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So cold!
On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 16:20:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 1/2/2018 4:07 PM, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote: A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his own pockets! Pushing 12F right now. A regular heat wave. I'll take it. Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri. Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ... Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill. This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0 degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees. Remote starter getting a workout! :-) My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years, decided to go haywire. The truck starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light showed up about two weeks ago, and I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related. That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix enough so it stalls at idle. He has a diesel. Completely different system. In fact, it may not have an O2 sensor at all. In a diesel, it gets full air and only the fuel delivery through the injectors are controlled. I did not know we were talking about diesel but I still bet there is a computer in there metering the fuel based on what it smells in the exhaust somehow. |
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#24
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So cold!
On 1/2/2018 9:39 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote: A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his own pockets! Pushing 12F right now. A regular heat wave. I'll take it. Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri. Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ... Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill. This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0 degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees. Remote starter getting a workout! :-) My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years, decided to go haywire. The truck starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light showed up about two weeks ago, and I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related. That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix enough so it stalls at idle. If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at all. I've had an MAF sensor go bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the problem, or at least I hope not. Those damn sensors are not cheap. Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote. Don't know how John's diesel truck works but both my former Ford F-350 diesel and John Deere tractor diesel had glow plugs. I didn't have a remote starter for either. In the truck you'd turn the ignition key to "on" and a glow plug light would illuminate. You waited for it to go out (only took a few seconds) and then you'd start it. On the tractor the procedure to start in cold weather was to advance the hand throttle control to almost full throttle, turn the key to the left for about 15-20 seconds that would heat up the glow plug and then turn to the right to start, with your other hand on the throttle arm. As soon as it fired, you pulled the throttle back to idle. I don't even know if John's truck has a glow plug. |
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#25
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So cold!
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/2/2018 9:39 PM, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote: A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his own pockets! Pushing 12F right now. A regular heat wave. I'll take it. Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri. Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ... Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill. This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0 degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees. Remote starter getting a workout! :-) My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years, decided to go haywire. The truck starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light showed up about two weeks ago, and I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related. That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix enough so it stalls at idle. If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at all. I've had an MAF sensor go bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the problem, or at least I hope not. Those damn sensors are not cheap. Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote. Don't know how John's diesel truck works but both my former Ford F-350 diesel and John Deere tractor diesel had glow plugs. I didn't have a remote starter for either. In the truck you'd turn the ignition key to "on" and a glow plug light would illuminate. You waited for it to go out (only took a few seconds) and then you'd start it. On the tractor the procedure to start in cold weather was to advance the hand throttle control to almost full throttle, turn the key to the left for about 15-20 seconds that would heat up the glow plug and then turn to the right to start, with your other hand on the throttle arm. As soon as it fired, you pulled the throttle back to idle. I don't even know if John's truck has a glow plug. I don’t think Herring has a glow plug.  -- Posted with my iPhone 8+. |
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So cold!
On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 3:22:57 PM UTC-6, John H wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 10:13:19 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: On Tuesday, 2 January 2018 10:46:06 UTC-4, Tim wrote: 7:31 AMJohn H A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his own pockets! Pushing 12F right now. ... Bright warm sun here but still -2. That’s the saying about our Illinois Madigans Tim, you're close to St Louis, eh? Saw a cable program 'Abandoned' the other day about how the population had dropped in the city. Also the 22 schools that have closed up and are just left to fall apart. Too bad...that big arch and skyline always made the city seem prosperous. For the past 60+ years the mayor of St. Louis has been a Democrat. It is suffering from the same pains as many of our other major cities that have been led by Democrats for the past many years. As long as the welfare keeps flowing, they'll continue to get elected and we'll see our big cities become like Detroit. Look at Ferguson... |
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#27
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So cold!
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/2/2018 9:39 PM, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote: A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his own pockets! Pushing 12F right now. A regular heat wave. I'll take it. Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri. Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ... Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill. This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0 degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees. Remote starter getting a workout! :-) My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years, decided to go haywire. The truck starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light showed up about two weeks ago, and I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related. That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix enough so it stalls at idle. If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at all. I've had an MAF sensor go bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the problem, or at least I hope not. Those damn sensors are not cheap. Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote. Don't know how John's diesel truck works but both my former Ford F-350 diesel and John Deere tractor diesel had glow plugs. I didn't have a remote starter for either. In the truck you'd turn the ignition key to "on" and a glow plug light would illuminate. You waited for it to go out (only took a few seconds) and then you'd start it. On the tractor the procedure to start in cold weather was to advance the hand throttle control to almost full throttle, turn the key to the left for about 15-20 seconds that would heat up the glow plug and then turn to the right to start, with your other hand on the throttle arm. As soon as it fired, you pulled the throttle back to idle. I don't even know if John's truck has a glow plug. Johns diesel may be jelling the diesel at those temps you people are experiencing. May need the additives. |
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#28
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So cold!
On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 21:39:19 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote: A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his own pockets! Pushing 12F right now. A regular heat wave. I'll take it. Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri. Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ... Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill. This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0 degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees. Remote starter getting a workout! :-) My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years, decided to go haywire. The truck starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light showed up about two weeks ago, and I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related. That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix enough so it stalls at idle. If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at all. I've had an MAF sensor go bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the problem, or at least I hope not. Those damn sensors are not cheap. Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote. No. Standing outside the truck. Using the remote, hit the lock, hit starter button, hold it about 7 seconds, truck starts - everthing normal so far. But within about two seconds the engine stops. |
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#29
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So cold!
On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 05:26:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/2/2018 9:39 PM, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote: A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his own pockets! Pushing 12F right now. A regular heat wave. I'll take it. Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri. Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ... Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill. This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0 degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees. Remote starter getting a workout! :-) My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years, decided to go haywire. The truck starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light showed up about two weeks ago, and I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related. That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix enough so it stalls at idle. If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at all. I've had an MAF sensor go bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the problem, or at least I hope not. Those damn sensors are not cheap. Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote. Don't know how John's diesel truck works but both my former Ford F-350 diesel and John Deere tractor diesel had glow plugs. I didn't have a remote starter for either. In the truck you'd turn the ignition key to "on" and a glow plug light would illuminate. You waited for it to go out (only took a few seconds) and then you'd start it. On the tractor the procedure to start in cold weather was to advance the hand throttle control to almost full throttle, turn the key to the left for about 15-20 seconds that would heat up the glow plug and then turn to the right to start, with your other hand on the throttle arm. As soon as it fired, you pulled the throttle back to idle. I don't even know if John's truck has a glow plug. Yeah, I've got eight of the little *******s. And they're a pain in the ass to change. But, I would think the glow plug process would be part of the remote start process when it's cold. |
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#30
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On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:24:22 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 3:22:57 PM UTC-6, John H wrote: On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 10:13:19 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: On Tuesday, 2 January 2018 10:46:06 UTC-4, Tim wrote: 7:31 AMJohn H A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his own pockets! Pushing 12F right now. ... Bright warm sun here but still -2. That’s the saying about our Illinois Madigans Tim, you're close to St Louis, eh? Saw a cable program 'Abandoned' the other day about how the population had dropped in the city. Also the 22 schools that have closed up and are just left to fall apart. Too bad...that big arch and skyline always made the city seem prosperous. For the past 60+ years the mayor of St. Louis has been a Democrat. It is suffering from the same pains as many of our other major cities that have been led by Democrats for the past many years. As long as the welfare keeps flowing, they'll continue to get elected and we'll see our big cities become like Detroit. Look at Ferguson... I went to St. Louis not too long after the incident in Ferguson to support a sales trip. While we stayed in St Louis, the client was in East St Louis.. Both areas, especially ESL, were fairly depressing and blighted. We did eat dinner one night on "The Hill", an Italian neighborhood with some good restaurants. Had lunch the next day at a small Iranian place in the artsy area of town. Very good and interesting, the owner was really nice and helped us with the menu. The place was nowhere as bad as Detroit (for example), but you could see and sort of feel the decay. |
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