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Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html |
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Bill
Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html .... It might be, but I don’t think it’ll last as long. But it’s cheap enough. Might want to look on YouTube for peoples hands on reviews of it before you buy one... |
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html I wish they'd had that when I bought my Honda. But I don't think it'll operate in parallel with another like the Honda will. |
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On 1/9/2018 5:47 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html I wish they'd had that when I bought my Honda. But I don't think it'll operate in parallel with another like the Honda will. I read the owner's manual for it. It *will* parallel with another like generator. It also has the feature that I think is probably the Honda's best feature ... the economy switch. For light loads you can turn it on and the generator will become very quiet and fuel efficient. Looks like a reverse engineered copy of the Honda. I didn't notice but it must be made in China. |
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted on your boat. |
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On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:01:32 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 5:47 PM, John H wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html I wish they'd had that when I bought my Honda. But I don't think it'll operate in parallel with another like the Honda will. I read the owner's manual for it. It *will* parallel with another like generator. It also has the feature that I think is probably the Honda's best feature ... the economy switch. For light loads you can turn it on and the generator will become very quiet and fuel efficient. Looks like a reverse engineered copy of the Honda. I didn't notice but it must be made in China. Finally pulled the plug and bought the Eu 2000i at lunchtime. The sales guy had made up the order and assigned it to me when it arrived yeaterday. I had been out there on Friday while stillout of power and with another 20 hrs of same facing me. I would have bought the unit with no questions then if one was available. Anyway, when we got there salesman was looking after another couple. We all ended up discussing the pros and cons of the Eu200i vs a bigger model. Then another guy gets in on the discussion. Back and forth it goes with the guy from the couple waffling as much as me. Crowd starting to gather at the desk looking for parts or whatever. One other person trying to help them. Finally I tell the salesman to cash me in on the 2000. Got up to the desk and started waffling again so I tell him to order me in an EG 2800 and I'd decide between the two. Go back and the couple guy is frantically searching the internet on his phone for advice and calling an engineer friend. I make the mistake of asking the wife what she thinks. She just wants to get out so says buy the 200. I tell the salesman to ring me up..then he has to do the pre-delivery inspection , adding of oil and gas and supposidly running the unit. The poor couple. the other guy and the half dozen people milling around the front counter are starting to give me dirty looks. Anyway, salesman does his thing, tells me the unit is at the door ready to go. Go up and I see the generator but no manual etc. One of the guys milling around points to a package on the counter near the cardboard box. I put the unit in it's box, toss in the manual and wires with clips? into the box and get the hell out. I won't do that at lunch time again. |
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On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted on your boat. I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00 less. Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck with the Honda. |
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John H wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html I wish they'd had that when I bought my Honda. But I don't think it'll operate in parallel with another like the Honda will. Says it has a parallel kit. |
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True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted on your boat. I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00 less. Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck with the Honda. I have the Yamaha. Works well. Had to clean the carb this year. To much gelled crud. |
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:01:26 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/9/2018 5:47 PM, John H wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html I wish they'd had that when I bought my Honda. But I don't think it'll operate in parallel with another like the Honda will. I read the owner's manual for it. It *will* parallel with another like generator. It also has the feature that I think is probably the Honda's best feature ... the economy switch. For light loads you can turn it on and the generator will become very quiet and fuel efficient. Looks like a reverse engineered copy of the Honda. I didn't notice but it must be made in China. I think all of HF's stuff is Chinese. I've had good luck with what tools I've bought from them, but I'm not a contractor using the stuff continuously. |
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 16:04:40 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:01:32 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 5:47 PM, John H wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html I wish they'd had that when I bought my Honda. But I don't think it'll operate in parallel with another like the Honda will. I read the owner's manual for it. It *will* parallel with another like generator. It also has the feature that I think is probably the Honda's best feature ... the economy switch. For light loads you can turn it on and the generator will become very quiet and fuel efficient. Looks like a reverse engineered copy of the Honda. I didn't notice but it must be made in China. Finally pulled the plug and bought the Eu 2000i at lunchtime. The sales guy had made up the order and assigned it to me when it arrived yeaterday. I had been out there on Friday while stillout of power and with another 20 hrs of same facing me. I would have bought the unit with no questions then if one was available. Anyway, when we got there salesman was looking after another couple. We all ended up discussing the pros and cons of the Eu200i vs a bigger model. Then another guy gets in on the discussion. Back and forth it goes with the guy from the couple waffling as much as me. Crowd starting to gather at the desk looking for parts or whatever. One other person trying to help them. Finally I tell the salesman to cash me in on the 2000. Got up to the desk and started waffling again so I tell him to order me in an EG 2800 and I'd decide between the two. Go back and the couple guy is frantically searching the internet on his phone for advice and calling an engineer friend. I make the mistake of asking the wife what she thinks. She just wants to get out so says buy the 200. I tell the salesman to ring me up..then he has to do the pre-delivery inspection , adding of oil and gas and supposidly running the unit. The poor couple. the other guy and the half dozen people milling around the front counter are starting to give me dirty looks. Anyway, salesman does his thing, tells me the unit is at the door ready to go. Go up and I see the generator but no manual etc. One of the guys milling around points to a package on the counter near the cardboard box. I put the unit in it's box, toss in the manual and wires with clips? into the box and get the hell out. I won't do that at lunch time again. That 200 she wanted to buy must have been a little bugger, eh? |
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On Tue, 09 Jan 2018 19:17:57 -0500, John H
wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 16:04:40 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Finally pulled the plug and bought the Eu 2000i at lunchtime. The sales guy had made up the order and assigned it to me when it arrived yeaterday. I had been out there on Friday while stillout of power and with another 20 hrs of same facing me. I would have bought the unit with no questions then if one was available. Anyway, when we got there salesman was looking after another couple. We all ended up discussing the pros and cons of the Eu200i vs a bigger model. Then another guy gets in on the discussion. Back and forth it goes with the guy from the couple waffling as much as me. Crowd starting to gather at the desk looking for parts or whatever. One other person trying to help them. Finally I tell the salesman to cash me in on the 2000. Got up to the desk and started waffling again so I tell him to order me in an EG 2800 and I'd decide between the two. Go back and the couple guy is frantically searching the internet on his phone for advice and calling an engineer friend. I make the mistake of asking the wife what she thinks. She just wants to get out so says buy the 200. I tell the salesman to ring me up..then he has to do the pre-delivery inspection , adding of oil and gas and supposidly running the unit. The poor couple. the other guy and the half dozen people milling around the front counter are starting to give me dirty looks. Anyway, salesman does his thing, tells me the unit is at the door ready to go. Go up and I see the generator but no manual etc. One of the guys milling around points to a package on the counter near the cardboard box. I put the unit in it's box, toss in the manual and wires with clips? into the box and get the hell out. I won't do that at lunch time again. That 200 she wanted to buy must have been a little bugger, eh? This is the engine it uses. https://tinyurl.com/ybnn39ld ;-) |
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On 1/9/2018 7:09 PM, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted on your boat. I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00 less. Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck with the Honda. Don, several companies have introduced inverter type generators due to the popularity of the Honda inverter series. They probably are all very good compared to a conventional, noisy, generator that has to run at full RPM all the time. If it makes you feel like you made the right decision, I've had mine for over 13 years and it has gone through hell, especially when the stone cutters for our pool installation used it for a full summer, 6-7 hours a day to power the stone saws. Still has the original spark plug in it. I took it out last year and it still looks like new. Even the gap was to spec. I've changed the oil twice in 13 years. I've stored it for long periods with gas and Stabil in it. Other than last week (before the recent storm), it always starts with 3 or 4 pulls. I mentioned here that when it wouldn't start last week I warmed up the carburetor area with a hairdryer for a few minutes, pulled the cord and it fired right up. It was about 5 degrees out, so it wasn't unexpected. I think you made a good investment. |
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On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted on your boat. I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00 less. Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck with the Honda. I have the Yamaha. Works well. Had to clean the carb this year. To much gelled crud. It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas (Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to distribute through the carb before shutting it down. They allow recommend removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in the cylinder, replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and pulling on the cord several times to distribute the oil in the cylinder. They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage. They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has not been treated. |
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True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:01:32 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 5:47 PM, John H wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html I wish they'd had that when I bought my Honda. But I don't think it'll operate in parallel with another like the Honda will. I read the owner's manual for it. It *will* parallel with another like generator. It also has the feature that I think is probably the Honda's best feature ... the economy switch. For light loads you can turn it on and the generator will become very quiet and fuel efficient. Looks like a reverse engineered copy of the Honda. I didn't notice but it must be made in China. Finally pulled the plug and bought the Eu 2000i at lunchtime. The sales guy had made up the order and assigned it to me when it arrived yeaterday. I had been out there on Friday while stillout of power and with another 20 hrs of same facing me. I would have bought the unit with no questions then if one was available. Anyway, when we got there salesman was looking after another couple. We all ended up discussing the pros and cons of the Eu200i vs a bigger model. Then another guy gets in on the discussion. Back and forth it goes with the guy from the couple waffling as much as me. Crowd starting to gather at the desk looking for parts or whatever. One other person trying to help them. Finally I tell the salesman to cash me in on the 2000. Got up to the desk and started waffling again so I tell him to order me in an EG 2800 and I'd decide between the two. Go back and the couple guy is frantically searching the internet on his phone for advice and calling an engineer friend. I make the mistake of asking the wife what she thinks. She just wants to get out so says buy the 200. I tell the salesman to ring me up..then he has to do the pre-delivery inspection , adding of oil and gas and supposidly running the unit. The poor couple. the other guy and the half dozen people milling around the front counter are starting to give me dirty looks. Anyway, salesman does his thing, tells me the unit is at the door ready to go. Go up and I see the generator but no manual etc. One of the guys milling around points to a package on the counter near the cardboard box. I put the unit in it's box, toss in the manual and wires with clips? into the box and get the hell out. I won't do that at lunch time again. "stillout"? "supposidly"? Poor sentence structure and capitalization, too. What's today's excuse? |
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John H wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 16:04:40 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:01:32 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 5:47 PM, John H wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html I wish they'd had that when I bought my Honda. But I don't think it'll operate in parallel with another like the Honda will. I read the owner's manual for it. It *will* parallel with another like generator. It also has the feature that I think is probably the Honda's best feature ... the economy switch. For light loads you can turn it on and the generator will become very quiet and fuel efficient. Looks like a reverse engineered copy of the Honda. I didn't notice but it must be made in China. Finally pulled the plug and bought the Eu 2000i at lunchtime. The sales guy had made up the order and assigned it to me when it arrived yeaterday. I had been out there on Friday while stillout of power and with another 20 hrs of same facing me. I would have bought the unit with no questions then if one was available. Anyway, when we got there salesman was looking after another couple. We all ended up discussing the pros and cons of the Eu200i vs a bigger model. Then another guy gets in on the discussion. Back and forth it goes with the guy from the couple waffling as much as me. Crowd starting to gather at the desk looking for parts or whatever. One other person trying to help them. Finally I tell the salesman to cash me in on the 2000. Got up to the desk and started waffling again so I tell him to order me in an EG 2800 and I'd decide between the two. Go back and the couple guy is frantically searching the internet on his phone for advice and calling an engineer friend. I make the mistake of asking the wife what she thinks. She just wants to get out so says buy the 200. I tell the salesman to ring me up..then he has to do the pre-delivery inspection , adding of oil and gas and supposidly running the unit. The poor couple. the other guy and the half dozen people milling around the front counter are starting to give me dirty looks. Anyway, salesman does his thing, tells me the unit is at the door ready to go. Go up and I see the generator but no manual etc. One of the guys milling around points to a package on the counter near the cardboard box. I put the unit in it's box, toss in the manual and wires with clips? into the box and get the hell out. I won't do that at lunch time again. That 200 she wanted to buy must have been a little bugger, eh? "Supposidly" |
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On 1/9/18 7:54 PM, Alex wrote:
True North wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:01:32 UTC-4, Mr. LudditeÂ* wrote: On 1/9/2018 5:47 PM, John H wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html I wish they'd had that when I bought my Honda. But I don't think it'll operate in parallel with another like the Honda will. I read the owner's manual for it.Â* It *will* parallel with another like generator. It also has the feature that I think is probably the Honda's best feature ... the economy switch.Â* For light loads you can turn it on and the generator will become very quiet and fuel efficient. Looks like a reverse engineered copy of the Honda.Â* I didn't notice but it must be made in China. Finally pulled the plug and bought the Eu 2000i at lunchtime.Â* The sales guy had made up the order and assigned it to me when it arrived yeaterday. I had been out there on Friday while stillout of power and with another 20 hrs of same facing me.Â* I would have bought the unit with no questions then if one was available.Â* Anyway, when we got there salesman was looking after another couple. We all ended up discussing the pros and cons of the Eu200i vs a bigger model. Then another guy gets in on the discussion. Back and forth it goes with the guy from the couple waffling as much as me. Crowd starting to gather at the desk looking for parts or whatever. One other person trying to help them.Â* Finally I tell the salesman to cash me in on the 2000. Got up to the desk and started waffling again so I tell him to order me in an EG 2800 and I'd decide between the two.Â* Go back and the couple guy is frantically searching the internet on his phone for advice and calling an engineer friend. I make the mistake of asking the wife what she thinks.Â* She just wants to get out so says buy the 200. I tell the salesman to ring me up..then he has to do the pre-delivery inspection , adding of oil and gas and supposidly running the unit. The poor couple. the other guy and the half dozen people milling around the front counter are starting to give me dirty looks. Anyway, salesman does his thing, tells me the unit is at the door ready to go. Go up and I see the generator but no manual etc.Â* One of the guys milling around points to a package on the counter near the cardboard box.Â* I put the unit in it's box, toss in the manual and wires with clips? into the box and get the hell out. I won't do that at lunch time again. "stillout"? "supposidly"? Poor sentence structure and capitalization, too. What's today's excuse? And Alex once again demonstrates he is just a little asshole. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/9/18 7:54 PM, Alex wrote: True North wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:01:32 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 5:47 PM, John H wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html I wish they'd had that when I bought my Honda. But I don't think it'll operate in parallel with another like the Honda will. I read the owner's manual for it. It *will* parallel with another like generator. It also has the feature that I think is probably the Honda's best feature ... the economy switch. For light loads you can turn it on and the generator will become very quiet and fuel efficient. Looks like a reverse engineered copy of the Honda. I didn't notice but it must be made in China. Finally pulled the plug and bought the Eu 2000i at lunchtime. The sales guy had made up the order and assigned it to me when it arrived yeaterday. I had been out there on Friday while stillout of power and with another 20 hrs of same facing me. I would have bought the unit with no questions then if one was available. Anyway, when we got there salesman was looking after another couple. We all ended up discussing the pros and cons of the Eu200i vs a bigger model. Then another guy gets in on the discussion. Back and forth it goes with the guy from the couple waffling as much as me. Crowd starting to gather at the desk looking for parts or whatever. One other person trying to help them. Finally I tell the salesman to cash me in on the 2000. Got up to the desk and started waffling again so I tell him to order me in an EG 2800 and I'd decide between the two. Go back and the couple guy is frantically searching the internet on his phone for advice and calling an engineer friend. I make the mistake of asking the wife what she thinks. She just wants to get out so says buy the 200. I tell the salesman to ring me up..then he has to do the pre-delivery inspection , adding of oil and gas and supposidly running the unit. The poor couple. the other guy and the half dozen people milling around the front counter are starting to give me dirty looks. Anyway, salesman does his thing, tells me the unit is at the door ready to go. Go up and I see the generator but no manual etc. One of the guys milling around points to a package on the counter near the cardboard box. I put the unit in it's box, toss in the manual and wires with clips? into the box and get the hell out. I won't do that at lunch time again. "stillout"? "supposidly"? Poor sentence structure and capitalization, too. What's today's excuse? And Alex once again demonstrates he is just a little asshole. Didn't you post the same thing every time Don pointed out typos? |
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On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, Â* wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted on your boat. I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00 less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck with the Honda. I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this year.Â*Â* To much gelled crud. It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas (Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to distribute through the carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow recommend removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in the cylinder, replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and pulling on the cord several times to distribute the oil in the cylinder. They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage. They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has not been treated. That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of my lawn tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that service, changes the oil, checks out everything, including the belts, sharpens the blades, and brings it back. We push it into the storage shed. When it is time to use it again, I reconnect the spark plug wires. |
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On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:34:00 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 7:09 PM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted on your boat. I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00 less. Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck with the Honda. Don, several companies have introduced inverter type generators due to the popularity of the Honda inverter series. They probably are all very good compared to a conventional, noisy, generator that has to run at full RPM all the time. If it makes you feel like you made the right decision, I've had mine for over 13 years and it has gone through hell, especially when the stone cutters for our pool installation used it for a full summer, 6-7 hours a day to power the stone saws. Still has the original spark plug in it. I took it out last year and it still looks like new. Even the gap was to spec. I've changed the oil twice in 13 years. I've stored it for long periods with gas and Stabil in it. Other than last week (before the recent storm), it always starts with 3 or 4 pulls. I mentioned here that when it wouldn't start last week I warmed up the carburetor area with a hairdryer for a few minutes, pulled the cord and it fired right up. It was about 5 degrees out, so it wasn't unexpected. I think you made a good investment. Thanks for that. All in including taxes etc it came to a whopping $1660.00 CDN. I know it's not suitable for heating the house but I'd need an awfully big generator to do that. May think about a stove insert for our fireplace. Then I'd only need minimal power from the generator to run the small fans that help circulate heat. I opted out of the EG2800 because with the 2.5? Imp gallons of gas aboard, that thing would weigh about 100 lbs. A bit much to take camping. My 2000i with it's .95? Imp gallons can be carried with one hand...as long as it's not too far. |
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 19:33:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 1/9/2018 7:09 PM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted on your boat. I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00 less. Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck with the Honda. Don, several companies have introduced inverter type generators due to the popularity of the Honda inverter series. They probably are all very good compared to a conventional, noisy, generator that has to run at full RPM all the time. If it makes you feel like you made the right decision, I've had mine for over 13 years and it has gone through hell, especially when the stone cutters for our pool installation used it for a full summer, 6-7 hours a day to power the stone saws. Still has the original spark plug in it. I took it out last year and it still looks like new. Even the gap was to spec. I've changed the oil twice in 13 years. I've stored it for long periods with gas and Stabil in it. Other than last week (before the recent storm), it always starts with 3 or 4 pulls. I mentioned here that when it wouldn't start last week I warmed up the carburetor area with a hairdryer for a few minutes, pulled the cord and it fired right up. It was about 5 degrees out, so it wasn't unexpected. I think you made a good investment. The only thing I would question is not changing the oil more often and this is old "don't fix it if it ain't broke" me. |
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On 1/9/2018 8:31 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, Â* wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted on your boat. I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00 less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck with the Honda. I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this year.Â*Â* To much gelled crud. It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas (Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to distribute through the carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow recommend removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in the cylinder, replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and pulling on the cord several times to distribute the oil in the cylinder. They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage. They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has not been treated. That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of my lawn tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that service, changes the oil, checks out everything, including the belts, sharpens the blades, and brings it back. We push it into the storage shed. When it is time to use it again, I reconnect the spark plug wires. I know this may be unbelievable to you Harry but some of us have the technical competence to perform everything your service shop guy does. If you are unsure, all you have to do is read the owner's manual that outlines the maintenance and service recommendations. |
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On 1/10/18 5:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2018 8:31 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, Â* wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted on your boat. I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00 less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck with the Honda. I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this year.Â*Â* To much gelled crud. It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas (Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to distribute through the carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow recommend removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in the cylinder, replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and pulling on the cord several times to distribute the oil in the cylinder. They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage. They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has not been treated. That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of my lawn tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that service, changes the oil, checks out everything, including the belts, sharpens the blades, and brings it back. We push it into the storage shed. When it is time to use it again, I reconnect the spark plug wires. I know this may be unbelievable to you Harry but some of us have the technical competence to perform everything your service shop guy does. If you are unsure, all you have to do is read the owner's manual that outlines the maintenance and service recommendations. Why, that's just incredible! Next time the tractor needs maintenance, I'll look at the manual first and *then* call the guy who runs the local service shop so he can come by and pick up the machine. |
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On 1/10/2018 8:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/10/18 5:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 8:31 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, Â* wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted on your boat. I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00 less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck with the Honda. I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this year.Â*Â* To much gelled crud. It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas (Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to distribute through the carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow recommend removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in the cylinder, replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and pulling on the cord several times to distribute the oil in the cylinder. They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage. They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has not been treated. That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of my lawn tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that service, changes the oil, checks out everything, including the belts, sharpens the blades, and brings it back. We push it into the storage shed. When it is time to use it again, I reconnect the spark plug wires. I know this may be unbelievable to you Harry but some of us have the technical competence to perform everything your service shop guy does. If you are unsure, all you have to do is read the owner's manual that outlines the maintenance and service recommendations. Why, that's just incredible! Next time the tractor needs maintenance, I'll look at the manual first and *then* call the guy who runs the local service shop so he can come by and pick up the machine. Pretty sad when you can't perform routine maintenance on a lawn mower. |
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On 1/10/18 8:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/10/2018 8:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/10/18 5:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 8:31 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, Â* wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted on your boat. I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00 less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck with the Honda. I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this year.Â*Â* To much gelled crud. It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas (Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to distribute through the carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow recommend removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in the cylinder, replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and pulling on the cord several times to distribute the oil in the cylinder. They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage. They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has not been treated. That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of my lawn tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that service, changes the oil, checks out everything, including the belts, sharpens the blades, and brings it back. We push it into the storage shed. When it is time to use it again, I reconnect the spark plug wires. I know this may be unbelievable to you Harry but some of us have the technical competence to perform everything your service shop guy does. If you are unsure, all you have to do is read the owner's manual that outlines the maintenance and service recommendations. Why, that's just incredible! Next time the tractor needs maintenance, I'll look at the manual first and *then* call the guy who runs the local service shop so he can come by and pick up the machine. Pretty sad when you can't perform routine maintenance on a lawn mower. It's a lawn tractor and removing and reinstalling the deck to sharpen the three blades is a pain in the ass. The local guy has a small lift he uses to get under the machine. It's not that I *can't* do the service, I simply choose not to. Oh, and the one time in mid-grass-growing season my tractor decided not to run, the local guy dropped off a loaner so I could cut the grass while he had my tractor at his shop for two days. I'm a loyal customer...you know, the kind who helped make 'Merica great. |
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On 1/9/18 7:14 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted on your boat. I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00 less. Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck with the Honda. I have the Yamaha. Works well. Had to clean the carb this year. To much gelled crud. A local boat dealer who sells Yamaha outboards also sells the portable Yamaha generators. By the numbers I see around, I suspect he sells a boatload of them. I doubt there is any significant qualitative difference between the Honda and Yamaha portable generators. |
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On 1/10/2018 8:24 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/10/18 8:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/10/2018 8:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/10/18 5:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 8:31 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, Â* wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted on your boat. I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00 less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck with the Honda. I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this year.Â*Â* To much gelled crud. It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas (Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to distribute through the carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow recommend removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in the cylinder, replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and pulling on the cord several times to distribute the oil in the cylinder. They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage. They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has not been treated. That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of my lawn tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that service, changes the oil, checks out everything, including the belts, sharpens the blades, and brings it back. We push it into the storage shed. When it is time to use it again, I reconnect the spark plug wires. I know this may be unbelievable to you Harry but some of us have the technical competence to perform everything your service shop guy does. If you are unsure, all you have to do is read the owner's manual that outlines the maintenance and service recommendations. Why, that's just incredible! Next time the tractor needs maintenance, I'll look at the manual first and *then* call the guy who runs the local service shop so he can come by and pick up the machine. Pretty sad when you can't perform routine maintenance on a lawn mower. It's a lawn tractor and removing and reinstalling the deck to sharpen the three blades is a pain in the ass. The local guy has a small lift he uses to get under the machine. It's not that I *can't* do the service, I simply choose not to. Oh, and the one time in mid-grass-growing season my tractor decided not to run, the local guy dropped off a loaner so I could cut the grass while he had my tractor at his shop for two days. I'm a loyal customer...you know, the kind who helped make 'Merica great. It's not a tractor. It's a riding lawn mower that can pull a small trailer. Taking the blades off does not require a lift. It takes a little ingenuity to take the blades off to sharpen or replace but it's hardly a difficult job. A lawn mower "loaner" ? Now, that's funny! |
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On 1/10/2018 8:26 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/9/18 7:14 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, Â* wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted on your boat. I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00 less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck with the Honda. I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this year.Â*Â* To much gelled crud. A local boat dealer who sells Yamaha outboards also sells the portable Yamaha generators. By the numbers I see around, I suspect he sells a boatload of them. I doubt there is any significant qualitative difference between the Honda and Yamaha portable generators. Honda just came to the market first with small, portable generators and has generated (pun intended) a very good reputation. I have no doubt that those that came later ... Yamaha and others are excellent generators. Here's Honda's first portable generator, the E300 introduced in 1965 and only 300 watts. Obviously, the inverter design came later. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA2SEyHVkwc |
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On 1/10/18 8:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/10/2018 8:24 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/10/18 8:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/10/2018 8:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/10/18 5:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 8:31 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, Â* wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted on your boat. I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00 less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck with the Honda. I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this year.Â*Â* To much gelled crud. It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas (Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to distribute through the carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow recommend removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in the cylinder, replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and pulling on the cord several times to distribute the oil in the cylinder. They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage. They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has not been treated. That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of my lawn tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that service, changes the oil, checks out everything, including the belts, sharpens the blades, and brings it back. We push it into the storage shed. When it is time to use it again, I reconnect the spark plug wires. I know this may be unbelievable to you Harry but some of us have the technical competence to perform everything your service shop guy does. If you are unsure, all you have to do is read the owner's manual that outlines the maintenance and service recommendations. Why, that's just incredible! Next time the tractor needs maintenance, I'll look at the manual first and *then* call the guy who runs the local service shop so he can come by and pick up the machine. Pretty sad when you can't perform routine maintenance on a lawn mower. It's a lawn tractor and removing and reinstalling the deck to sharpen the three blades is a pain in the ass. The local guy has a small lift he uses to get under the machine. It's not that I *can't* do the service, I simply choose not to. Oh, and the one time in mid-grass-growing season my tractor decided not to run, the local guy dropped off a loaner so I could cut the grass while he had my tractor at his shop for two days. I'm a loyal customer...you know, the kind who helped make 'Merica great. It's not a tractor.Â* It's a riding lawn mower that can pull a small trailer.Â* Taking the blades off does not require a lift.Â* It takes a little ingenuity to take the blades off to sharpen or replace but it's hardly a difficult job. A lawn mower "loaner" ?Â* Now, that's funny! I did not say it *requires* a lift. I said the local guy uses a lift to access the underneath side of the mower deck. Try reading for content. Why is a loaner funny? In late spring, grass grows very fast around here. If you skip a needed mow for a few days, the grass gets a lot taller and takes significantly more effort for mowing and cleanup. My understanding from a neighbor down the street is that a local John Deere dealer does the same thing if he needs your lawn tractor for more than a day or two...he drops off a loaner. When we travel during mowing season, I call my landscape guy to do a mow in our absence. You're in no position to chuckle at this, fella. After all, you have horses. Now *that* is funny. :) |
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On 1/10/2018 8:48 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/10/18 8:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/10/2018 8:24 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/10/18 8:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/10/2018 8:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/10/18 5:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 8:31 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted on your boat. I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00 less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck with the Honda. I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this year.Â*Â* To much gelled crud. It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas (Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to distribute through the carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow recommend removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in the cylinder, replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and pulling on the cord several times to distribute the oil in the cylinder. They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage. They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has not been treated. That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of my lawn tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that service, changes the oil, checks out everything, including the belts, sharpens the blades, and brings it back. We push it into the storage shed. When it is time to use it again, I reconnect the spark plug wires. I know this may be unbelievable to you Harry but some of us have the technical competence to perform everything your service shop guy does. If you are unsure, all you have to do is read the owner's manual that outlines the maintenance and service recommendations. Why, that's just incredible! Next time the tractor needs maintenance, I'll look at the manual first and *then* call the guy who runs the local service shop so he can come by and pick up the machine. Pretty sad when you can't perform routine maintenance on a lawn mower. It's a lawn tractor and removing and reinstalling the deck to sharpen the three blades is a pain in the ass. The local guy has a small lift he uses to get under the machine. It's not that I *can't* do the service, I simply choose not to. Oh, and the one time in mid-grass-growing season my tractor decided not to run, the local guy dropped off a loaner so I could cut the grass while he had my tractor at his shop for two days. I'm a loyal customer...you know, the kind who helped make 'Merica great. It's not a tractor.Â* It's a riding lawn mower that can pull a small trailer.Â* Taking the blades off does not require a lift.Â* It takes a little ingenuity to take the blades off to sharpen or replace but it's hardly a difficult job. A lawn mower "loaner" ?Â* Now, that's funny! I did not say it *requires* a lift. I said the local guy uses a lift to access the underneath side of the mower deck. Try reading for content. Why is a loaner funny? In late spring, grass grows very fast around here. If you skip a needed mow for a few days, the grass gets a lot taller and takes significantly more effort for mowing and cleanup. My understanding from a neighbor down the street is that a local John Deere dealer does the same thing if he needs your lawn tractor for more than a day or two...he drops off a loaner. When we travel during mowing season, I call my landscape guy to do a mow in our absence. You're in no position to chuckle at this, fella. After all, you have horses. Now *that* is funny.Â* :) I chuckle over the fact that you have a service department do routine maintenance on a lawn mower. That's all. BTW ... this is a riding lawn mower: https://tinyurl.com/y7pd3wsr This is a tractor: https://tinyurl.com/y7r6buqs You're welcome. |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/10/2018 8:48 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/10/18 8:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/10/2018 8:24 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/10/18 8:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/10/2018 8:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/10/18 5:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 8:31 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted on your boat. I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00 less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck with the Honda. I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this year.Â*Â* To much gelled crud. It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas (Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to distribute through the carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow recommend removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in the cylinder, replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and pulling on the cord several times to distribute the oil in the cylinder. They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage. They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has not been treated. That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of my lawn tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that service, changes the oil, checks out everything, including the belts, sharpens the blades, and brings it back. We push it into the storage shed. When it is time to use it again, I reconnect the spark plug wires. I know this may be unbelievable to you Harry but some of us have the technical competence to perform everything your service shop guy does. If you are unsure, all you have to do is read the owner's manual that outlines the maintenance and service recommendations. Why, that's just incredible! Next time the tractor needs maintenance, I'll look at the manual first and *then* call the guy who runs the local service shop so he can come by and pick up the machine. Pretty sad when you can't perform routine maintenance on a lawn mower. It's a lawn tractor and removing and reinstalling the deck to sharpen the three blades is a pain in the ass. The local guy has a small lift he uses to get under the machine. It's not that I *can't* do the service, I simply choose not to. Oh, and the one time in mid-grass-growing season my tractor decided not to run, the local guy dropped off a loaner so I could cut the grass while he had my tractor at his shop for two days. I'm a loyal customer...you know, the kind who helped make 'Merica great. It's not a tractor.Â* It's a riding lawn mower that can pull a small trailer.Â* Taking the blades off does not require a lift.Â* It takes a little ingenuity to take the blades off to sharpen or replace but it's hardly a difficult job. A lawn mower "loaner" ?Â* Now, that's funny! I did not say it *requires* a lift. I said the local guy uses a lift to access the underneath side of the mower deck. Try reading for content. Why is a loaner funny? In late spring, grass grows very fast around here. If you skip a needed mow for a few days, the grass gets a lot taller and takes significantly more effort for mowing and cleanup. My understanding from a neighbor down the street is that a local John Deere dealer does the same thing if he needs your lawn tractor for more than a day or two...he drops off a loaner. When we travel during mowing season, I call my landscape guy to do a mow in our absence. You're in no position to chuckle at this, fella. After all, you have horses. Now *that* is funny.Â* :) I chuckle over the fact that you have a service department do routine maintenance on a lawn mower. That's all. BTW ... this is a riding lawn mower: https://tinyurl.com/y7pd3wsr This is a tractor: https://tinyurl.com/y7r6buqs You're welcome. You have horses...chuckle. -- Posted with my iPhone 8+. |
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On 1/10/2018 8:59 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/10/2018 8:48 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/10/18 8:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/10/2018 8:24 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/10/18 8:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/10/2018 8:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/10/18 5:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 8:31 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/9/18 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 7:14 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51:52 UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.Â* $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html Like most things at Harbor Fright this is a chinese knockoff but it might be all anyone needs if it is just for a rare power failure. I doubt you would want it if you were a camper or something you wanted on your boat. I see Yamaha has a neat looking copy of the Honda EU2000i for $50.00 less.Â* Not sure if anyone deals with them around here so I stuck with the Honda. I have the Yamaha.Â*Â* Works well.Â* Had to clean the carb this year.Â*Â* To much gelled crud. It's interesting that the manual for the Harbor Freight Predator generator recommends storing it with a full tank of treated gas (Stabil or similar), and letting it run for a while to distribute through the carb before shutting it down.Â* They allow recommend removing the sparkplug, putting a tablespoon of oil in the cylinder, replace the plug (but not the spark plug wire) and pulling on the cord several times to distribute the oil in the cylinder. They also recommend running it every 3 months will in storage. They only recommend draining the gas for storage if the gas has not been treated. That's what the guy who runs the service shop that takes care of my lawn tractor does...he picks up the machine, performs that service, changes the oil, checks out everything, including the belts, sharpens the blades, and brings it back. We push it into the storage shed. When it is time to use it again, I reconnect the spark plug wires. I know this may be unbelievable to you Harry but some of us have the technical competence to perform everything your service shop guy does. If you are unsure, all you have to do is read the owner's manual that outlines the maintenance and service recommendations. Why, that's just incredible! Next time the tractor needs maintenance, I'll look at the manual first and *then* call the guy who runs the local service shop so he can come by and pick up the machine. Pretty sad when you can't perform routine maintenance on a lawn mower. It's a lawn tractor and removing and reinstalling the deck to sharpen the three blades is a pain in the ass. The local guy has a small lift he uses to get under the machine. It's not that I *can't* do the service, I simply choose not to. Oh, and the one time in mid-grass-growing season my tractor decided not to run, the local guy dropped off a loaner so I could cut the grass while he had my tractor at his shop for two days. I'm a loyal customer...you know, the kind who helped make 'Merica great. It's not a tractor.Â* It's a riding lawn mower that can pull a small trailer.Â* Taking the blades off does not require a lift.Â* It takes a little ingenuity to take the blades off to sharpen or replace but it's hardly a difficult job. A lawn mower "loaner" ?Â* Now, that's funny! I did not say it *requires* a lift. I said the local guy uses a lift to access the underneath side of the mower deck. Try reading for content. Why is a loaner funny? In late spring, grass grows very fast around here. If you skip a needed mow for a few days, the grass gets a lot taller and takes significantly more effort for mowing and cleanup. My understanding from a neighbor down the street is that a local John Deere dealer does the same thing if he needs your lawn tractor for more than a day or two...he drops off a loaner. When we travel during mowing season, I call my landscape guy to do a mow in our absence. You're in no position to chuckle at this, fella. After all, you have horses. Now *that* is funny.Â* :) I chuckle over the fact that you have a service department do routine maintenance on a lawn mower. That's all. BTW ... this is a riding lawn mower: https://tinyurl.com/y7pd3wsr This is a tractor: https://tinyurl.com/y7r6buqs You're welcome. You have horses...chuckle. Nope. I don't own any horses. |
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Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text - I chuckle over the fact that you have a service department do routine maintenance on a lawn mower. That's all. BTW ... this is a riding lawn mower: https://tinyurl.com/y7pd3wsr This is a tractor: https://tinyurl.com/y7r6buqs You're welcome. .... Not my pic but here’s my lawn mower / tractor http://www.chatstractors.com/2012-we...right-rear.jpg |
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On 1/10/2018 9:07 AM, Tim wrote:
Mr. Luddite - show quoted text - I chuckle over the fact that you have a service department do routine maintenance on a lawn mower. That's all. BTW ... this is a riding lawn mower: https://tinyurl.com/y7pd3wsr This is a tractor: https://tinyurl.com/y7r6buqs You're welcome. ... Not my pic but here’s my lawn mower / tractor http://www.chatstractors.com/2012-we...right-rear.jpg Yep ... *that's* a tractor. Nice. |
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On Tue, 09 Jan 2018 19:30:14 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jan 2018 19:17:57 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 16:04:40 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Finally pulled the plug and bought the Eu 2000i at lunchtime. The sales guy had made up the order and assigned it to me when it arrived yeaterday. I had been out there on Friday while stillout of power and with another 20 hrs of same facing me. I would have bought the unit with no questions then if one was available. Anyway, when we got there salesman was looking after another couple. We all ended up discussing the pros and cons of the Eu200i vs a bigger model. Then another guy gets in on the discussion. Back and forth it goes with the guy from the couple waffling as much as me. Crowd starting to gather at the desk looking for parts or whatever. One other person trying to help them. Finally I tell the salesman to cash me in on the 2000. Got up to the desk and started waffling again so I tell him to order me in an EG 2800 and I'd decide between the two. Go back and the couple guy is frantically searching the internet on his phone for advice and calling an engineer friend. I make the mistake of asking the wife what she thinks. She just wants to get out so says buy the 200. I tell the salesman to ring me up..then he has to do the pre-delivery inspection , adding of oil and gas and supposidly running the unit. The poor couple. the other guy and the half dozen people milling around the front counter are starting to give me dirty looks. Anyway, salesman does his thing, tells me the unit is at the door ready to go. Go up and I see the generator but no manual etc. One of the guys milling around points to a package on the counter near the cardboard box. I put the unit in it's box, toss in the manual and wires with clips? into the box and get the hell out. I won't do that at lunch time again. That 200 she wanted to buy must have been a little bugger, eh? This is the engine it uses. https://tinyurl.com/ybnn39ld ;-) I grew up with the little Cox .049. Those things were indestructible. |
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 19:57:06 -0500, Alex wrote:
John H wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 16:04:40 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:01:32 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/9/2018 5:47 PM, John H wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda. $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html I wish they'd had that when I bought my Honda. But I don't think it'll operate in parallel with another like the Honda will. I read the owner's manual for it. It *will* parallel with another like generator. It also has the feature that I think is probably the Honda's best feature ... the economy switch. For light loads you can turn it on and the generator will become very quiet and fuel efficient. Looks like a reverse engineered copy of the Honda. I didn't notice but it must be made in China. Finally pulled the plug and bought the Eu 2000i at lunchtime. The sales guy had made up the order and assigned it to me when it arrived yeaterday. I had been out there on Friday while stillout of power and with another 20 hrs of same facing me. I would have bought the unit with no questions then if one was available. Anyway, when we got there salesman was looking after another couple. We all ended up discussing the pros and cons of the Eu200i vs a bigger model. Then another guy gets in on the discussion. Back and forth it goes with the guy from the couple waffling as much as me. Crowd starting to gather at the desk looking for parts or whatever. One other person trying to help them. Finally I tell the salesman to cash me in on the 2000. Got up to the desk and started waffling again so I tell him to order me in an EG 2800 and I'd decide between the two. Go back and the couple guy is frantically searching the internet on his phone for advice and calling an engineer friend. I make the mistake of asking the wife what she thinks. She just wants to get out so says buy the 200. I tell the salesman to ring me up..then he has to do the pre-delivery inspection , adding of oil and gas and supposidly running the unit. The poor couple. the other guy and the half dozen people milling around the front counter are starting to give me dirty looks. Anyway, salesman does his thing, tells me the unit is at the door ready to go. Go up and I see the generator but no manual etc. One of the guys milling around points to a package on the counter near the cardboard box. I put the unit in it's box, toss in the manual and wires with clips? into the box and get the hell out. I won't do that at lunch time again. That 200 she wanted to buy must have been a little bugger, eh? "Supposidly" ....'in it's box'. |
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On 1/10/2018 9:07 AM, Tim wrote:
Mr. Luddite - show quoted text - I chuckle over the fact that you have a service department do routine maintenance on a lawn mower. That's all. BTW ... this is a riding lawn mower: https://tinyurl.com/y7pd3wsr This is a tractor: https://tinyurl.com/y7r6buqs You're welcome. ... Not my pic but here’s my lawn mower / tractor http://www.chatstractors.com/2012-we...right-rear.jpg Two years ago with the JDeere compact tractor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiVbot4gxu4 |
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 20:17:24 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/9/18 7:54 PM, Alex wrote: True North wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:01:32 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite* wrote: On 1/9/2018 5:47 PM, John H wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Harbor Freight has one they claim as quiet as Honda.* $500. https://www.harborfreight.com/engine...tor-62523.html I wish they'd had that when I bought my Honda. But I don't think it'll operate in parallel with another like the Honda will. I read the owner's manual for it.* It *will* parallel with another like generator. It also has the feature that I think is probably the Honda's best feature ... the economy switch.* For light loads you can turn it on and the generator will become very quiet and fuel efficient. Looks like a reverse engineered copy of the Honda.* I didn't notice but it must be made in China. Finally pulled the plug and bought the Eu 2000i at lunchtime.* The sales guy had made up the order and assigned it to me when it arrived yeaterday. I had been out there on Friday while stillout of power and with another 20 hrs of same facing me.* I would have bought the unit with no questions then if one was available.* Anyway, when we got there salesman was looking after another couple. We all ended up discussing the pros and cons of the Eu200i vs a bigger model. Then another guy gets in on the discussion. Back and forth it goes with the guy from the couple waffling as much as me. Crowd starting to gather at the desk looking for parts or whatever. One other person trying to help them.* Finally I tell the salesman to cash me in on the 2000. Got up to the desk and started waffling again so I tell him to order me in an EG 2800 and I'd decide between the two.* Go back and the couple guy is frantically searching the internet on his phone for advice and calling an engineer friend. I make the mistake of asking the wife what she thinks.* She just wants to get out so says buy the 200. I tell the salesman to ring me up..then he has to do the pre-delivery inspection , adding of oil and gas and supposidly running the unit. The poor couple. the other guy and the half dozen people milling around the front counter are starting to give me dirty looks. Anyway, salesman does his thing, tells me the unit is at the door ready to go. Go up and I see the generator but no manual etc.* One of the guys milling around points to a package on the counter near the cardboard box.* I put the unit in it's box, toss in the manual and wires with clips? into the box and get the hell out. I won't do that at lunch time again. "stillout"? "supposidly"? Poor sentence structure and capitalization, too. What's today's excuse? And Alex once again demonstrates he is just a little asshole. Is someone who continuously points out spelling or grammatical errors 'just a little asshole'? |
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 06:07:59 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
Mr. Luddite - show quoted text - I chuckle over the fact that you have a service department do routine maintenance on a lawn mower. That's all. BTW ... this is a riding lawn mower: https://tinyurl.com/y7pd3wsr This is a tractor: https://tinyurl.com/y7r6buqs You're welcome. ... Not my pic but here’s my lawn mower / tractor http://www.chatstractors.com/2012-we...right-rear.jpg Surely you call your local service guy to sharpen the blades on that thing, right? |
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