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you
wanted
on your boat.

I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for
$50.00
less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I
stuck with the Honda.


I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this
year.Â*Â* To
much gelled crud.



It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator
generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas
(Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to
distribute through the carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow
recommend removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in
the cylinder, replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and
pulling on the cord several times to distribute the oil in the
cylinder.

They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage.

They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has
not been treated.


That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of
my lawn tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that
service, changes the oil, checks out everything, including the
belts, sharpens the blades, and brings it back. We push it into
the storage shed. When it is time to use it again, I reconnect
the spark plug wires.


I know this may be unbelievable to you Harry but some of us have
the technical competence to perform everything your service shop
guy does.
If you are unsure, all you have to do is read the owner's manual
that outlines the maintenance and service recommendations.



Why, that's just incredible! Next time the tractor needs
maintenance, I'll look at the manual first and *then* call the guy
who runs the local service shop so he can come by and pick up the
machine.


Pretty sad when you can't perform routine maintenance on a lawn mower.



It's a lawn tractor and removing and reinstalling the deck to sharpen
the three blades is a pain in the ass. The local guy has a small lift
he uses to get under the machine. It's not that I *can't* do the
service, I simply choose not to. Oh, and the one time in
mid-grass-growing season my tractor decided not to run, the local guy
dropped off a loaner so I could cut the grass while he had my tractor
at his shop for two days.

I'm a loyal customer...you know, the kind who helped make 'Merica great.


It's not a tractor.Â* It's a riding lawn mower that can pull a small
trailer.Â* Taking the blades off does not require a lift.Â* It takes a
little ingenuity to take the blades off to sharpen or replace but it's
hardly a difficult job.

A lawn mower "loaner" ?Â* Now, that's funny!



I did not say it *requires* a lift. I said the local guy uses a lift to
access the underneath side of the mower deck. Try reading for content.

Why is a loaner funny? In late spring, grass grows very fast around
here. If you skip a needed mow for a few days, the grass gets a lot
taller and takes significantly more effort for mowing and cleanup. My
understanding from a neighbor down the street is that a local John Deere
dealer does the same thing if he needs your lawn tractor for more than a
day or two...he drops off a loaner.

When we travel during mowing season, I call my landscape guy to do a mow
in our absence.

You're in no position to chuckle at this, fella. After all, you have
horses. Now *that* is funny.Â* :)



I chuckle over the fact that you have a service department do routine
maintenance on a lawn mower. That's all.

BTW ... this is a riding lawn mower:

https://tinyurl.com/y7pd3wsr

This is a tractor:

https://tinyurl.com/y7r6buqs

You're welcome.




You have horses...chuckle.


Nope. I don't own any horses.



Tim January 10th 18 02:07 PM

generators
 
Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
I chuckle over the fact that you have a service department do routine
maintenance on a lawn mower. That's all.

BTW ... this is a riding lawn mower:

https://tinyurl.com/y7pd3wsr

This is a tractor:

https://tinyurl.com/y7r6buqs

You're welcome.

....

Not my pic but here’s my lawn mower / tractor

http://www.chatstractors.com/2012-we...right-rear.jpg

Mr. Luddite[_4_] January 10th 18 02:12 PM

generators
 
On 1/10/2018 9:07 AM, Tim wrote:
Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
I chuckle over the fact that you have a service department do routine
maintenance on a lawn mower. That's all.

BTW ... this is a riding lawn mower:

https://tinyurl.com/y7pd3wsr

This is a tractor:

https://tinyurl.com/y7r6buqs

You're welcome.

...

Not my pic but here’s my lawn mower / tractor

http://www.chatstractors.com/2012-we...right-rear.jpg



Yep ... *that's* a tractor. Nice.



John H[_2_] January 10th 18 02:13 PM

generators
 
On Tue, 09 Jan 2018 19:30:14 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jan 2018 19:17:57 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 16:04:40 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:


Finally pulled the plug and bought the Eu 2000i at lunchtime. The sales guy had made up the order and assigned it to me when it arrived yeaterday. I had been out there on Friday while stillout of power and with another 20 hrs of same facing me. I would have bought the unit with no questions then if one was available. Anyway, when we got there salesman was looking after another couple. We all ended up discussing the pros and cons of the Eu200i vs a bigger model. Then another guy gets in on the discussion. Back and forth it goes with the guy from the couple waffling as much as me. Crowd starting to gather at the desk looking for parts or whatever. One other person trying to help them. Finally I tell the salesman to cash me in on the 2000. Got up to the desk and started waffling again so I tell him to order me in an EG 2800 and I'd decide between the two. Go back and the couple guy is frantically searching the internet on his phone for advice and calling an engineer friend. I

make
the mistake of asking the wife what she thinks. She just wants to get out so says buy the 200. I tell the salesman to ring me up..then he has to do the pre-delivery inspection , adding of oil and gas and supposidly running the unit. The poor couple. the other guy and the half dozen people milling around the front counter are starting to give me dirty looks. Anyway, salesman does his thing, tells me the unit is at the door ready to go. Go up and I see the generator but no manual etc. One of the guys milling around points to a package on the counter near the cardboard box. I put the unit in it's box, toss in the manual and wires with clips? into the box and get the hell out.
I won't do that at lunch time again.


That 200 she wanted to buy must have been a little bugger, eh?


This is the engine it uses.
https://tinyurl.com/ybnn39ld

;-)


I grew up with the little Cox .049. Those things were indestructible.

John H[_2_] January 10th 18 02:14 PM

generators
 
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 19:57:06 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 16:04:40 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:01:32 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 5:47 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:


Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500.
https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html
I wish they'd had that when I bought my Honda. But I don't think it'll operate in parallel with
another like the Honda will.


I read the owner's manual for it. It *will* parallel with another like
generator.

It also has the feature that I think is probably the Honda's best
feature ... the economy switch. For light loads you can turn it on
and the generator will become very quiet and fuel efficient.

Looks like a reverse engineered copy of the Honda. I didn't notice but
it must be made in China.
Finally pulled the plug and bought the Eu 2000i at lunchtime. The sales guy had made up the order and assigned it to me when it arrived yeaterday. I had been out there on Friday while stillout of power and with another 20 hrs of same facing me. I would have bought the unit with no questions then if one was available. Anyway, when we got there salesman was looking after another couple. We all ended up discussing the pros and cons of the Eu200i vs a bigger model. Then another guy gets in on the discussion. Back and forth it goes with the guy from the couple waffling as much as me. Crowd starting to gather at the desk looking for parts or whatever. One other person trying to help them. Finally I tell the salesman to cash me in on the 2000. Got up to the desk and started waffling again so I tell him to order me in an EG 2800 and I'd decide between the two. Go back and the couple guy is frantically searching the internet on his phone for advice and calling an engineer friend. I

make
the mistake of asking the wife what she thinks. She just wants to get out so says buy the 200. I tell the salesman to ring me up..then he has to do the pre-delivery inspection , adding of oil and gas and supposidly running the unit. The poor couple. the other guy and the half dozen people milling around the front counter are starting to give me dirty looks. Anyway, salesman does his thing, tells me the unit is at the door ready to go. Go up and I see the generator but no manual etc. One of the guys milling around points to a package on the counter near the cardboard box. I put the unit in it's box, toss in the manual and wires with clips? into the box and get the hell out.
I won't do that at lunch time again.

That 200 she wanted to buy must have been a little bugger, eh?



"Supposidly"



....'in it's box'.

Mr. Luddite[_4_] January 10th 18 02:16 PM

generators
 
On 1/10/2018 9:07 AM, Tim wrote:
Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
I chuckle over the fact that you have a service department do routine
maintenance on a lawn mower. That's all.

BTW ... this is a riding lawn mower:

https://tinyurl.com/y7pd3wsr

This is a tractor:

https://tinyurl.com/y7r6buqs

You're welcome.

...

Not my pic but here’s my lawn mower / tractor

http://www.chatstractors.com/2012-we...right-rear.jpg



Two years ago with the JDeere compact tractor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiVbot4gxu4

John H[_2_] January 10th 18 02:17 PM

generators
 
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 20:17:24 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/9/18 7:54 PM, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:01:32 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite* wrote:
On 1/9/2018 5:47 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:


Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.* $500.
https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html

I wish they'd had that when I bought my Honda. But I don't think
it'll operate in parallel with
another like the Honda will.


I read the owner's manual for it.* It *will* parallel with another like
generator.

It also has the feature that I think is probably the Honda's best
feature ... the economy switch.* For light loads you can turn it on
and the generator will become very quiet and fuel efficient.

Looks like a reverse engineered copy of the Honda.* I didn't notice but
it must be made in China.
Finally pulled the plug and bought the Eu 2000i at lunchtime.* The
sales guy had made up the order and assigned it to me when it arrived
yeaterday. I had been out there on Friday while stillout of power and
with another 20 hrs of same facing me.* I would have bought the unit
with no questions then if one was available.* Anyway, when we got
there salesman was looking after another couple. We all ended up
discussing the pros and cons of the Eu200i vs a bigger model. Then
another guy gets in on the discussion. Back and forth it goes with the
guy from the couple waffling as much as me. Crowd starting to gather
at the desk looking for parts or whatever. One other person trying to
help them.* Finally I tell the salesman to cash me in on the 2000.
Got up to the desk and started waffling again so I tell him to order
me in an EG 2800 and I'd decide between the two.* Go back and the
couple guy is frantically searching the internet on his phone for
advice and calling an engineer friend. I make the mistake of asking
the wife what she thinks.* She just wants to get out so says buy the
200. I tell the salesman to ring me up..then he has to do the
pre-delivery inspection , adding of oil and gas and supposidly running
the unit. The poor couple. the other guy and the half dozen people
milling around the front counter are starting to give me dirty looks.
Anyway, salesman does his thing, tells me the unit is at the door
ready to go. Go up and I see the generator but no manual etc.* One of
the guys milling around points to a package on the counter near the
cardboard box.* I put the unit in it's box, toss in the manual and
wires with clips? into the box and get the hell out.
I won't do that at lunch time again.

"stillout"?
"supposidly"?

Poor sentence structure and capitalization, too.

What's today's excuse?


And Alex once again demonstrates he is just a little asshole.


Is someone who continuously points out spelling or grammatical errors 'just a little asshole'?

John H[_2_] January 10th 18 02:26 PM

generators
 
On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 06:07:59 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
I chuckle over the fact that you have a service department do routine
maintenance on a lawn mower. That's all.

BTW ... this is a riding lawn mower:

https://tinyurl.com/y7pd3wsr

This is a tractor:

https://tinyurl.com/y7r6buqs

You're welcome.

...

Not my pic but here’s my lawn mower / tractor

http://www.chatstractors.com/2012-we...right-rear.jpg


Surely you call your local service guy to sharpen the blades on that thing, right?


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