On 6/26/17 12:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


I've decided that it is a complete waste of time to try to have a
rational, civil conversation with Harry regarding politics. He, like so
many of the progressive liberal Democrats have raised the temperature
and vitriol of any discussion about Trump that all that results is
insults and name calling. I particularly dislike his propensity to
"lump" everyone as a "Trumpster" if they don't agree with him and his
fellow progressive liberals or have anything positive to say about a
Trump initiative.

Unfortunately, this behavior become contagious and I've found myself
acting in kind with insults, low blows and name calling. I don't like
being like that, so, as they say on "Shark Tank", "I am OUT".



Actuall, what you did 99% of the time was excuse Trump's horrific
behavior, and get ****ed when I wouldn't agree with the shelter you were
giving him. Just the other day, someone in Trump's admin claimed 50,000
coal miner jobs have been restored since the Orange Menace took office.
The actual number is about 1700, and the jobs had nothing to do with
Trump. But...hey, it is a fulfilled Trump initiative, right?

On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 12:33:23 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 12:12:17 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I've decided that it is a complete waste of time to try to have a
rational, civil conversation with Harry regarding politics. He, like so
many of the progressive liberal Democrats have raised the temperature
and vitriol of any discussion about Trump that all that results is
insults and name calling. I particularly dislike his propensity to
"lump" everyone as a "Trumpster" if they don't agree with him and his
fellow progressive liberals or have anything positive to say about a
Trump initiative.

Unfortunately, this behavior become contagious and I've found myself
acting in kind with insults, low blows and name calling. I don't like
being like that, so, as they say on "Shark Tank", "I am OUT".

The strange thing to me is that Harry and BAO assume that if I am not
a raving lunatic calling for Trump's scalp, I must approve of
everything he does. I still think Gary would have been better than
Trump or Hillary. At least he shows the ability to learn and he
actually has experience running a $95B enterprise.
That makes Trump Inc look like a hot dog cart and Hillary has never
run anything except running US foreign policy into a ditch.

I felt Trump was dog poop. But, Hillary was diarrhetic dog poop.

So Trump got my vote. I think Trump's resignation would bode well for the country.

On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 12:54:18 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Just the other day, someone in Trump's admin claimed 50,000
coal miner jobs have been restored since the Orange Menace took office.
The actual number is about 1700, and the jobs had nothing to do with
Trump. But...hey, it is a fulfilled Trump initiative, right?

I am not sure about the numbers but it really depends on what you call
jobs. If you just mean the miners themselves it may be 1700 but you
also have to add all of the people in that area who the miners spend
their money with (grocery stores, banks, barbers, gas stations etc).
You also have the white collar jobs at the mining company office.
If the mining company closes, the whole town dies. In spite of the
rosy rhetoric about "clean jobs", they have largely failed to
materialize in the coal belt. I agree it would be great if
manufacturing operations opened in Appalachia but logistics makes that
pretty unlikely.

On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 12:58:29 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 12:33:23 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 12:12:17 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I've decided that it is a complete waste of time to try to have a
rational, civil conversation with Harry regarding politics. He, like so
many of the progressive liberal Democrats have raised the temperature
and vitriol of any discussion about Trump that all that results is
insults and name calling. I particularly dislike his propensity to
"lump" everyone as a "Trumpster" if they don't agree with him and his
fellow progressive liberals or have anything positive to say about a
Trump initiative.

Unfortunately, this behavior become contagious and I've found myself
acting in kind with insults, low blows and name calling. I don't like
being like that, so, as they say on "Shark Tank", "I am OUT".

The strange thing to me is that Harry and BAO assume that if I am not
a raving lunatic calling for Trump's scalp, I must approve of
everything he does. I still think Gary would have been better than
Trump or Hillary. At least he shows the ability to learn and he
actually has experience running a $95B enterprise.
That makes Trump Inc look like a hot dog cart and Hillary has never
run anything except running US foreign policy into a ditch.

I felt Trump was dog poop. But, Hillary was diarrhetic dog poop.

So Trump got my vote. I think Trump's resignation would bode well for the country.

I don't think Trump is the answer but I also know taking out a sitting
president is always worse than keeping one. The divide we have in this
country now can be traced back to Nixon and to some extent the
attempts on Clinton.

On 6/26/2017 12:33 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 12:12:17 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I've decided that it is a complete waste of time to try to have a
rational, civil conversation with Harry regarding politics. He, like so
many of the progressive liberal Democrats have raised the temperature
and vitriol of any discussion about Trump that all that results is
insults and name calling. I particularly dislike his propensity to
"lump" everyone as a "Trumpster" if they don't agree with him and his
fellow progressive liberals or have anything positive to say about a
Trump initiative.

Unfortunately, this behavior become contagious and I've found myself
acting in kind with insults, low blows and name calling. I don't like
being like that, so, as they say on "Shark Tank", "I am OUT".


The strange thing to me is that Harry and BAO assume that if I am not
a raving lunatic calling for Trump's scalp, I must approve of
everything he does. I still think Gary would have been better than
Trump or Hillary. At least he shows the ability to learn and he
actually has experience running a $95B enterprise.
That makes Trump Inc look like a hot dog cart and Hillary has never
run anything except running US foreign policy into a ditch.


Your first sentence defines the intellectual dishonesty of both of them.
I am out.



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On 6/26/2017 12:54 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/26/17 12:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


I've decided that it is a complete waste of time to try to have a
rational, civil conversation with Harry regarding politics. He, like
so many of the progressive liberal Democrats have raised the
temperature and vitriol of any discussion about Trump that all that
results is insults and name calling. I particularly dislike his
propensity to "lump" everyone as a "Trumpster" if they don't agree
with him and his fellow progressive liberals or have anything positive
to say about a Trump initiative.

Unfortunately, this behavior become contagious and I've found myself
acting in kind with insults, low blows and name calling. I don't like
being like that, so, as they say on "Shark Tank", "I am OUT".



Actuall, what you did 99% of the time was excuse Trump's horrific
behavior, and get ****ed when I wouldn't agree with the shelter you were
giving him. Just the other day, someone in Trump's admin claimed 50,000
coal miner jobs have been restored since the Orange Menace took office.
The actual number is about 1700, and the jobs had nothing to do with
Trump. But...hey, it is a fulfilled Trump initiative, right?


Harry, I'm out. You can suffer on your own from here on out.



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The strange thing to me is that Harry and BAO assume that if I am not
a raving lunatic calling for Trump's scalp, I must approve of
everything he does.

Don't know about Harry, but I've never expressed any such assumption.

On 6/26/17 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 12:54:18 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Just the other day, someone in Trump's admin claimed 50,000
coal miner jobs have been restored since the Orange Menace took office.
The actual number is about 1700, and the jobs had nothing to do with
Trump. But...hey, it is a fulfilled Trump initiative, right?

I am not sure about the numbers but it really depends on what you call
jobs. If you just mean the miners themselves it may be 1700 but you
also have to add all of the people in that area who the miners spend
their money with (grocery stores, banks, barbers, gas stations etc).
You also have the white collar jobs at the mining company office.
If the mining company closes, the whole town dies. In spite of the
rosy rhetoric about "clean jobs", they have largely failed to
materialize in the coal belt. I agree it would be great if
manufacturing operations opened in Appalachia but logistics makes that
pretty unlikely.


The claim was "coal miner jobs," not coal town jobs. Way back in the
dark ages, when I was the AP Chief of Bureau in SW West Virginia,
serving West Virginia and parts of Ohio and Kentucky, mines were
beginning to close for several reasons, including a drop in demand,
pollution, and safety.

On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 18:35:46 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 6/26/17 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 12:54:18 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Just the other day, someone in Trump's admin claimed 50,000
coal miner jobs have been restored since the Orange Menace took office.
The actual number is about 1700, and the jobs had nothing to do with
Trump. But...hey, it is a fulfilled Trump initiative, right?

I am not sure about the numbers but it really depends on what you call
jobs. If you just mean the miners themselves it may be 1700 but you
also have to add all of the people in that area who the miners spend
their money with (grocery stores, banks, barbers, gas stations etc).
You also have the white collar jobs at the mining company office.
If the mining company closes, the whole town dies. In spite of the
rosy rhetoric about "clean jobs", they have largely failed to
materialize in the coal belt. I agree it would be great if
manufacturing operations opened in Appalachia but logistics makes that
pretty unlikely.


The claim was "coal miner jobs," not coal town jobs. Way back in the
dark ages, when I was the AP Chief of Bureau in SW West Virginia,
serving West Virginia and parts of Ohio and Kentucky, mines were
beginning to close for several reasons, including a drop in demand,
pollution, and safety.

It is an example of what I was saying tho. Trump heard a number of
jobs were on the line because of coal mining and he assumed or just
implied they were all miners.
It is like the way governments sell incentives to bring a particular
industry into a town. They don't talk about direct employment, they
talk about projected total economic growth.
An example would be a sports stadium.

On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 12:54:18 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 6/26/17 12:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


I've decided that it is a complete waste of time to try to have a
rational, civil conversation with Harry regarding politics. He, like so
many of the progressive liberal Democrats have raised the temperature
and vitriol of any discussion about Trump that all that results is
insults and name calling. I particularly dislike his propensity to
"lump" everyone as a "Trumpster" if they don't agree with him and his
fellow progressive liberals or have anything positive to say about a
Trump initiative.

Unfortunately, this behavior become contagious and I've found myself
acting in kind with insults, low blows and name calling. I don't like
being like that, so, as they say on "Shark Tank", "I am OUT".



Actuall, what you did 99% of the time was excuse Trump's horrific
behavior, and get ****ed when I wouldn't agree with the shelter you were
giving him. Just the other day, someone in Trump's admin claimed 50,000
coal miner jobs have been restored since the Orange Menace took office.
The actual number is about 1700, and the jobs had nothing to do with
Trump. But...hey, it is a fulfilled Trump initiative, right?

===

No one's excusing anything. Greg has stated the case quite succinctly
I think. What you and your fellow mainstream Democrats fail to
realize is that you have lost touch with the mood of the country. And
people are tired of the hysterical rabble rousing by the liberal left.