On 12/13/2017 1:12 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:25:06 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/13/2017 10:52 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 05:22:13 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/13/2017 1:18 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 15:37:39 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

I put together a 1720 lb rated Harbor Freight folding trailer.
Approx 300 lbs
On it, I have a 1050 lb golf car.
Tongue weight is 108 lbs with the car as far forward as I can get it.
Some say the tongue weight should be 10 to 15 % of total. Others
say 5 to 10 %.
Let's hear your opinions on the subject.

I would give it a shot. Short trailers have the sway problem worse
than long ones in my experience tho.
The tongue weight on my pontoon is less than 100 pounds and it tows
straight as an arrow at speeds up to 80 or so.
The tongue load may be more on the road tho since it loads with the
deck down at around 8-10 degrees so I imagine that may give me down
force at speed.

How far are you towing it and at what speeds? A surface road speed
you should not have any trouble at all.



Ummmm.... Greg ... just my opinion here but I think anyone pulling a
trailer loaded with a boat of any type doing "80 or so" shouldn't be
allowed on the road regardless of how skillful they think they are.


You must not drive in Florida very often. The speed limit on the
interstate is 70 and that is how fast people go ... or a little more.



Towing a trailer with a load on it? The max speed while towing in
Florida is 65 mph.


There are no signs saying that.


Don't feel bad. In Massachusetts the max legal towing speed is 55 mph.
65 mph in FL is listed in several online sources in addition to this one:

http://www.hitchemup.com/statetowinglaws.htm

On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 13:20:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/13/2017 1:12 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:25:06 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/13/2017 10:52 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 05:22:13 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/13/2017 1:18 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 15:37:39 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

I put together a 1720 lb rated Harbor Freight folding trailer.
Approx 300 lbs
On it, I have a 1050 lb golf car.
Tongue weight is 108 lbs with the car as far forward as I can get it.
Some say the tongue weight should be 10 to 15 % of total. Others
say 5 to 10 %.
Let's hear your opinions on the subject.

I would give it a shot. Short trailers have the sway problem worse
than long ones in my experience tho.
The tongue weight on my pontoon is less than 100 pounds and it tows
straight as an arrow at speeds up to 80 or so.
The tongue load may be more on the road tho since it loads with the
deck down at around 8-10 degrees so I imagine that may give me down
force at speed.

How far are you towing it and at what speeds? A surface road speed
you should not have any trouble at all.



Ummmm.... Greg ... just my opinion here but I think anyone pulling a
trailer loaded with a boat of any type doing "80 or so" shouldn't be
allowed on the road regardless of how skillful they think they are.


You must not drive in Florida very often. The speed limit on the
interstate is 70 and that is how fast people go ... or a little more.



Towing a trailer with a load on it? The max speed while towing in
Florida is 65 mph.


There are no signs saying that.


Don't feel bad. In Massachusetts the max legal towing speed is 55 mph.
65 mph in FL is listed in several online sources in addition to this one:

http://www.hitchemup.com/statetowinglaws.htm

On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 13:20:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Towing a trailer with a load on it? The max speed while towing in
Florida is 65 mph.


There are no signs saying that.


Don't feel bad. In Massachusetts the max legal towing speed is 55 mph.
65 mph in FL is listed in several online sources in addition to this one:

http://www.hitchemup.com/statetowinglaws.htm

I am not sure I have ever seen that enforced. Would that include semi
trailers? If so it is definitely ignored. There are semis going 80
every day on I-70 and 70 on the 2 lane blacktops (with 60 MPH limits).
I also see plenty of regular trailers going over 70 on the interstate
without much attention from the cops. I also believe the counties
around me are "tags optional" since I see trailers without one a lot
and occasionally cars and trucks. When I said something to the part
time cop who worked for IBM he just laughed and said it was not
something they were told to "police". He did get a kick out of the
"tags optional" line tho and said he would start using it. He also
liked "speeder maid" to describe state troopers. Evidently there is a
bit of animosity between them and the deputies. He was an aux deputy
(but "sworn") at the Charlotte sheriff department and was the senior
officer there. (as a volunteer). None of the full time had more years
on the force. The newly elected sheriffs tend to clean house when they
take over and there was a lot of churn in Charlotte county.

On 12/13/2017 1:53 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 13:20:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Towing a trailer with a load on it? The max speed while towing in
Florida is 65 mph.


There are no signs saying that.


Don't feel bad. In Massachusetts the max legal towing speed is 55 mph.
65 mph in FL is listed in several online sources in addition to this one:

http://www.hitchemup.com/statetowinglaws.htm

I am not sure I have ever seen that enforced. Would that include semi
trailers? If so it is definitely ignored. There are semis going 80
every day on I-70 and 70 on the 2 lane blacktops (with 60 MPH limits).
I also see plenty of regular trailers going over 70 on the interstate
without much attention from the cops. I also believe the counties
around me are "tags optional" since I see trailers without one a lot
and occasionally cars and trucks. When I said something to the part
time cop who worked for IBM he just laughed and said it was not
something they were told to "police". He did get a kick out of the
"tags optional" line tho and said he would start using it. He also
liked "speeder maid" to describe state troopers. Evidently there is a
bit of animosity between them and the deputies. He was an aux deputy
(but "sworn") at the Charlotte sheriff department and was the senior
officer there. (as a volunteer). None of the full time had more years
on the force. The newly elected sheriffs tend to clean house when they
take over and there was a lot of churn in Charlotte county.


Your state DMV laws may be loosely enforced but they still *are* laws.
Florida technically requires tags and insurance on trailers as well.

When I travel down a turnpike or divided highway I am not as concerned
about big semi-trailer trucks being driven by professional drivers. I
am far more wary of the weekend warrior heading down to the Cape, towing
his boat with a Jeep Cherokee or something and doing 70-80 mph. Those
are the ones most likely to lose control and end up killing someone.

On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 14:00:22 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/13/2017 1:53 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 13:20:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Towing a trailer with a load on it? The max speed while towing in
Florida is 65 mph.


There are no signs saying that.


Don't feel bad. In Massachusetts the max legal towing speed is 55 mph.
65 mph in FL is listed in several online sources in addition to this one:

http://www.hitchemup.com/statetowinglaws.htm

I am not sure I have ever seen that enforced. Would that include semi
trailers? If so it is definitely ignored. There are semis going 80
every day on I-70 and 70 on the 2 lane blacktops (with 60 MPH limits).
I also see plenty of regular trailers going over 70 on the interstate
without much attention from the cops. I also believe the counties
around me are "tags optional" since I see trailers without one a lot
and occasionally cars and trucks. When I said something to the part
time cop who worked for IBM he just laughed and said it was not
something they were told to "police". He did get a kick out of the
"tags optional" line tho and said he would start using it. He also
liked "speeder maid" to describe state troopers. Evidently there is a
bit of animosity between them and the deputies. He was an aux deputy
(but "sworn") at the Charlotte sheriff department and was the senior
officer there. (as a volunteer). None of the full time had more years
on the force. The newly elected sheriffs tend to clean house when they
take over and there was a lot of churn in Charlotte county.


Your state DMV laws may be loosely enforced but they still *are* laws.
Florida technically requires tags and insurance on trailers as well.

Trailers are not titled, you are supposed to have a tag but there is
no insurance requirement according to my tag renewals. Same with a
boat.
Perhaps they may require insurance over a certain weight, maybe after
brakes are required but Mine is pretty light as boats and trailers go.


When I travel down a turnpike or divided highway I am not as concerned
about big semi-trailer trucks being driven by professional drivers. I
am far more wary of the weekend warrior heading down to the Cape, towing
his boat with a Jeep Cherokee or something and doing 70-80 mph. Those
are the ones most likely to lose control and end up killing someone.

Life is a terminal condition. At this point dying in a horrible car
crash may be preferable to what I see afflicting my neighbors

On 12/13/2017 3:19 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 14:00:22 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/13/2017 1:53 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 13:20:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Towing a trailer with a load on it? The max speed while towing in
Florida is 65 mph.


There are no signs saying that.


Don't feel bad. In Massachusetts the max legal towing speed is 55 mph.
65 mph in FL is listed in several online sources in addition to this one:

http://www.hitchemup.com/statetowinglaws.htm

I am not sure I have ever seen that enforced. Would that include semi
trailers? If so it is definitely ignored. There are semis going 80
every day on I-70 and 70 on the 2 lane blacktops (with 60 MPH limits).
I also see plenty of regular trailers going over 70 on the interstate
without much attention from the cops. I also believe the counties
around me are "tags optional" since I see trailers without one a lot
and occasionally cars and trucks. When I said something to the part
time cop who worked for IBM he just laughed and said it was not
something they were told to "police". He did get a kick out of the
"tags optional" line tho and said he would start using it. He also
liked "speeder maid" to describe state troopers. Evidently there is a
bit of animosity between them and the deputies. He was an aux deputy
(but "sworn") at the Charlotte sheriff department and was the senior
officer there. (as a volunteer). None of the full time had more years
on the force. The newly elected sheriffs tend to clean house when they
take over and there was a lot of churn in Charlotte county.


Your state DMV laws may be loosely enforced but they still *are* laws.
Florida technically requires tags and insurance on trailers as well.

Trailers are not titled, you are supposed to have a tag but there is
no insurance requirement according to my tag renewals. Same with a
boat.
Perhaps they may require insurance over a certain weight, maybe after
brakes are required but Mine is pretty light as boats and trailers go.


When we left Florida for the last time I had a dilemma. I had two
Harleys down there, an Ultra Classic and a Softail. My options were to
ship them, sell them or haul them. I ended up buying an enclosed
trailer made by "Iron Horse Trailers". In fact, the dealer where I
picked it up wasn't far from where you are. It was my first drive over
to the West Coast of FL via "Alligator Alley".

Anyway, it required a title and a tag. At that time Florida issued a
temporary paper tag, good for 30 days. I loaded it up and left within
that time frame, so I never applied for a permanent tag. When I got to
MA my son wanted it, so I gave it to him. Trailer was kinda cool
looking. Similar to these images:

http://www.ironhorsetrailers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/towing-a-ironhorse-trailer.jpg/


http://www.ironhorsetrailers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/wing-and-bike-trailer.jpg

I know someone who might like something like this for his golf cart car:

http://www.ironhorsetrailers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/motorhome-trailers.jpg











When I travel down a turnpike or divided highway I am not as concerned
about big semi-trailer trucks being driven by professional drivers. I
am far more wary of the weekend warrior heading down to the Cape, towing
his boat with a Jeep Cherokee or something and doing 70-80 mph. Those
are the ones most likely to lose control and end up killing someone.

Life is a terminal condition. At this point dying in a horrible car
crash may be preferable to what I see afflicting my neighbors

On 12/13/2017 5:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


Anyway, it required a title and a tag.Â* At that time Florida issued a
temporary paper tag, good for 30 days.Â* I loaded it up and left within
that time frame, so I never applied for a permanent tag.Â* When I got to
MA my son wanted it, so I gave it to him.Â* Trailer was kinda cool
looking.Â* Similar to these images:

http://www.ironhorsetrailers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/towing-a-ironhorse-trailer.jpg/



http://www.ironhorsetrailers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/wing-and-bike-trailer.jpg


I know someone who might like something like this for his golf cart car:

http://www.ironhorsetrailers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/motorhome-trailers.jpg



Whoops. First link doesn't work. Try this instead:

http://www.ironhorsetrailers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/towing-a-ironhorse-trailer.jpg

On Wednesday, 13 December 2017 18:53:37 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/13/2017 5:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


Anyway, it required a title and a tag.Â* At that time Florida issued a
temporary paper tag, good for 30 days.Â* I loaded it up and left within
that time frame, so I never applied for a permanent tag.Â* When I got to
MA my son wanted it, so I gave it to him.Â* Trailer was kinda cool
looking.Â* Similar to these images:

http://www.ironhorsetrailers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/towing-a-ironhorse-trailer.jpg/



http://www.ironhorsetrailers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/wing-and-bike-trailer.jpg


I know someone who might like something like this for his golf cart car:

http://www.ironhorsetrailers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/motorhome-trailers.jpg



Whoops. First link doesn't work. Try this instead:

http://www.ironhorsetrailers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/towing-a-ironhorse-trailer.jpg

Our trailers have to be licensed...which needs to be renewed each year at $40.00 + HST = #46.00
We also have to have then safety checked every two years. Until a few years ago it was a yearly inspection.

I tow at the sensible speed of 90km but sometimes creep up to 100km on the 100 series highways.

On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 17:53:31 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 12/13/2017 5:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


Anyway, it required a title and a tag.* At that time Florida issued a
temporary paper tag, good for 30 days.* I loaded it up and left within
that time frame, so I never applied for a permanent tag.* When I got to
MA my son wanted it, so I gave it to him.* Trailer was kinda cool
looking.* Similar to these images:

http://www.ironhorsetrailers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/towing-a-ironhorse-trailer.jpg/



http://www.ironhorsetrailers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/wing-and-bike-trailer.jpg


I know someone who might like something like this for his golf cart car:

http://www.ironhorsetrailers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/motorhome-trailers.jpg



Whoops. First link doesn't work. Try this instead:

http://www.ironhorsetrailers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/towing-a-ironhorse-trailer.jpg

Virginia's very nice. For a trailer over 4000lbs, a permanent registration is $100. Amen. No renewal
needed.

On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 17:05:26 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I know someone who might like something like this for his golf cart car:

http://www.ironhorsetrailers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/motorhome-trailers.jpg

You pretty much need a 4x8 spot for a cart and my club car fits in a
full sized F150 with the tail gate up.
I am curious about the weight Justan was talking about. I bet mine is
less than that (36v with 6 batteries). Other than the motor/transxle
itself, the rest is all aluminum angle and fiberglass.