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On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 05:26:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/2/2018 9:39 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote:

A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his
own pockets!

Pushing 12F right now.


A regular heat wave. I'll take it.

Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri.
Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ...

Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight
lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill.

This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember
having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps
remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't
even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0
degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees.

Remote starter getting a workout! :-)


My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years, decided to go haywire. The truck
starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light showed up about two weeks ago, and
I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related.

That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first
starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the
emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix
enough so it stalls at idle.

If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at all. I've had an MAF sensor go
bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the problem, or at least I hope not.
Those damn sensors are not cheap.


Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote.



Don't know how John's diesel truck works but both my former Ford F-350
diesel and John Deere tractor diesel had glow plugs. I didn't have a
remote starter for either. In the truck you'd turn the ignition key to
"on" and a glow plug light would illuminate. You waited for it to go
out (only took a few seconds) and then you'd start it. On the tractor
the procedure to start in cold weather was to advance the hand throttle
control to almost full throttle, turn the key to the left for about
15-20 seconds that would heat up the glow plug and then turn to the
right to start, with your other hand on the throttle arm. As soon as it
fired, you pulled the throttle back to idle.

I don't even know if John's truck has a glow plug.


Yeah, I've got eight of the little *******s. And they're a pain in the ass to change. But, I would
think the glow plug process would be part of the remote start process when it's cold.
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On 1/3/2018 9:51 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 05:26:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/2/2018 9:39 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote:

A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his
own pockets!

Pushing 12F right now.


A regular heat wave. I'll take it.

Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri.
Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ...

Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight
lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill.

This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember
having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps
remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't
even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0
degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees.

Remote starter getting a workout! :-)


My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years, decided to go haywire. The truck
starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light showed up about two weeks ago, and
I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related.

That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first
starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the
emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix
enough so it stalls at idle.

If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at all. I've had an MAF sensor go
bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the problem, or at least I hope not.
Those damn sensors are not cheap.

Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote.



Don't know how John's diesel truck works but both my former Ford F-350
diesel and John Deere tractor diesel had glow plugs. I didn't have a
remote starter for either. In the truck you'd turn the ignition key to
"on" and a glow plug light would illuminate. You waited for it to go
out (only took a few seconds) and then you'd start it. On the tractor
the procedure to start in cold weather was to advance the hand throttle
control to almost full throttle, turn the key to the left for about
15-20 seconds that would heat up the glow plug and then turn to the
right to start, with your other hand on the throttle arm. As soon as it
fired, you pulled the throttle back to idle.

I don't even know if John's truck has a glow plug.


Yeah, I've got eight of the little *******s. And they're a pain in the ass to change. But, I would
think the glow plug process would be part of the remote start process when it's cold.


You'd think. Is there a delay from the time you push the remote to
start it until the engine actually turns over? The glow plugs need a
few seconds to heat up. Maybe your remote is designed more for using in
hot weather where you want to start the AC ahead of time.


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On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 11:28:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/3/2018 9:51 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 05:26:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/2/2018 9:39 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote:

A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his
own pockets!

Pushing 12F right now.


A regular heat wave. I'll take it.

Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri.
Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ...

Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight
lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill.

This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember
having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps
remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't
even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0
degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees.

Remote starter getting a workout! :-)


My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years, decided to go haywire. The truck
starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light showed up about two weeks ago, and
I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related.

That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first
starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the
emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix
enough so it stalls at idle.

If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at all. I've had an MAF sensor go
bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the problem, or at least I hope not.
Those damn sensors are not cheap.

Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote.



Don't know how John's diesel truck works but both my former Ford F-350
diesel and John Deere tractor diesel had glow plugs. I didn't have a
remote starter for either. In the truck you'd turn the ignition key to
"on" and a glow plug light would illuminate. You waited for it to go
out (only took a few seconds) and then you'd start it. On the tractor
the procedure to start in cold weather was to advance the hand throttle
control to almost full throttle, turn the key to the left for about
15-20 seconds that would heat up the glow plug and then turn to the
right to start, with your other hand on the throttle arm. As soon as it
fired, you pulled the throttle back to idle.

I don't even know if John's truck has a glow plug.


Yeah, I've got eight of the little *******s. And they're a pain in the ass to change. But, I would
think the glow plug process would be part of the remote start process when it's cold.


You'd think. Is there a delay from the time you push the remote to
start it until the engine actually turns over? The glow plugs need a
few seconds to heat up. Maybe your remote is designed more for using in
hot weather where you want to start the AC ahead of time.


Yup, I have to hold the start button on the remote for 7-8 seconds. That's what makes me think the
glow plugs would be part of the process. The glow plug light stays on for only a couple seconds when
I'm starting the truck from the inside.
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On 1/3/2018 2:08 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 11:28:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/3/2018 9:51 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 05:26:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/2/2018 9:39 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote:

A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his
own pockets!

Pushing 12F right now.


A regular heat wave. I'll take it.

Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri.
Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ...

Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight
lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill.

This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember
having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps
remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't
even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0
degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees.

Remote starter getting a workout! :-)


My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years, decided to go haywire. The truck
starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light showed up about two weeks ago, and
I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related.

That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first
starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the
emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix
enough so it stalls at idle.

If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at all. I've had an MAF sensor go
bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the problem, or at least I hope not.
Those damn sensors are not cheap.

Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote.



Don't know how John's diesel truck works but both my former Ford F-350
diesel and John Deere tractor diesel had glow plugs. I didn't have a
remote starter for either. In the truck you'd turn the ignition key to
"on" and a glow plug light would illuminate. You waited for it to go
out (only took a few seconds) and then you'd start it. On the tractor
the procedure to start in cold weather was to advance the hand throttle
control to almost full throttle, turn the key to the left for about
15-20 seconds that would heat up the glow plug and then turn to the
right to start, with your other hand on the throttle arm. As soon as it
fired, you pulled the throttle back to idle.

I don't even know if John's truck has a glow plug.

Yeah, I've got eight of the little *******s. And they're a pain in the ass to change. But, I would
think the glow plug process would be part of the remote start process when it's cold.


You'd think. Is there a delay from the time you push the remote to
start it until the engine actually turns over? The glow plugs need a
few seconds to heat up. Maybe your remote is designed more for using in
hot weather where you want to start the AC ahead of time.


Yup, I have to hold the start button on the remote for 7-8 seconds. That's what makes me think the
glow plugs would be part of the process. The glow plug light stays on for only a couple seconds when
I'm starting the truck from the inside.


makes sense.
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On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 11:28:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/3/2018 9:51 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 05:26:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/2/2018 9:39 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote:

A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his
own pockets!

Pushing 12F right now.


A regular heat wave. I'll take it.

Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri.
Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ...

Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight
lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill.

This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember
having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps
remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't
even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0
degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees.

Remote starter getting a workout! :-)


My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years, decided to go haywire. The truck
starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light showed up about two weeks ago, and
I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related.

That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first
starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the
emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix
enough so it stalls at idle.

If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at all. I've had an MAF sensor go
bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the problem, or at least I hope not.
Those damn sensors are not cheap.

Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote.



Don't know how John's diesel truck works but both my former Ford F-350
diesel and John Deere tractor diesel had glow plugs. I didn't have a
remote starter for either. In the truck you'd turn the ignition key to
"on" and a glow plug light would illuminate. You waited for it to go
out (only took a few seconds) and then you'd start it. On the tractor
the procedure to start in cold weather was to advance the hand throttle
control to almost full throttle, turn the key to the left for about
15-20 seconds that would heat up the glow plug and then turn to the
right to start, with your other hand on the throttle arm. As soon as it
fired, you pulled the throttle back to idle.

I don't even know if John's truck has a glow plug.


Yeah, I've got eight of the little *******s. And they're a pain in the ass to change. But, I would
think the glow plug process would be part of the remote start process when it's cold.


You'd think. Is there a delay from the time you push the remote to
start it until the engine actually turns over? The glow plugs need a
few seconds to heat up. Maybe your remote is designed more for using in
hot weather where you want to start the AC ahead of time.


If it fires at all the glow plugs did all they can do the way I
understand it but maybe the cylinders are still not hot enough to
support combustion. Try starting it normally, run it a minute or so,
turn it off, then try the remote start.


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On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 15:18:02 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 11:28:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/3/2018 9:51 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 05:26:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/2/2018 9:39 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote:

A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his
own pockets!

Pushing 12F right now.


A regular heat wave. I'll take it.

Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri.
Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ...

Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight
lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill.

This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember
having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps
remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't
even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0
degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees.

Remote starter getting a workout! :-)


My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years, decided to go haywire. The truck
starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light showed up about two weeks ago, and
I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related.

That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first
starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the
emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix
enough so it stalls at idle.

If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at all. I've had an MAF sensor go
bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the problem, or at least I hope not.
Those damn sensors are not cheap.

Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote.



Don't know how John's diesel truck works but both my former Ford F-350
diesel and John Deere tractor diesel had glow plugs. I didn't have a
remote starter for either. In the truck you'd turn the ignition key to
"on" and a glow plug light would illuminate. You waited for it to go
out (only took a few seconds) and then you'd start it. On the tractor
the procedure to start in cold weather was to advance the hand throttle
control to almost full throttle, turn the key to the left for about
15-20 seconds that would heat up the glow plug and then turn to the
right to start, with your other hand on the throttle arm. As soon as it
fired, you pulled the throttle back to idle.

I don't even know if John's truck has a glow plug.

Yeah, I've got eight of the little *******s. And they're a pain in the ass to change. But, I would
think the glow plug process would be part of the remote start process when it's cold.


You'd think. Is there a delay from the time you push the remote to
start it until the engine actually turns over? The glow plugs need a
few seconds to heat up. Maybe your remote is designed more for using in
hot weather where you want to start the AC ahead of time.


If it fires at all the glow plugs did all they can do the way I
understand it but maybe the cylinders are still not hot enough to
support combustion. Try starting it normally, run it a minute or so,
turn it off, then try the remote start.


I'll give it a try. Hang on...

Nope. Even after running for 10 minutes and being shut down...it started remotely, ran for about
three seconds and shut down.

Today I had a bunch of VA stuff to do. Tomorrow I *will* learn how to use the OBD2 reader.
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John H wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 15:18:02 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 11:28:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/3/2018 9:51 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 05:26:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/2/2018 9:39 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote:

A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually
saw a liberal with his hands in his
own pockets!

Pushing 12F right now.


A regular heat wave. I'll take it.

Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri.
Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ...

Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight
lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill.

This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember
having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps
remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't
even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0
degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees.

Remote starter getting a workout! :-)


My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years,
decided to go haywire. The truck
starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light
showed up about two weeks ago, and
I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related.

That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first
starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the
emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix
enough so it stalls at idle.

If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at
all. I've had an MAF sensor go
bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the
problem, or at least I hope not.
Those damn sensors are not cheap.

Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote.



Don't know how John's diesel truck works but both my former Ford F-350
diesel and John Deere tractor diesel had glow plugs. I didn't have a
remote starter for either. In the truck you'd turn the ignition key to
"on" and a glow plug light would illuminate. You waited for it to go
out (only took a few seconds) and then you'd start it. On the tractor
the procedure to start in cold weather was to advance the hand throttle
control to almost full throttle, turn the key to the left for about
15-20 seconds that would heat up the glow plug and then turn to the
right to start, with your other hand on the throttle arm. As soon as it
fired, you pulled the throttle back to idle.

I don't even know if John's truck has a glow plug.

Yeah, I've got eight of the little *******s. And they're a pain in the
ass to change. But, I would
think the glow plug process would be part of the remote start process when it's cold.


You'd think. Is there a delay from the time you push the remote to
start it until the engine actually turns over? The glow plugs need a
few seconds to heat up. Maybe your remote is designed more for using in
hot weather where you want to start the AC ahead of time.


If it fires at all the glow plugs did all they can do the way I
understand it but maybe the cylinders are still not hot enough to
support combustion. Try starting it normally, run it a minute or so,
turn it off, then try the remote start.


I'll give it a try. Hang on...

Nope. Even after running for 10 minutes and being shut down...it started
remotely, ran for about
three seconds and shut down.

Today I had a bunch of VA stuff to do. Tomorrow I *will* learn how to use the OBD2 reader.


Try duramaxdiesels.com and a google search.

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On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 02:27:14 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 15:18:02 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 11:28:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/3/2018 9:51 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 05:26:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/2/2018 9:39 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote:

A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually
saw a liberal with his hands in his
own pockets!

Pushing 12F right now.


A regular heat wave. I'll take it.

Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri.
Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ...

Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight
lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill.

This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember
having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps
remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't
even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0
degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees.

Remote starter getting a workout! :-)


My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years,
decided to go haywire. The truck
starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light
showed up about two weeks ago, and
I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related.

That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first
starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the
emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix
enough so it stalls at idle.

If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at
all. I've had an MAF sensor go
bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the
problem, or at least I hope not.
Those damn sensors are not cheap.

Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote.



Don't know how John's diesel truck works but both my former Ford F-350
diesel and John Deere tractor diesel had glow plugs. I didn't have a
remote starter for either. In the truck you'd turn the ignition key to
"on" and a glow plug light would illuminate. You waited for it to go
out (only took a few seconds) and then you'd start it. On the tractor
the procedure to start in cold weather was to advance the hand throttle
control to almost full throttle, turn the key to the left for about
15-20 seconds that would heat up the glow plug and then turn to the
right to start, with your other hand on the throttle arm. As soon as it
fired, you pulled the throttle back to idle.

I don't even know if John's truck has a glow plug.

Yeah, I've got eight of the little *******s. And they're a pain in the
ass to change. But, I would
think the glow plug process would be part of the remote start process when it's cold.


You'd think. Is there a delay from the time you push the remote to
start it until the engine actually turns over? The glow plugs need a
few seconds to heat up. Maybe your remote is designed more for using in
hot weather where you want to start the AC ahead of time.


If it fires at all the glow plugs did all they can do the way I
understand it but maybe the cylinders are still not hot enough to
support combustion. Try starting it normally, run it a minute or so,
turn it off, then try the remote start.


I'll give it a try. Hang on...

Nope. Even after running for 10 minutes and being shut down...it started
remotely, ran for about
three seconds and shut down.

Today I had a bunch of VA stuff to do. Tomorrow I *will* learn how to use the OBD2 reader.


Try duramaxdiesels.com and a google search.


Will do that once I get a reading from the scanner. Then I'll have a code to ask about.
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On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 17:06:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 15:18:02 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 11:28:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/3/2018 9:51 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 05:26:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/2/2018 9:39 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote:

A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his
own pockets!

Pushing 12F right now.


A regular heat wave. I'll take it.

Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri.
Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ...

Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight
lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill.

This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember
having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps
remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't
even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0
degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees.

Remote starter getting a workout! :-)


My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years, decided to go haywire. The truck
starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light showed up about two weeks ago, and
I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related.

That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first
starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the
emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix
enough so it stalls at idle.

If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at all. I've had an MAF sensor go
bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the problem, or at least I hope not.
Those damn sensors are not cheap.

Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote.



Don't know how John's diesel truck works but both my former Ford F-350
diesel and John Deere tractor diesel had glow plugs. I didn't have a
remote starter for either. In the truck you'd turn the ignition key to
"on" and a glow plug light would illuminate. You waited for it to go
out (only took a few seconds) and then you'd start it. On the tractor
the procedure to start in cold weather was to advance the hand throttle
control to almost full throttle, turn the key to the left for about
15-20 seconds that would heat up the glow plug and then turn to the
right to start, with your other hand on the throttle arm. As soon as it
fired, you pulled the throttle back to idle.

I don't even know if John's truck has a glow plug.

Yeah, I've got eight of the little *******s. And they're a pain in the ass to change. But, I would
think the glow plug process would be part of the remote start process when it's cold.


You'd think. Is there a delay from the time you push the remote to
start it until the engine actually turns over? The glow plugs need a
few seconds to heat up. Maybe your remote is designed more for using in
hot weather where you want to start the AC ahead of time.


If it fires at all the glow plugs did all they can do the way I
understand it but maybe the cylinders are still not hot enough to
support combustion. Try starting it normally, run it a minute or so,
turn it off, then try the remote start.


I'll give it a try. Hang on...

Nope. Even after running for 10 minutes and being shut down...it started remotely, ran for about
three seconds and shut down.

Today I had a bunch of VA stuff to do. Tomorrow I *will* learn how to use the OBD2 reader.


Have you searched around the internet? This may be a known problem.
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On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 21:53:47 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 17:06:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 15:18:02 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 11:28:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/3/2018 9:51 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 05:26:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/2/2018 9:39 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote:

A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his
own pockets!

Pushing 12F right now.


A regular heat wave. I'll take it.

Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri.
Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ...

Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight
lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill.

This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember
having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps
remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't
even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0
degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees.

Remote starter getting a workout! :-)


My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years, decided to go haywire. The truck
starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light showed up about two weeks ago, and
I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related.

That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first
starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the
emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix
enough so it stalls at idle.

If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at all. I've had an MAF sensor go
bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the problem, or at least I hope not.
Those damn sensors are not cheap.

Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote.



Don't know how John's diesel truck works but both my former Ford F-350
diesel and John Deere tractor diesel had glow plugs. I didn't have a
remote starter for either. In the truck you'd turn the ignition key to
"on" and a glow plug light would illuminate. You waited for it to go
out (only took a few seconds) and then you'd start it. On the tractor
the procedure to start in cold weather was to advance the hand throttle
control to almost full throttle, turn the key to the left for about
15-20 seconds that would heat up the glow plug and then turn to the
right to start, with your other hand on the throttle arm. As soon as it
fired, you pulled the throttle back to idle.

I don't even know if John's truck has a glow plug.

Yeah, I've got eight of the little *******s. And they're a pain in the ass to change. But, I would
think the glow plug process would be part of the remote start process when it's cold.


You'd think. Is there a delay from the time you push the remote to
start it until the engine actually turns over? The glow plugs need a
few seconds to heat up. Maybe your remote is designed more for using in
hot weather where you want to start the AC ahead of time.


If it fires at all the glow plugs did all they can do the way I
understand it but maybe the cylinders are still not hot enough to
support combustion. Try starting it normally, run it a minute or so,
turn it off, then try the remote start.


I'll give it a try. Hang on...

Nope. Even after running for 10 minutes and being shut down...it started remotely, ran for about
three seconds and shut down.

Today I had a bunch of VA stuff to do. Tomorrow I *will* learn how to use the OBD2 reader.


Have you searched around the internet? This may be a known problem.


Of course I've searched around. I've asked you guys. Who the hell would be more knowledgeable? I
know Harry knows the answer, but he's playing hard to get.

:)


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